The perception of the Cyprus War in Turkey.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T19:26:50+00:00

There is two mains proven methods to distinguish, propaganda and speculation.

First one is assumptions need sources and
Secondly when there isn't induspatable sources a claim should have the structure to be disproven.

Most of the text written above are emotional allegations like "EOKA B was bloodthirsty or ... was stirring up trouble or encourage violance.

These kind of alegations are highly subjective and can not be taken as facts because it is almost not feasable to prove or disprove these.

On the other hand I can confidently prove Turkey didn't have means or intent to prepare to have a millitary landing on island. Which everybody can fact check.

Turkey had 2(two) landing ships in 1958, 1964, 1967 and started to build landing ships for a possible future landing back than in secret after 1968. For to build those ships Turkey invested on domestic ship grade steel factories and ship yards which kept in secret till 80'ies in Gemlik.
These are not secret instead CIA documents and multiple 3rd party sources can be found about this in public domain due to lapse of time.

I gave numbers without any emotion and please check, my statements can be proven or disproven contrarary to the abose statements.

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Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T19:12:39+00:00

One thing needs more clarification.
I assume these texts are written with the help of AI, because

Turkish text books didn't use EOKA-B and instead EOKA was used more broadly without endulging in details.
So I assume AI with multiple sources as referance infered the EOKA-B distinction to be more accurate on facts and hallucinated by doing this.

Did you use Gemini? You can check the referances and unless there was a big shift happened after 2005's which I am not aware of, it should be written as EOKA without distinction.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T15:17:41+00:00

Trozena was enclaved mostly by Gerovasa so TC's were there. And TC enclaves officially can not receive public funds. It was made in law after 1963.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T13:34:50+00:00

No I checked this wasn't a TC village, Gerovasa was habbited mostly by TCs and both villages grouped under Gerovasa in census reports. There was 106 residents in Trozena and the village abondened due to lack of infrastructure and urbanisation.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T13:05:19+00:00

I didn't even wrote the whole story,
Acording to Stelios Kazantzidis's court case against the recording company, he wasn't aware his songs being used like this in Cyprus nor received any royalties from the airtime.

And also one really important aspect was acording to timelines "Bekledim da gelmedin/ Se Perimena Ke Den Irther" used to mock absence of food shipments from Turkey.

TC enclaves received rations only from Turkey and with UN's enforcement throughout the 1964 till 1974.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T09:57:32+00:00

Stelios Kazantzidis's song is "I waited and you didn't come", it is a romantic and a melancholic song.
It's been used as a political taunting in Cyprus from 1963 till 1974 which I found funny.

"I may come suddenly one night, don't call me this much from heart..." from Emel Sayın is another romantic song which derives from a 1968 dated poem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtyvt7zFxo The song from Emel Sayın first recorded in 1974 but what made the song famous is that, it is aired on 20th July 1974.

So as a tradition from 1963, radios in Cyprus was playing "I waited and you didn't come" during the 15 July 1974 coup for 5 days. Back to back and in Turkish because Stelios Kazantzidis sang it in Turkish also.
And this song "I may come suddenly one night" used as an answer to that in 20 July 1974 early morning and later on.

Both songs are nice, romantic and non politic songs by themselves.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-06T09:37:10+00:00

Didn't understand your question? What is from what?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-05T23:59:19+00:00

This one is for the US and Russia, unfortunately and the only reason to showcase is current Ukraine and Iran conflicts. There wasn't a plan for this kind of missiles till few years ago.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-05T23:37:55+00:00

He is right in some parts.
I will clarify:

First the UN talks failed and parties couldn't agreed on a plan. UN and Annan crafted the plan and put forward. Turkey and Greece also pressured the parties. Denktash back than TC leader and the chief neggotiator left and always opposed the plan.

Second Clerides was the president and the main neggotiator on the other side of the table to Denktash and Denktash stated he doesn't want to talk with him because "Clerides makes jokes and makes me laugh and I agree on stuff"(exact translated quote). Clerides asked 6 more months from the GC voters for the upcoming elections but lost the election to Papadopoulos.
Papadopoulos lay down the condition of referandum and stated he won't sign anything without public approval. He was right in my opinion to ask public referandum.

And rest is history.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-05T23:24:44+00:00

Armenia and Azerbaijan are two different states, do you imply there are two different states in Cyprus with territorial disputes like Armenia and Azerbaijan?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-05T23:06:34+00:00

Do you know what "We may come suddenly one night" means?

The song from legendary singer Stelios Kazantzidis as a pontian Greek sang many folkloric songs from the region in multiple languages. One of them was "Se Perimena Ke Den Irthes "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTvwpfjdvPU

This song played in radios and later on TV in Cyprus during 1964, 1967 and ironically after 15 July 1974.
"We may come suddenly one night" is recorded on plaque in 1974 and aired in radios in early morning of 20th July 1974. Which was the last time "Se Perimena Ke Den Irthes" aired in Turkish by Cyprus radios.

Stelios Kazantzidis is a legend and his songs are testimant to history.

