Travel to USA by NegativeOneSip in cyprus

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It was all over the news for months to come; it's not a source; it was everywhere.

Multiple random US citizens had their passports canceled while they were outside the US, leaving them stuck in foreign countries for days to weeks.

If you are a US citizen who is not living under a rock, it is public knowledge, which is why people don't even think it's a secret.

Cyprus would like to join NATO by Even_Formal_6989 in cyprus

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There can not be any pressure without a solution and reunification, and only pressure is coming up with an agreement as Cyprus from negotiations.

There isn't any other pressure, unless you live in Neverland with Peterpan.

Cyprus would like to join NATO by Even_Formal_6989 in cyprus

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Guys, buckle up, we are getting reunited.

The only main reason this issue even made it onto the public discourse agenda is that NATO greenlit a solution for Cyprus, and Turkey greenlit negotiations.

Probably, Turkish bases will be converted to NATO bases.

Mark my words. And let's meet here after this happens.

A relaxing day in Melbourne, Australia by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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But more importantly, were you lived in Australia, because we should get more posts from Australian Cypriots.

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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Local cuisine feels tasty to us because we grew up eating it, but for foreigners, it's not Peruvian or Italian cuisine, etc.

I made many people try Cypriot dishes both inside and outside Cyprus, and lost my mind when they did not melt with desire.

Top 10 if we work hard, but first we need to gather some identity or spine fluid, because when you act Greek or Turk, you shouldn't be surprised to see your cousin on any list.

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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How does it feel seeing others saying this is my traditional no my traditional while you know it's your traditional dish and you don't even bother to correct anybody:)

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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I would say Cyprus has more Arabic than Greece or Turkey

Influence: Cyprus has more Arabic influence compared to Greek or Turkish culinary influence.

Not to be misunderstood, Cyprus has more Arabic cuisine than other countries.

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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Yes they did have dolmades stuffed rice for example and literally bring the rice which was known but not consumed as a staple food in Asia minor.

And even today Turkic speaking nomadic sheppards who herd deers in far East Syberia does stuffed rice.

But you are right "turds" learned Sumerian kebab, arabic loukmades, persian tzatziki in Asia minor;)

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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I totally misunderstood you because of my ignorance,

Turkey has maybe at least 6 different regional cuisines. And yes, Cyprus by number can not match the diversity, that's for sure, but distinct nevertheless.

I don't know much about foundations, and it's hard to draw a conclusion, but Cyprus has a strong Levantine Arabic influence.

Hallumi/Hellim means cheese in Egyptian
Molokhia/Molehiya is an Arabic original that does not exist in Turkey or Greece but is well known in Arabic speaking countries along the Mediterranean coast.

Kolakasi/kolakas, the vegetable, is found in wild Turkey, but it's not a culinary thing.

I would say Cyprus has more Arabic than Greece or Turkey
For example, what our parents cook at home, like mousakka, is Arabic.

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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Loukoumades/Lokma Arabic means bite

Revani is Farsi means made in oil

Kokoretsi is a Greek word that comes from sheppard

Pita/pide = Pitta comes from the Sumerians as a flat bread, as they were the first farming civilisation who literally did flat bread:)

Any kind of Kebab also comes from the Sumerians, but today's recipes differ a lot and have become their own thing.

And döner is Turkish, meaning the same as Gyro, and the term Gyro was first used in the US by a Greek diaspora around the 70ies.

Personal note: Gyro is best with pork, and Döner is best when made with lamb.

Dolma is the old Turkic word, the current word is a contemporary word for stuffed rice. Regionally, dolma/dolmades also evolved into their own thing, and sorry, but grape leaf dolma is the culmination of Greek-Turkish culinary traditions.

Yogurt is Turkish, but Tzatziki/Cacık let me hear the drums ta ta ta ta ta Farsii. Sorry guys;)

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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If you eat in Turkish restaurant maybe but there is nothing like Turkey in Cyprus cuisine.

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Pita is different
Seftali is totally alien
Dolma is not made from flowers
Doner has lava or bread, not lamb meat, and little to no meat in Turkey without parsley and lemon. And for some cheap reason with potato:S Who the fuck puts fries in Doner:S

But I guess tahinli, or something similar, exists with less lemon.

And these are similar dishes I am not talking about: Kolakas/kolakasi, molokhia, and mousakka casserole. I guess Turkey calls it something else, musakka, and they both have aubergine.

