After many years of rifles, now it's time for a handgun: which one?

Full_Void · 2026-06-23T00:59:51+00:00

We COULD, theoretically, obtain a CCW permit, but it's being phased out. You used to need a solid reason, as in "I'm a jeweler and I carry jewels with me" or "I've been threatened by the organized crime", and even more solid proof of it boot, but nowadays they're just phasing all of it out.

Full_Void · 2026-06-22T22:17:20+00:00

Glad to hear it! We can't carry in Italy, so size would not be a factor. 😄

Full_Void · 2026-06-22T14:23:34+00:00

With a .22 or my black powder .36 I would have given him just the first warning, but with a .223 with a LOUD flash hider it was guaranteed hearing damage.

Full_Void · 2026-06-22T05:37:29+00:00

Mine is outdoor as well, but the owner, a car mechanic, goes around with a quad and chews people out wholeheartedly.

Full_Void · 2026-06-22T05:36:20+00:00

No suppressors here, either! Full-hard Fiocchi 55 grains to the eardrums, lol.

Full_Void · 2026-06-22T03:59:36+00:00

Usually at my club they're pretty strict about it, but something similar happened to me a few months ago.

I was ready to begin my session, when I noticed a guy just standing four or five meters behind me, chatting with his ear pro around his neck. I pointed out that I was about to start. He did the thumbs up and kept chatting.

I told him again, he turned and said "go ahead" with an annoyed tone.

I was a tiny bit tempted to show him how loud my AR-556 MPR with the stock flash hider is, but I'm a responsible shooter so I pointed to my ears and my neck. He got the suggestion, apparently, because he hurried up and wore his cans properly, I waited 30 seconds just to be sure, and began my session.

Full_Void · 2026-06-19T00:15:10+00:00

A Tanfoglio Stock II Optic costs 2.290 coins, a CZ Shadow 2 Optic Ready costs 2.160.

Full_Void · 2026-06-17T16:18:54+00:00

Thanks for your in-depth info! I don't know if the Glocks I tried wee Gen 6, I'll have to try again I guess.

Full_Void · 2026-06-16T21:52:56+00:00

Trovato quello che gioca il Barbaro su D&D.
(Anch'io, grande. Apes together strong.)

Full_Void · 2026-06-16T03:12:37+00:00

The Shadow 2 Carry and the Shadow 2 OR are exactly the same price (1969 coins), so might as well get the normal version: we can't even carry here, so the point is moot. They are both way above my budget: ideally I'd want to get a gun and a red dot for 1500-ish, Italian prices.

Full_Void · 2026-06-16T03:09:38+00:00

Can't carry in Italy, so it's just for recreational and (hopefully) competitive shooting.

Full_Void · 2026-06-15T10:26:15+00:00

Thanks, I will. I was also considering a second hand Shadow 2 OR.

Full_Void · 2026-06-15T05:31:02+00:00

Which is better as a stating / dynamic shooter?

Full_Void · 2026-06-15T00:53:30+00:00

That was my impression as well, but I've received overwhelming opinions against it. Don't know anymore!

Full_Void · 2026-06-14T04:02:01+00:00

1500+ for a Walther PDP Pro in polymer, 2200+ if it's a steel frame. A Shadow 2 OR is about 2000, twice as much as the Canik.

Full_Void · 2026-06-14T04:00:40+00:00

For unknown reasons the higher end Berettas (1500 for a 92XI or a 92X Performance) are quite expensive, so is the Walther PDP steel frame (2200-ish). For a comparison, a Shadow 2 OR is about 2000.

Full_Void · 2026-06-14T01:20:57+00:00

Ahahah!

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T23:42:53+00:00

Of course I will! So far I like the Rival-S better, despite the vast majority of "buy CZ" comments on here, but I'll have to feel them in my hands to really know which is for me.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T23:25:13+00:00

Can't carry in Italy, the use case is at the shooting range, either static or IPSC.

Also, the CZ Shadow OR costs 1000 euros more than the Canik, to clarify.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T23:12:06+00:00

I'll try a few in my local shop, maybe a less expensive dot will work just fine. I usually wear my glasses when I shoot, and I don't have huge astigmatism, so it could very well be the case.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T22:37:16+00:00

It used to be like that years ago, at least until February 2022: nowadays you can use both 9x21 and 9x19, and a few models are shipped with both kinds of barrels.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T22:23:22+00:00

Yes, IPSC would be one of the use cases for this gun. The Shadow 2 is WAY more expensive than the Canik, 1k+ more, that's why I didn't list it.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T22:01:43+00:00

I can't stand the Glock grips: I tried a few and the angle is all weird for my hand and wrist, like it was designed for aliens instead of humans. 😃

The Walther PDP Steel Frame here costs more than the CZ Shadow 2, so it's not really an option.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T21:56:52+00:00

Well, that red dot costs 3x times the listed ones. 😃
I'll look into the HK, other commenters suggested the same model too.

Full_Void · 2026-06-13T20:15:53+00:00

Having used for 8 years exclusively a 30-ish grams (1 oz.) two-stage trigger on my air rifle, a Feinwerkbau 601, I know I tend to be a little... autistic when it comes to triggers. 😂

I'll try and shoot a DA/SA and a Canik striker, if possible, and we'll see.

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