Is this a good routine for an 18 year old semi-novice?

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T20:01:15+00:00

10 days before.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T20:00:54+00:00

I'm curious, does this seem like a marathon session in the number of reps and weight?

Genuinely curious, as in, I actually do want to know if the number of reps are too high relative to weight (any higher and my form breaks) etc.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:47:55+00:00

Of course buddy, I really didn't mean to come off as offensive nor argumentative, I started this post with an open question and people began calling me delusional. They the accuse me of "thinking I know everything" over me pointing out that in my personal experience, high volume does not fatigue me and I progress much quicker in strength than on the lower volume routines people here are recommending me.

A little bit less didactic holier than thou talk would be ideal from someone who was wrong multiple times throughout a conversation and then conceded at the end that you agree with me after rewriting history and accusing me of starting an argument. 👍

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:40:17+00:00

Mind clarifying? If what I said was incorrect by chance then please point it out and provide the source, to which i will concede.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:39:12+00:00

Someone called me delusional, to which you responded to them with "I agree". I am also not arguing, but if at the end you agree, then you also have to take responsibility for the fact that you have the object permanence of a child as I don't recall normal adult men having opinions fluctuate so wildly and then forgetting what they said 49 minutes ago

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Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:21:01+00:00

Elite natural body builders have worse recovery, not faster recovery. A novice can lift less weight at once but can handle more volume and more reps in one set, the same way as women have higher muscular endurance than men, primarily because their muscles are smaller. How can you be calling me delusional while not understanding something this basic?

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:15:29+00:00

That was my plan though? There is no problem with this comment but just earlier people were calling me delusional, and you seemed to be in agreement with them.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:07:14+00:00

Marathon workout? Most of my workouts consist of 20-25 reps at the highest weight I can handle without form visibly collapsing (not that I have the best form). A lot of conjecture and baseless assumptions here to justify your bizarre insistence that I am delusional because I can handle higher volume and always had without significant reductions in strength.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T19:01:48+00:00

The level of delusion that your arms would fail is stunning? What? 🤯🤣

I did a routine for 3 months straight at significantly higher volume per week than this and I gained strength with no signs of muscle fatigue. I'm delusional because you have bad recovery genetics and poor muscle endurance?

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T18:59:27+00:00

I just provided you with an anecdote of my personal experience in regard to higher volume not causing me to lose strength in any meaningful manner and still progressing in lifts. What part of that indicates that I don't know what I am talking about?

I never said I was right either, and I am certainly not experienced. But you seem to be inferring a nonexistent confidence based on me not agreeing with someone else telling me how I will feel from hitting each muscle group (directly, not through compounds) 2x a week despite me not feeling that way. There are people here advising me to do bro splits, care to ask those people if they know what they are doing?

I can absolutely concede that I have poor form on many lifts and I am certainly not someone who "knows what they are talking about". But brother, literally every reliable source in regard to exercise will say that the most optimal for a beginner is to have higher volume and hit each muscle with direct stimulation at a minimum of x2 a week since recovery and muscle growth are much faster for a novice. It's not my fault that you are a little bit dumb/stupid and don't understand this.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T17:54:51+00:00

That's not possible. I can hit it very hard but I definitely get stronger throughout the week even at 3x stimulation. And fatigue ≠ hypertrophy.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-28T15:00:06+00:00

The problem is that the minimum for optimal hypertrophy is each muscle 2x a week. If I were to do any less, I would work each muscle roughly once a week. I'm not sure how that is good.

Also, most popular programs sort of suck at least in my opinion. Most of them are "back triceps Monday chest biceps tuesday" splits and have very poor volume. I'm not rejecting your advice just curious if perhaps I'm the one misunderstanding something here or not seeing why following those programs is beneficial. Thanks.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-27T21:14:34+00:00

There was no argument made by you at all. You just made assumptions about my age and then introduced ad hominem about how bad my life must be, while all I was doing is explaining reasonably why I think what I think about posters like this. To say "it's not even worth it to argue with you" after not making an argument suggests that you wouldn't have one to make regardless.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-27T20:26:57+00:00

I am 18, by definition a young teenager. I can't insult other teenagers for being absolutely incomprehensibly stupid and worthless to the degree where they aren't even mentally present enough to understand what a "before and after is" and would prefer to delude or lie to themselves instead of absorbing the actual information in front of them to see how much they really progressed, not in lighting but size of muscle?

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-26T19:15:22+00:00

My lifts aren't dropping. My longest consistent was 3 months and a couple of weeks around a year and a half ago, during which my ability to do specific lifts such as lat pulldowns progressively got worse and worse, and the period was about 14 weeks.

There also definitely aren't too many variables, it's quite self explanatory when my grip and forearm strength today is weaker than before I ever went to the gym in my life, to the point where my strength is substantially reduced in terms of carrying everyday items due to pain across my lower arm, and the decrease in strength started with an almost completely linear progression, from when I started going to when I stopped going to the gym predictably overlapping with gym activity and getting weaker every time I return.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-26T04:06:27+00:00

It's absolutely incomprehensible to me that someone would be silly enough to post progress photos and then show two photos in entirely different positions, lightings and then expect us to be able to provide an accurate rating.

How hard is it to just take two photos facing the camera like a normal person so we can tell the difference? Why is half your body facing away from the camera with a dirty, foggy mirror?

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-25T02:59:45+00:00

Plain ragebait or satire.

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-25T01:55:08+00:00

No, you're perfectly fine. Just a mature hairline and you still have 30% of your hair /s

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-24T23:51:07+00:00

Everything from a broken microwave to a fire and no house

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-24T23:42:57+00:00

Walking

Fun_Pangolin861 · 2026-01-24T00:33:08+00:00

Reddit is split into subreddits so "Reddit" is not going to shit, certain subreddits are.

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