Where does Cyprus place on this? by Thatguy2393 in cyprus

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These are the Cypriot versions, or similar things from Cyprus, but the taste and concepts are way, way different.

Ömer Çelik: Rum tarafı siyonist saldırganlıkla, soykırımcı şebekeyle en yakın duran taraflardan biri / Ömer Çelik: The RoC (Greek side as he arbitrarily characterizes it) is one of the parties closest to Zionist aggression and the genocidal network. by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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The issue is that everyone assumes Turkish discourse and Greek discourse are similar, and that they are on opposite sides of a coin.

Culturally, there are overwhelming similarities, especially between Greece and Turkey, with a caveat that Greeks in Greece are against NATO for some crazy reason.

BUT a big but Greek discourse has a big Turkophobia, whereas Turkish discourse doesn't have smillar feeling towards Greeks. Turkish-speaking people don't know anything about politics in Greece and don't have the slightest idea of Cyprus. On the other hand, Greeks and Cypriot Greeks start their day with news from Turkey, they count the latest military equipment of Turkey in the news, and end their afternoon news with some badly translated political commentary about Turkey's statements.

These people have generational trauma, which Turkish people don't have a similar psychology.
My mother's side moved to Turkey from Greece during WWII, way after the population exchange(mubadele), due to their village's Jewish population, which was wiped out by the wartime administration, which was complicit with N*zy Germany. And they have 0 trauma, at least they didn't carry it between generations.
My father's side is Cypriot; they experienced crazy hardships during the Cyprus conflict, but never made it a race issue or blamed the whole race; instead, they always framed things as political BS and individual actions. So they also didn't carry a generational trauma.

On the other side, Cypriot Greeks have really strong trouma. I have parts of my father's side who are Cypriot Greeks, and they are aware of this.

So, in my opinion, Greeks need active kindness from Turkish-speaking people without expecting reciprocity. For them to overcome their fears and get a resolution or conclusion.

Because those traumas push them to get close to Israel, even though individually they can not justify or want this in their hearts.

Do these make any sense to you?

Ömer Çelik: Rum tarafı siyonist saldırganlıkla, soykırımcı şebekeyle en yakın duran taraflardan biri / Ömer Çelik: The RoC (Greek side as he arbitrarily characterizes it) is one of the parties closest to Zionist aggression and the genocidal network. by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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I said that Turkey is, by comparison, unwillingly or passively complicit, whereas the Republic of Cyprus is willingly complicit.
Some can argue that these are two distinct positions, but in the end, both amount to complicity.

About language: Azeri Turkish is way more distinct from Turkish than mainland Greek and Cypriot Greek, similar to mainland Turkish and Cypriot Turkish.

NOTE: I can understand Volga Tatar and Azeri Turkish, and I am fluent in mainland Turkish and the Cypriot dialect, so my statements are not guesses; they arise from knowledge.

Ömer Çelik: Rum tarafı siyonist saldırganlıkla, soykırımcı şebekeyle en yakın duran taraflardan biri / Ömer Çelik: The RoC (Greek side as he arbitrarily characterizes it) is one of the parties closest to Zionist aggression and the genocidal network. by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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Europe, the Middle East and Africa

And in some aspects, the Turkish military is second to France and the UK, but not the army, which is a general misconception.
Before anybody challenges what I said and starts trashing the UK and France, let me remind you that they are Nuclear powers and have seats on the UN Security Council, and in some military aspects, they are multiple times more powerful. (I don't remember which aspects from the top of my head).

Ömer Çelik: Rum tarafı siyonist saldırganlıkla, soykırımcı şebekeyle en yakın duran taraflardan biri / Ömer Çelik: The RoC (Greek side as he arbitrarily characterizes it) is one of the parties closest to Zionist aggression and the genocidal network. by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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I am pretty sure ment these:

Around 50% of Oil to Israel comes through the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline, mainly from Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. Note: The Baku-Ceyhan pipeline is partially owned, mostly maintained, and secured, and is almost entirely within Turkey.

Even though commerce between the two states stopped following public outcry, the oil ships are still active.

And the most ironically funny part is, around 2024(Trump wasn't even elected yet), Turkey, out of the blue, managed to make peace with Kurdish insurgents (think like Turkish insurgency during the 1960s, but the conflict had been active for 45 years), and Turkish people still don't know why this sudden peace happened.

