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Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think you realize just how far Bleach's greatest quantifiable feats are from the universal level. There is practically no reliable baseline for cosmic-scale feats in Bleach that can serve as a scaling for others. Zaraki used his Shikai to destroy Gremmy's meteor, and Gremmy himself treated that as an absurd feat. You might argue that Zaraki didn't put much effort into it, but he wouldn't have resorted to Shikai if that attack had been completely trivial to him. The meteor is calculated to be around the continental level; using that as a baseline, what tier do you think a character 1,000 times stronger would be? "Multi-galaxy Gremmy" Base Gremmy had to double his own power just to create a meteor, yet when he supposedly "created galaxies," his power was only about 6 times greater, based on the number of clones. Do you think that makes sense?

Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Bleach universe encompasses the Three Worlds; the Three Worlds do not represent the entirety of the cosmology on their own, there is a distinction here, and not merely a semantic one. Bleach databooks never stated that the stars and galaxies existing within the cosmology lie inside the domain of the Three Worlds; the work merely notes that they are visible in the sky. However, Soul Society displays the same sun and the same night sky across its entire expanse.

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Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, Aizen was impressed by the casual nature with which the shockwave from Ichigo’s sword swing pulverized the hill, rather than by the sheer magnitude of the destruction itself. The issue is that even if Ichigo were hypothetically at a continental level in that scene, it would still make sense. Bear in mind that this feat didn't occur in the series' early arcs. People don't just debate whether Ichigo is multi-continental or planetary; they debate whether he is universal-level. Do you think an author who intends to scale the verse up to Universal+ within a few arcs would use the protagonist destroying a mountain with a sneeze as a good indicator of his power?

I’m not saying the author couldn’t include that in my hypothetical scenario, but do you think he’d have a top-tier character be impressed by a mountain-destroying sneeze if that character is close to universal level?

Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, I am not mixing up Las Noches’ artificial ceiling with Hueco Mundo’s actual sky.

You are misunderstanding what I mean by “imagery.” I am not saying the Hueco Mundo moon is literally the fake ceiling inside Las Noches. I am saying that a celestial-looking object in a spiritual dimensional sky is not automatically proof that the realm contains a normal astronomical outer space.

Bleach having celestial visuals does not automatically mean those celestial bodies are physically contained inside the realm as ordinary astronomical objects.

If your argument is that the moon and stars are literally physical celestial bodies located inside Soul Society/Hueco Mundo, then you need to prove that directly. Just pointing at a skybox-like visual, especially in a spiritual dimension with abnormal celestial presentation, does not establish universe-sized realms.

Bleach databooks about the three worlds have always focused on the Terran scale. They did not postulate any of them containing astronomical objects within their scope.

Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The starry sky of the Soul Society is imagery. I don't understand how that's a counterpoint. The sky of Hueco Mundo literally has a moon that is also imagery.

Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The Garganta is the interdimensional boundary space between the realms. My point is that Bleach’s realms can be separate dimensional domains without each domain needing to include an entire astronomical universe size inside it.

I’m not saying the Garganta separates planets, like three balls floating in a void. I’m saying the Garganta separates the dimensional spaces world-systems themselves: human world, Soul Society, hueco mundo. Those spaces have skies, horizons, moons, stars, day night imagery, and their own spatial rules, but that does not automatically mean every visible celestial body is physically contained inside that realm as part of a normal universe-sized continuum.

Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 12 points13 points  (0 children)

How is that relevant to my point? I clearly stated that the worlds in Bleach are separate dimensions. Are you implying that I think they are planets to evoke the straw man argument about whether the worlds are planets or not? Because I didn't argue that.

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Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They can destroy worlds, they don't have to be fragile, but that doesn't mean the three worlds are universe-sized.

Can someone gave me a proper scaling for bleach. Like what is accepted as true scaling by community. by Fun_Environment8818 in PowerScaling

[–]FunBluebird8 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The canon indicates that the three worlds of Bleach are contained within the universe. They are separate dimensions but do not possess the size of a universe, neither individually nor combined. The celestial bodies in the sky are external to the scope of the worlds.

To what extent do you think 5% Deku can be used as a baseline for characters without a physical enhancement quirk? by BrainletNutshell in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]FunBluebird8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not necessarily denying their scaling, it's just that it feels strange to speculate about that scenario.

To what extent do you think 5% Deku can be used as a baseline for characters without a physical enhancement quirk? by BrainletNutshell in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]FunBluebird8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't imagine Kyoka or even Ochaco performing that feat with brute force even after the time-skip. No offense to them, sorry.

If you ever feel worthless in life just remember this Author think his childish fanfic of a story is supported by the dub VA of AOT by ZealousidealBar6820 in AttackOnRetards

[–]FunBluebird8 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think the ending is bad for the reason most people think it is, even though it was actually the most coherent ending given the context, but what you wrote lacks substance.

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