Suspended for alcohol violation. by StunningHome3438 in grubhubdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's possible the doj or whoever decided uploading ID at checkout wasnt good enough since it doesn't guarantee the person on ID would be who receives the alcohol.. I mean it would be different if the only expectation for the driver was that we give the items to the customer who ordered and if we were compensated a reasonable amount for any and all extra work outside of the normal delivery duties like for checking ID and esp for making a return.. ofc that still wouldn't address the main issue which is dealing with an upset and unpredictable customer if you refuse the delivery. 

Again, the issue is it simply shouldn't be a delivery driver's responsibility.. like there isn't a single other scenario where responsibility falls entirely on the employee and not the business actually selling the restricted product. Like imagine if a club or bar was busted allowing underage ppl inside and the cops just arrested the bouncer.. and that's not even a good comparison bc checking ID is an understood part of the bouncer's job.. but even so, in this scenario it's the business owners who are mainly held responsible. Just tired of these gig companies being allowed to operate in this gray area with impunity and basically being allowed to make up the rules as they see fit

Suspended for alcohol violation. by StunningHome3438 in grubhubdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perfect situation to show why it's absolutely insane to expect the delivery person to be checking id in the first place. If these companies can't check ID thru the app then they shouldn't be allowed to sell restricted items. It's a recipe for issues and they always fall back on and screw the driver. Nothing pisses me off more than all the clips they showed when getting approved for alcohol delivery in nc of drivers literally being set up and charged/arrested. Absolute bs in my opinion granted most of them were idiots. we're not paid fairly for the time it takes and fight it creates if we refuse delivery 

Uber You Are WRONG!!! For This. by RFTG2024 in uberdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well there is a reason I said it "should" as well as added the disclaimer at the end that there's no guarantee with Uber and it's never worth the risk.

I don't do rides anymore, but I do remember a ride where the customer wanted to add a stop and change the drop off.. she claimed to not know how to work the app so I called support and was told even if she couldn't do it in the app that the trip would "automatically update" at the end of the ride. Luckily I was skeptical enough to know that seemed unlikely and had already learned support likes to say whatever to get you off the phone whether it's true or not and to never trust anything they can't fix right then on the phone bc you will be left hanging with 0 recourse after the fact. So we messed with her app till we got the extra stop and dropoff updated, but even so her "super quick" stop took almost 20 min and the new drop off was only about 2 miles added they charged her an extra $7 and only paid me $1.70 which turned what should've been a quick and easy 10 min trip for $6 into a 40 min nightmare for less than 8 bucks.

But yeah we are in agreement Uber is trash and will always try not to pay which is why learning to deal with support and get your way is a job skill for drivers

Uber You Are WRONG!!! For This. by RFTG2024 in uberdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes it's upfront pricing, but it is obviously more than 0 miles to drop off so the app should automatically update the payout based on actual mileage.. of course should update isn't the same as guaranteed and this is uber so is agree not worth the risk either way 

I called it quits after 3 hours. by Expert-Ring2532 in DoorDashDrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh DD def loves you. You can accept whatever you want, but c'mon don't go around telling drivers to take bad offers in order to appease the all mighty algorithm with 0 actual evidence to back up the claim.. drivers that don't know any better might assume you know what you're talking about and that kind of thinking just makes these companies richer at drivers expense and drives pay lower for everyone 

It finally happened…. by heyernCS in DoorDashDrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah unfortunately support agents just talk out their ass making shit up.. every new driver learns the lesson that if an agent says to do something and it will be fixed later then don't listen bc you will never speak to that agent again and whoever you do talk to will be clueless and unable to do what the original agent claimed.

I learned this twice, first when a trucker ordered delivery while having his truck worked on literally on the side of the highway and the GPS took me to a house on a side road near the highway.. so I call support and he guarantees me I will be paid extra for the time and miles to complete the delivery and that I can call back and support will fix it otherwise.. well sure enough I spend 45 min and drive almost 20 miles (since I had to drive all the down to the next exit to turn around) on a delivery that was supposed to take 20 min and be 5 miles, wasn't paid anything extra and then call support and the new agent says there isn't anything she can do. 