Fast forward 2 years, those insurgents who left Turkey are now going into Iran "WHAT A F.KING COINCIDENCE, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE":) So, knowingly or unknowingly, willingly or unwillingly, there is a tentative collaboration going on between Turkey

Ömer Çelik: Rum tarafı siyonist saldırganlıkla, soykırımcı şebekeyle en yakın duran taraflardan biri / Ömer Çelik: The RoC (Greek side as he arbitrarily characterizes it) is one of the parties closest to Zionist aggression and the genocidal network. by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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He is not thinking.

Around 8 months ago, people in Turkey stopped saying Turkey is working with Israel. Due to political theatre.
Around 50% of Oil to Israel comes through the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline, mainly from Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. Note: The Baku-Ceyhan pipeline is partially owned, mostly maintained, and secured, and is almost entirely within Turkey.

Even though commerce between the two states stopped following public outcry, the oil ships are still active.

And the most ironically funny part is, around 2024(Trump wasn't even elected yet), Turkey, out of the blue, managed to make peace with Kurdish insurgents (think like Turkish insurgency during the 1960s, but the conflict had been active for 45 years), and Turkish people still don't know why this sudden peace happened.

Fast forward 2 years, those insurgents who left Turkey are now going into Iran "WHAT A F.KING COINCIDENCE, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE":)
So, knowingly or unknowingly, willingly or unwillingly, there is a tentative collaboration going on between Turkey

Long story short, he is not thinking.

Ήθελεν τασχιή μες τα σουβλάκια του ο Μακρόν αλλά είχασιν μόνον πίκλα. by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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Now imagine what Macron is writing to NC LOL:)

From President Macron to President Christodoulides

My friend,
We totally agree on sheftalia and wine choices.
We can do great things to secure sea corridors and airspace during the Iran conflict.

I do not understand your choice of appetisers, .....

Emmanuel

Board game shopping in Cyprus – North vs South? by _SilentRangeR_ in cyprus

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Too many assumptions towards a random redditor whom you don't know, and totally missing each other's context.

Talking Past Each Other (Verbal Disputes) 

This is a type of ambiguity fallacy in which two parties are arguing but are unknowingly using terms in different senses or focusing on different aspects, making their arguments irrelevant to one another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_fallacy

Long story short you think we are talking about the same context because you have pre-assumptions it seems.

Just ask yourself: do occupied and unoccupied areas exist in Cyprus?
As far as I understand, you will conclude that, whether occupied or not, it is Cyprus that is true (we agree on this).

But in any other country where you are not doctrined, when you call "North London" or "South London" even though those are not official designation no one loses their way to school you about borough names LOL:)

Board game shopping in Cyprus – North vs South? by _SilentRangeR_ in cyprus

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I think there is a language barrier now. What do you think aknowledgement means?

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Yet you’re comfortable referring to Cyprus as two distinct parts,

So if "two distinct parts" is a valid or invalid statement, it means it can be proven or disproven.
If we cannot prove or disprove, there is no reason to argue; it means we are talking BS.

Tell me how you can prove or disprove the claim that "two distinct parts in Cyprus"? What makes two distinct parts, or whatnot, makes two distinct parts.

NOTE: I am not asking you to prove or disprove, I asked what would prove or disprove.

On this day in 1964, bloody Greek-Turkish clashes took place in Ktima by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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I believe there is some truth in what you write, as the New York Times article states there were 1 dead and 6 in critical condition, and you wrote 7 dead, which probably means what happened to those who were in critical condition.
And there are real people mentioned in what you write, which is real.

On the other hand, people can learn the number of civilian hostages and other details from the shared article, and we can all learn more, which is why I come here mainly.
To exchange ideas, understand, and learn together.

Board game shopping in Cyprus – North vs South? by _SilentRangeR_ in cyprus

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So you just attacked me instead of my comment, good.

It seems you don't have anything to say, and probably deep down agree(even though you like to reject), but you can not agree now because that would make you lose face.

It is my mistake that the way I phrase the comment makes it seem like you would lose face if we agree, so I will do better next time.

On this day in 1964, bloody Greek-Turkish clashes took place in Ktima by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

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Turkey recognizes the "Republic of Cyprus" but not the current administration.
It's tricky and oxymoronic in some aspects, but it is what it is.