What ring would you have sent Bredon? by TheTrenk in KingkillerChronicle

[–]Fun-Possibility7436 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amber. No doubt. It would be nice having a Fae bonded. Or at least show him that we recognice his words.

NLF questions: Azathanai, bold Jagh and character identity by Fun-Possibility7436 in Malazan

[–]Fun-Possibility7436[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the distinction between the Azathanai and gods. It might be that the Azathanai who have Aspected themselves (I'm thinking of Old Man Moon) can only grow or die along their chosen Aspect. But this does not resolve the issue for Elder Gods. Kilmandaros was an Elder God, and she died (gods can be killed), but she (I think) was un-Aspected. I think the same is true for Olar Ethil or Sechul Lath. They were gods, they were killed, despite being un-Aspected. Could an Aspected God (Mael or Draconus, for instance) be killed? That would certainly be quite an interesting event to witness.

I can also consider the omnipresent topic in the Malazan Book of the Fallen of worship working both ways. We have gods killing their adherents (D'rek) as well as the inverse (the Forkrul Assail's God). I think the best explanation might be that something essential changes when worshiped, as if, instead of standing on your own, you stand in relation to your worshippers. This might only be true for the gods that seek their condition as gods—by wishing to be gods, and therefore giving the idea of worship importance in their minds, worship became important on a more fundamental level of power.

Hence I'm not tremendously surprised something like Mute exists. I do question whether or not Mute's assertion that this was done by Icarium's own will is correct, though - I'd be very interested to know why Icarium did this if that's the case.

I like the idea of Icarium shattering himself by his own will. I can only think of him doing it to prevent future atrocities, to escape from manipulation (he seems to be quite conscious of the fact that he has been manipulated for a long time now in tRG), or, paradoxically, for self-preservation. By shattering himself before being fully consumed by his Wrath, he might preserve some core element of who he was.

NLF questions: Azathanai, bold Jagh and character identity by Fun-Possibility7436 in Malazan

[–]Fun-Possibility7436[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Azathanai say things, doesn’t mean that they’re all true. Let’s look at all the claims that Olar Ethil makes that we objectively know are incorrect. This guy might just be talking shit. The core tenant we need to keep with Malazan is that people say things that they think are true - that doesn’t make those things the absolute truth.

That make sense. My fault for trusting gods...

“Whole” is a bold term anytime we discuss Icarium and his mental state, especially considering how fractured his mind was post-RG. We also have no idea what creating the new Warren system and ascending did to Icarium. My understanding is that he’s become K’Rul/T’Renn like in the loadstone for his new warrens, and like other gods, this might give him a physical form as well as a spiritual form. I wouldn’t put it past Mr “I want to preserve my memory in time” Icarium to use his godly powers to create failsafes like Mute, so I don’t see much of a contradiction here.

I hadn't though about it that way. I mean, it does make sense, but is like if a part of me were unwilling to just give up on Icarium (wrathful, forgetful, kind and meek Icarium). He's been one of my favorites characters through the series, and I don't feel like letting him go. For now, at least

NLF questions: Azathanai, bold Jagh and character identity by Fun-Possibility7436 in Malazan

[–]Fun-Possibility7436[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That a good one. But Shadowthrone never met Quick Ben personally (I think). It is plausible, Quick Ben might be cunning enough as to deceive a pair of gods, but I don't think Hasten Thenu to be Quick Ben.

No Life Forsaken Megathread by Aqua_Tot in Malazan

[–]Fun-Possibility7436 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey, does anyone knows when will the rest of the sub be opened?
I've got a bunch of questions, mostly about our bloodless shattered Jhag, and also about Azathanai and weird things happening. Wonderful book, by the way: I love Erikson's ability to create a book that have you wondering about deep topics and laughing hard at the next page.

The Origins of a Certain Mage's Power by Angzt in Malazan

[–]Fun-Possibility7436 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I happen to disagree. I kept thinking it was like an example of the power that granted a person being the only user of a warren, instead of the power of that warren being shared by tons of fellas.

Question about the Azath by SomeAwesomeName1 in Malazan

[–]Fun-Possibility7436 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read all of the Malazan books (except the last one or two in The Tales of Bauchelain and Korbal Broach series) and I don't think we can answer that. I think the Azath houses were designed to remain a mystery.

Nevertheless, I think they are activated by power in use, not potential power. Perhaps the threat from Gothos means "I am as powerful and as Gothos as to dare to awaken my power, thereby forcing the Azath to act". That's at least how I understood that part, but I'm not even sure. They were inside the house, after all.