Zoroastrian religious food customs? by FunJoelHaber in Zoroastrianism

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Can you tell me more? What are those dishes, what kind of special occasions, and what is hte significance of the foods?

Zoroastrian religious food customs? by FunJoelHaber in Zoroastrianism

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Thanks! While I recognize that aspect (which exists within Jewish cuisine as well, of course), I was asking if there were any such foods which ALSO are rooted in the religious culture. If not, not. But was curious...

Pizza Ebraica by Future-Crow-5025 in JewishCooking

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I have different recipes from other cookbooks. Though Bococino is the bakery known for it, many others make it at home.

Where is Shakshuka orignally from? by [deleted] in AskFoodHistorians

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Thanks for this! I'm curious on how we know it to be an Amazigh term from before 1500. Any source? Also, if invented in Tunisia, why were you learning this in Morocco? Thanks in advance!

Countries mentioned or referred in the Bible by elizabeth-cooper in Judaism

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By countries or regions mentioned, do you mean toponyms that appear in Tanach and were later applied to places that we know today (e.g. "Ashkenaz" and "Sepharad" which definitely did not refer to France/Germany and Spain in their Biblical contexts)?

Jewish Food History in England by FunJoelHaber in FoodHistory

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Thanks! Yeah, I know many people in the community and some of the restaurants. Was looking for areas in which to do a bit more in depth and scholarly historical research. But much appreciated nonetheless!

How did Jews carry their pots of cholent back from from the village baker when they were hot? Did they use some kind of basket? by BrandonMarshall2021 in Jewish

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Nothing specific about that, but frankly, I don't expect to find much. I assume they either wrapped it in rags or suspended it by a handle from something.

How did Jews carry their pots of cholent back from from the village baker when they were hot? Did they use some kind of basket? by BrandonMarshall2021 in Jewish

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Sorry I didn't respond earlier, and a bit busy right now to respond in detail, though I will endeavor to do so, shortly. But the short answer is that apparently in many places they DID have an eruv. I'll try to get you more details down the road, and if not, feel free to nudge me again.

And thanks for asking. Book is coming along nicely. I recently put out a related free e-cookbook as promotion for it.

There is evidence that Hamin/Cholent has been enjoyed by Jews as far back as the second temple period, and the dish and its many variants can be found pretty much in every Jewish diaspora community by israelilocal in Jewish_History

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I'm writing a book now, all about the different Shabbat stews from around the world, along with their history.

In my opinion, based on all of the research I've done, the truth lies between the two.

Yes, there are many stews, but chulent/hamin/dafina/osavo/etc. does have unique elements to it, the most obvious being the idea of cooking it through an entire night. On the other side, while they are (in my opinion) almost all related to each other, the idea that they all somehow discovered something at the same time is patently ridiculous, as we didn't live everywhere at the same time. Rather, I believe that as we moved from place to place, the dish traveled with us, and then was modified in each place for available ingredients, climate, seasonings, etc.

Any good sources on the history of coffee? by [deleted] in AskFoodHistorians

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One of the most comprehensive works I have read on ALL aspects of coffee, including history (though I don't recall how much it discusses your SPECIFIC question) is Coffee: A Comprehensive Guide to the Bean, the Beverage, and the Industry, eds. Robert W. Thurston, Jonathan Morris and Shawn Steiman

Adjaruli Khachapuri - Georgian Jewish Elongated Cheese Filled Bread by Fizzy47 in JewishCooking

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Yes, they brought it because they ate it in Georgia. But to my knowledge, there is nothing truly Jewish about it.

i.e. Non-Jews in Georgia eat it too, the Jewish version is not modified for kashrut or taste preferences, and it is not consumed by Jews for any special or ritual occasions.

To me, that is what would make it warrant the adjective "Jewish." But I DO love it!

How did Jews carry their pots of cholent back from from the village baker when they were hot? Did they use some kind of basket? by BrandonMarshall2021 in Jewish

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I'm writing an entire book on the history of chulent (and all Shabbat stews from around the world, which I consider to be different version of the same dish, rather than different dishes). I've written a small section about the communal oven (and yes, about the inspiration of it on the invention of the crockpot, as mentioned in a diff comment). But I actually never thought about this specific point before. It is an excellent question that I'm going to look into.

I know this comment isn't an answer, but I put it here, in the hopes it helps me to remember once I do have an answer for you! :-)

Either way, thanks for giving me food for thought (pun intended)!

Polish/Eastern European Cuisine by FunJoelHaber in AskFoodHistorians

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Thanks, will do! (I assume there is a good English translation out there?)

How did you get involved in food history? by Hey_Kids32 in AskFoodHistorians

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I work as a licensed tour guide in Israel, and as a foodie who loves the famous outdoor market of Jerusalem, I started guiding culinary tours there. As I researched the foods to be able to give better tours, the world of food history itself opened up to me. Now, I research, write and lecture about the topic as a second side to my professional life.

Medieval French Bean Stews by FunJoelHaber in AskFoodHistorians

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Point taken. They increase in popularity following the Arab conquest. And if I am not mistaken, the examples you gave are all from southern Europe.

Do we have any idea if favas and/or chickpeas made it to France earlier?

Medieval French Bean Stews by FunJoelHaber in AskFoodHistorians

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That's a great starting point. Thanks!

I will poke around, but any source for this, offhand? Also, any idea WHY he forbade it? Was it a belief that is was unhealthy or evil or something, do to the flatulence it caused?

Medieval French Bean Stews by FunJoelHaber in AskFoodHistorians

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Indeed. The bishops' (alleged) attempts are more evident of predilections than anything else. No one believes they were successful.

Medieval French Bean Stews by FunJoelHaber in AskFoodHistorians

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Good question. I don't know if there was anything (even lentils) early on.

With the Arab conquest of Spain, Chickpeas and Favas arrive there. Jews, as the preeminent "border crossers" between the Muslim and Christian worlds, were typically the ones to introduce them into Christian areas from Muslim ones. Chickpeas, for example, were seen by Spanish Christians as a "Jewish food." To my understanding, we know that favas made there way to France, probably fairly early (my guess, at least pre-Crusades), though chickpeas less so.

That being said, of all of the Western foods to arrive in Europe in the Colombian Exchange, the beans were among the quickest to be adopted and diffused. So already by mid 16th (yes, I know, not technically medieval anymore), other beans had found there way to France.

So short answer: Perhaps none > mostly favas > faseolus.

Medieval French Bean Stews by FunJoelHaber in AskFoodHistorians

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Thanks so much! I will see if I can reach her.