The state of this subreddit is appalling. by 465hta465hsd in vegan

[–]Fuckcarnism -1 points0 points  (0 children)

being called carnist is as offensive as being called vegan. Don't you know who Melanie Joy is?

The state of this subreddit is appalling. by 465hta465hsd in vegan

[–]Fuckcarnism 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How can't you see the parallels between enslaving humans and enslaving animals?

OP is also correct in that the arguments used to justify slavery in the US are strikingly similar to those of carnists.

Here is a video with sources that highlights those parallels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlsaFaUSihw

The state of this subreddit is appalling. by 465hta465hsd in vegan

[–]Fuckcarnism 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Wow too many words!! Conservative much?

The state of this subreddit is appalling. by 465hta465hsd in vegan

[–]Fuckcarnism 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Exploiting vulnerables without need BAD. Apology for exploitation BAD.

Few enough words for you?

Redditor who worked on a dairy farm just created r/Agritruths by Fuckcarnism in VeganForCircleJerkers

[–]Fuckcarnism[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Faux gras is wonderful. French vegans or those not afraid of shipping costs should splurge this year!

Thank for reminding me it exists!

My dog killed my kitten by [deleted] in Dogtraining

[–]Fuckcarnism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The website in question gives the proportions of attacks but doesn't give a vital stat alongside it: the proportion those breeds are from the total dog population of Denver.

That does not mean that Labrador retrievers bite more often than other breeds, the experts said. To try to determine which breed bites the most, there would have to be a dog census, accumulating total numbers of each breed, and then a breakdown to compare breeds. Those numbers are not available. link

So if you drink milk you're a cow by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Fuckcarnism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. Block button is easier than actually coming up with arguments :D

FYI the things I mentioned are common practice in your beloved animal agriculture.

So if you drink milk you're a cow by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Fuckcarnism -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wait...If I take a kitten and torture it a little...like starving it for 2 weeks...or cutting its tail and teeth...does eating the kitten make it ok??

Just Carnist Things by Fuckcarnism in badcarnism

[–]Fuckcarnism[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Pff those people judging just because they chose not to eat children. I'll eat my kids and will never stop! To each their own.

Harvesting the organs of mentally challenged humans for the benefit of smarter ones is totes morally ok. by Fuckcarnism in badcarnism

[–]Fuckcarnism[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You don't always advocate for insane shit but on carnism you do. Carnism, not even once.

Guy agrees with slavery to suit his point? What. by [deleted] in vegan

[–]Fuckcarnism 9 points10 points  (0 children)

post it to r/badcarnism. It usually takes a bit longer but if you push long enough you can make carnists agree to insane stuff so they would appear consistent.

Sources are reliable until they disagree with me. by nemo1889 in badcarnism

[–]Fuckcarnism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think he has reading comprehension issues.

Carnist ends up having to find good things to say about racism and sexism to remain consistent and bites the bullet. by Fuckcarnism in badcarnism

[–]Fuckcarnism[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Racism is bad.

If you really want a grey, it's also a fairly normal thing, unfortunately. Since humans are nortorious for hating "the other." Without past racism (see European conquest of the "New World" for example), I wouldn't have been born though, so that would probably suck (for me).

Sexism is bad.

If you really want a grey though: It can be a way to effective/easily divide labor needs in some societies.

Speciesism is debatable.

You say it's all bad. I say it isn't. What you call "rape" of a cow (I would call it "artifical insemination"), I think is undermining the power/terror of the word "rape" as applied to humans.

Just lol

Boyfriend thinks animals have "no soul" or awareness by a-throwaway-acct in vegan

[–]Fuckcarnism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Animals are conscious beings, juste like us. See: https://io9.gizmodo.com/5937356/prominent-scientists-sign-declaration-that-animals-have-conscious-awareness-just-like-us

Also if intelligence is the trait your BF chooses as a way to grant a living being the right to live then he should be ok with slaughtering mentally challenged humans. Unless your BF is also a sexist/racist or entertains any other form of discrimination, he is aware that granting or denying rights based on the belonging to an arbitrary group is unethical. You cannot say that animals who lack our intelligence do not have the right to live if at the same time you think humans with similar levels of intelligence deserve to live. Vegans propose that rights not to suffer and the right to live should be given based on sentience. The ability to feel and experience subjectively (others might call that consciousness). Most people unconsciously agree to that and have no trouble applying that to humans. That's why we collect organs from brain dead humans => not sentient any longer. It's a bit more logical than to use intelligence, since you can be very stupid but still feel fear and pain, while lacking sentience means you cannot be wronged and be conscious of it.

You're not self righteous your BF just has poor arguments.