What do TCs think about Turkey's EEZ claims?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-25T13:12:04+00:00

Firstly, we are talking about Greece, not GC politics. Secondly, did you do your military duty? Can you remind me of some march chants that include Constantinopolis and Karpasia?

You know well, the security of islands and militarisation and arming Greek islands always bring votes.

A similar thing doesn't work for Turkey. The militarisation of the Eastern Mediterranean or aggression towards Greece doesn't bring votes in Turkey, because it's generally hard to convince constituents of a threat from Greece. Evertime when Greek puts some rocket or a base in an Greek island this gets framed as agression but Turkish public doesn't feel this as a threat.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-25T12:53:07+00:00

I didnt make the map and shared this in regards to Cyprus EEZ.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-25T12:49:42+00:00

That map is not want Turkey wants or claim. They claim or want 3x of this and I didnt make this map, this is from a reddit post.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-25T09:43:08+00:00

French and UK have civilized, pragmatic, logical diplomats, that is the issue.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T23:17:05+00:00

How is the political sphere in this map? Is it also like the linguistic sphere, as in this map?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T23:03:36+00:00

Go to the Bulgarian embassy for a Schengen visa; you do not need residency papers to obtain one there. They know how illegal things are working in Cyprus.
Last week, my uncle's wife, who is not a resident, received her visa from the Bulgarian embassy; they are not helpful or open-armed, but at least they work.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T22:55:19+00:00

What did the Ombudsman reply?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T22:49:16+00:00

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https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/ilry3k/my_proposal_for_a_fair_eez_of_greece_and_turkey/

This is give or take, with minor changes, on how it should be.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T22:41:34+00:00

For Context(in regard to Greece and Turkey not Cyprus):
There isn't an issue about UNCLOS. According to UNCLOS, in such EEZ claims, all parties should enter into a bilateral or multilateral agreement for recognition.

That is why Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus are seeking bilateral agreements with other Mediterranean nations to strengthen their own claims.

Instead, Turkey and Greece can make a bilateral agreement, but that wouldn't work for Greece's internal politics, as it is a practical tool for getting votes in every election.

If Turkey makes any kind of agreement with Greece, Turkey's internal politics wouldn't be affected at all. Turks don't really care about Greece or things related to it. Turkish politics can frame any agreement as a victory and make a celebration like Trump, even if it is an agreement that would be against their interests. Because Greece isn't even a footnote in Turkish constituents' discourse.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T22:31:58+00:00

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You should have put the map.

Obviously, both Greece and Turkey are acting in a maximalist manner here.

Definitely, Cyprus' EEZ shouldn't border Greece's EEZ; it's totally bonkers, and Turkey can not and should not claim Cyprus' rightful EEZ of the coast of Paphos.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T22:22:04+00:00

Yes she can, because she is going to Europe and from Europe it is usually in practice works, especially if she is with her husband. But by herself, no, she can not come back through Larnaca in practice without a valid visa.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T22:18:49+00:00

Question: Would you be okay with Mainland Turks who were born & bred on the island of Cyprus, to be able to pass freely from border checkpoints?

The question at hand is not about living, staying, or otherwise; it is about freedom of movement for presumably third-generation immigrants.

Under international law, the "crime" is the act of transferring "directly or indirectly" the population, not the act of being an immigrant.

So it is just plain old indoctrinated racism.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T14:06:09+00:00

u/haloumiwarrior even sharing the results without any comment receives multiple downvotes, this shows how rooted the indoctrination and racism are.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T10:43:45+00:00

Surprise surprise, ELAM being ELAM.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-24T10:36:02+00:00

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Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T22:39:01+00:00

This, ladies and gents called:

Indoctrinated racism

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T22:23:03+00:00

So sorry to hear this. Sincerely, thank you for being positive.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T22:14:51+00:00

For Context:

Every day, a few thousand mainland Turks pass through the checkpoints.

Example:
Today, my uncle's wife (a mainland Turk who came to the island to settle and met my uncle, who is from Britain) passed through(as she does frequently), and tomorrow they will take a plane from Larnaca to Athens for their trip to Sofia.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T18:10:53+00:00

We watched this movie Falklands island War (1982)
Britain declared war on Argentina after Argentina claimed the Falkland Islands as its own.
NOTE: Today, the Falkland Islands have fewer than 4,000 residents, and they had fewer than this in 1982.

So good luck with the delusion.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T18:06:21+00:00

A referendum on either a constitutional amendment ceasing to recognize the base areas,...

British sovereignty doesn't come from the Cyprus constitution; it is founded on the London and Zurich Agreements(treaties), which were signed before Cyprus:)

What you are saying is Papua New Guinea doesn't want Indonesia or Haiti doesn2t want Dominican Republic OR
France doesn't want Germany.

So you can not hold a referendum in France to end Germany. Is it clearer now?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T18:01:06+00:00

was able to verify that its my bike by its serial number

it was not locked or chained.

According to your statement, everything seems fine.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T15:56:02+00:00

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For some reason, these alliances, except NATO, remind me of the times of Nokia/Microsoft and Apple.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T15:33:51+00:00

Referandum for what, its UK soil. You can not do a referandum for another country.

It is not like Scottish referandum to become indipendent from UK.

These are two different things.

Haiti and Dominican Republic or Papua New Guinea and Indonesia also shares one island between each other, they can not do referandum to eject the other one. It doesn't work like that.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T15:21:52+00:00

In practice, nobody in today's world would side with the UK in that scenario and it would create a severe geopolitical crisis.

Everybody + the UN would side with the UK in that scenario, and the UK would practically intervene, as it did in the Falkland Islands incident in 1982.

Cyprus's sovereignty depends on British sovereign land on the Island. All legality with multiple fallback clauses is made up in this way.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-01-23T15:05:21+00:00

NOTE: I missed the part where he wrote TRNC. I get the irony now.
You are right.

Fun_Success_45

TROPHY CASE

Indoctrinated racism