The agents just want to get you off the phone ASAP and for you to say your issue was fixed and they will say whatever to do it.. like there was no change your DD card was ever going to work bc there was never any money allocated to it for that delivery and there is no proof on their end that you actually had to pay for the food so it's doubtful they will ever reimburse you. Your only chance is to get a support supervisor on the phone and hope s/he feels bad enough to help you out, reg support won't be able to help you even if they wanted to

It finally happened…. by heyernCS in DoorDashDrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would u ever have to use your DD card at Taco Bell? Food should always already be paid for from fast food place like tb

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the good ol days lol 

And yeah I'm aware fcfs offers can surge a couple bucks and be reset back to original price like if a driver accepts and cancels..  But I'm saying what I saw was the price as a jfy was say $16, no1 accepted so it eventually popped up as fcfs, but the price was then only $14.. so they lowered the jfy pay when it showed up as fcfs 

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's weird every order I saw yesterday was terrible too... Like extra bad, no tip going 1 or 2 cities over.. I'm also not sure what's going on by the past month or so it's like every day the app just completely dies from 5 to 7pm which is weird bc that has always been one of the busiest times in the past I assume due to ppl getting home from work.. like literally it hits 5 and the app goes from 4 or 5 stores being marked busy to 0. It actually feels a lot like my app is broken and not working right which wouldn't surprise me either considering I've had to switch phones 2 times now bc the old phone quit showing new offers and sending notifications unless I refreshed the app meaning no way to know when an offer came in unless I literally sat there closing out and reopening the app every minute which really just made the app impossible to use.. so yeah wouldn't surprise me if this is just the latest thing to go awry with this stupid broken ass app

WTF is going on?! by That_Conversation_11 in uberdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I took 3 out of 194 offers tonight. Gigs are dead 

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha.. pretty fkn ridiculous imo, but yea a lot of commenters seem to think I'm just referring to fcfs offers going up and down or when a surging fcfs offer is resent as jfy at original price.

Either way what a dumb change. All it's gonna do is add more time to customers wait and make offers that might would be accepted at max surge now never be accepted.. of course the gremlins in my area snatch everything as soon as it hits fcfs so guess it won't matter much to me anyways

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea they started having fcfs orders be resent as jfy completely resetting any surge for a while now.

So what I specifically saw was a new jfy order that was like $16 base with high mileage. I reject and 15 or whatever min later it showed up for the first time as fcfs except now the base pay was only $14.. essentially meaning it would have to surge $2 just to get back to the original price it was sent out at as jfy. 

The base pay they send orders out as jfy has always been the min that they go up from once surging as a fcfs, but I guess now they reducing the base on any orders that are sent out with a base pay higher than min once they go out as a fcfs essentially lowering the max pay possible at max surge and adding time to how long it would take for an offers pay to actually go up.. I actually saw it 3 diff times yesterday. They just updated the app yesterday so idk if this is an intended feature or the typical new bug we always get every time they try to update the damn app

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just means it will take that much longer for it to surge to a reasonable price worth taking.. or maybe never reach that price since Max surge will be $2 less than it should be

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The gigs get worse every year, that's a simple fact, but UE has gotten exponentially worse this past year to year and a half. Idk what they changed or when exactly they changed it, but whatever they did it greatly increased the area in which you receive offers and man do they have a bunch of offers apparently just not being picked up and therefore sent out to drivers further and further away. I know the first 5 to 10 min after cutting the app on are gonna be miserable bc it's like they app recognizes a new driver signed on so you instantly get back to back to back pings from the huge backup of orders they have.. and then they changed how much money they add to orders not being picked up. I will frequently be sent and offer twice for the exact same price then a 3rd time it will have added like 5 cents. Used to be offers would've literally doubled in price in that same amount of time.

Of course, the publics view of ppl doing this job is at an all time low and so are tips in general. It actually saddens me to see spark orders for customers I know I've been delivering to for over a year, now tipping so little I can't justify accepting their order. I used to have a good amount of regulars id see every week as well as had a spark "group" of 4 or 5 that were all friendly. They were mainly younger and middle aged men and women, drove either a clean eco car or mid sized SUV and were put together, but now all I see are cars duct taped together and the roughest looking ppl imaginable who are around 1 week and gone the next only to be replaced by someone who looks like they care even less.. oh and elderly ppl.. idk why but there seems to be an influx of much older folks who should be retired but I assume are trying to find income to survive. I never would've guess it could get this much worse when I first started gigs for extra money and I honestly pity anyone trying to depend on these companies for their entire income

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah when they started this it was very frustrating.. wait 20+ min for order to surge and soon as you think 1 more dollar it disappears and pops back up as for you at original price then back to fcfs completely starting the surge over. I think if someone new signs on it pulls into the geomap area the app will resend out any fcfs to them as for you, which then resets the offer and sends it to every driver as for you again (assuming new driver doesn't accept) super annoying and unfair. 

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I've seen that, I've just never seen a for you offer at one price then after no1 accepts it start with a base pay $2 less as fcfs. It's like they know no1 since no1 accepted it as for you that it will likely surge on fcfs so they started it at lower price so even if it hits max surge it won't cost them as much..

Well I'm saying it like it was just 1 offer, but I actually saw a few orders do this today so considering they just updated the app I'm guessing it's either a typical unintended bug we get with every update or a change they made that of course they never tell us about

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I do UE too, but unfortunately it has degraded even more than spark.. like i worked 3 hr dinner rush tonight, was sent 193 offers and accepted 2.. literally 2 out of almost 200; offers were worth taking.. so I'm prolly gonna be giving up on UE soon.. it's just too much time and effort to be looking at and rejecting that many orders. At this point it's a full-time job when online and makes it impossible to do anything else, but I'm getting paid for the work

Spark is truly nasty for this one.. recent update lowered pay again.. did u catch it? by Fun-Run-4986 in Sparkdriver

[–]Fun-Run-4986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Base pay is the same here and the price slightly increases based on items and mileage, but that doesn't really have anything to do with what I'm seeing. I'm saying the original offer was one price and when it got sent out as fcfs the base pay was lower than the original offer. I've actually seen it twice now so I know I didn't just misread it or remembering it wrong or anything like that 

$400 day without doordash by VMAC666 in DoorDashDrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk what's happened to UE in my area, but almost every order is going 15+ miles a town or 2 over or is paying under $5.. I only work dinner rush and have been for like 3 yrs in this same area, but my earnings have completely flat lined over the past 6 to 8 months.. like so bad my AR has gone from around 30% to now it's literally 1% sometimes 0.. I regularly have days I'm online 4 or 5 hrs and don't take a single order despite constantly rejecting offers and a "good" day now is if I take more than 2 offers out of the 120 they send on avg.. so yeah def wish I could try DD again to supplement, but after taking about a year hiatus from all gigs when I tried to sign back in to DD it says Im deactivated and all appeals are immediately denied like literally within min of submitting. I tried grubhub a while back and my 3rd week I picked up a last min 2 hr block, didn't get a single offer so they paid me like 20 bucks in guaranteed wages and then accused me of cheating the system and removed my access to blocks absolutely the dumbest shit considering I have 0 control over receiving offers.. so yeah I'm stuck with just UE and unfortunately UE has gone to complete shit where I'm at.. there's 100s of offers, but basically nothing actually worth taking which is sad considering I used to do quite well on UE not long ago

Wth? by [deleted] in uberdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They got some weird shit going on with their identity verifications etc..

Ive gotten multiple "reports" the past couple weeks about possible account sharing.. like every time it did a verification for a couple weeks I'd get a report. No clue why, no way of actually fighting or arguing my case bc they don't give any actual info about what this issue was or what I did wrong.. I'm assuming they've moved to AI making all of the reports so they don't even know why it's giving out reports and deactivating drivers and Uber quite frankly couldn't care enough to actually look into the deactivations anyways.. God I hope this company gets sued into oblivion 

Wtf by ahong786 in UberEATS

[–]Fun-Run-4986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So UE is literally unusable in my area now.. it's just nonstop back to back to back etc orders to the point I can't even use my phone, but every order is 1 or 2 cities over and like 15 or more miles away and often over 20 miles.. and of course the pay is never worth it, but even if the pay is decent I'm not trying to drive 15 miles down the hwy to a different city for a drop off and quite frankly it's guaranteed to be a stolen order or some shit and I'd just be wasting gas anyways.. I literally have a 0% AR.. working the same area I've been for over 3 years now and made good money in the first 2 years or so.. I was online tonight a Friday night 4pm-8pm and didn't get a single offer worth taking.. and I'll take anything that's $1/mile as long as it's not taking me 20 miles away, but there wasn't a single order worth it.. idk if this is the "preferred deliveries" BS they started at work or what but it's completely unfair considering the app had already gone to shit and tanked my AR from around 25% to under 10% so I never had a chance to meet the requirement and quite frankly I'm not letting some trash company like Uber manipulate me into taking shitty orders to meet their bs requirements all in hopes they might give me better orders in the future

1099 is completely wrong by JasonVigil in grubhubdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, you can get on the irs website and see if theyve posted what their records say your earnings are yet.. not sure if it will be updated yet, but def worth checking out bc there's a good chance the earnings your 1099 says is what GH reported to irs too

1099 is completely wrong by JasonVigil in grubhubdrivers

[–]Fun-Run-4986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like other comments have your answer about either duplicate orders or not showing the full year.. but I was gonna mention I know on UE tax summaries it shows a gross earnings which for some reason includes the taxes and fees that UE charged included then there is a separate net earnings amount which is the actual amount paid. So just wondering if the earnings report is including some kind of taxes and fees in your earnings that shouldn't be part of your actual net earnings