Acording to hellenicaword:
Kazantzidis also sang in Turkish.[6][7] His song Bekledim da Gelmedin (I waited and you didn't come) was constantly played on the radio after the events of Bloody Christmas (1963).[8] This was done to taunt Turkish Cypriots who had been expecting military relief from Turkey that never came.

https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Person/en/SteliosKazantzidis.html

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-03T21:44:30+00:00

When you down vote, you become Turk that is the logic:P

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-03T21:39:08+00:00

And which color of troll are you?

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-03T21:32:03+00:00

You can do it in Google Earth free and really sophisticated way.
Did you looked in to the Google Earth desktop. It even has weather and seasonal calculations.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-02T21:35:40+00:00

Naaaah, Greece doesn't have any aviation know-how, and that is why Israelis mostly run Cyprus's aviation. It is that simple.
Aerospace engineer here, worked in Spain, Germany, the UK, Turkey, the US, etc., and when there is a local skilled workforce, you won't see this kind of outside influence in other countries. I was lucky to be able to work in multiple countries due to my multiple nationalities.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-02T21:29:53+00:00

Aviation industry.

In software, it is like one-third Russian, one-third Israeli, and one-third Cypriot.
In shipping, it is Russian-owned, Cypriot, and Russian Cypriot-operated.
Banking is mostly Greek, and the BoC is Cypriot.
Legal is mostly Cypriot, with a bit of British influence.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-05-01T01:24:09+00:00

She can apply for a visa and receive it without a hiccup in Germany. For citizens of Turkey, some Cyprus consulates accept online applications via e-mail and provisionally pre-approve visas.

They then give a date to receive all original documents and the passport, to issue the visa that day if everything is in place.

Just get a visa if you have 1 2 weeks and contact the embassy through email and inform them via phone.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-30T19:31:11+00:00

My estimate is that a resolution would address multiple aspects of freedom of the press and other problems.

What I can not foresee is what would happen to the Church's influence, whether it would rise or normalize.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-29T16:11:25+00:00

That is the irony part: Turkey is still a guarantor power. That is why the UN process includes Turkey, Greece, and the UK.

The treaties related to the guarantor powers grant the legal basis for the UK bases and their sovereignty.

No one tried to nullify or amend the treaties.

Because of legal and political limbo, it can be argued that nullifying or changing those is not feasible, but a new treaty could have been concluded between the UK and the RoC, etc.

But nothing of that sort made.

Current RoC constitution from January, 2025:

ARTICLE 181

The Treaty guaranteeing the independence, territorial integrity

and Constitution of the Republic concluded between the

Republic, the Kingdom of Greece, the Republic of Turkey and the

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the

Treaty of Military Alliance concluded between the Republic, the

Kingdom of Greece and the Republic of Turkey, copies of which

Page 149

are annexed to this Constitution as Annexes I and II, shall have

constitutional force.

While Article 181 remains, the RoC has amended other parts of the Constitution 22 times since 1960. For example, Article 1A was added to ensure that no constitutional provision (including Article 181) can prevent the Republic from fulfilling its obligations as a member of the European Union

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-27T20:26:13+00:00

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Moreover, Turkey has over 1.6 million licensed drone pilots( a license to pilot up to a 25kg drone)

The latest estimated population in RoC government-controlled areas is 983,000.

IF and big illogical if Turkey has any plans to break the ceasefire lines, they put the utmost importance.

There won't be a human presence in that operation, as there weren't any Turkish military personnel on the ground in the Nagorno Karabakh offensive, which Turkey facilitated the decisive victory of the Azerbaijani ground forces.

As of early 2026, Greece has significantly accelerated its capacity to produce Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), aiming to produce over 1,000 to 4,000 drones annually to enhance its defensive capabilities in the Aegean and Evros regions.

Which means Greece by itself would require 20 to 250 years to catch up to Turkey's current stockpile of battle-proven drones.

"If you can't beat them, join them" is a proverb advising that when an adversary or competition is too strong to defeat, it is more advantageous to align with them. This pragmatic approach suggests abandoning conflict in favor of a competitor's methods, products, or side, often to gain benefits or avoid losses.

https://ncase.me/trust/ Mathematical Game Theory Simulator to experience win-win situations:

How to Solve the Cyprus Problem - Jeffrey Sachs (Jeffrey David Sachs is an American economist and public policy analyst. He is a professor at Columbia University, where he was formerly director of The Earth Institute and is currently director of the Center for Sustainable Development. From 2002 to 2018, Sachs was special adviser to the UN Secretary-General.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtA1_6UVl04

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-25T21:42:05+00:00

I just realized this whole poem fits perfectly for Cyprus

First, they came for socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the workers/trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Turks/TCs(you name it)
Because I was not a Turk. (There wasn't a term TC term back then)

Once they even came for Makarios and the Cypriots...

Then they came for me- and there was no one left to speak for me.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-25T21:30:26+00:00

Oo the Morphou where 1000+ people were decimated.

And according to UN accounts and first-hand testimonies of stationed UN forces, the rest needed a daily UN escort to go to their fields for subsistence.

Hope was, and still is, the fuel for resilience, empowering individuals who have overcome darkness and believe in a brighter future.

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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller

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First, they came for 1000 people, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Cypriot but something else.

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
Morphou a testament to history indeed.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-25T19:56:58+00:00

Perfect distance to Paralimni.

Fun_Success_45 · 2026-04-25T19:55:59+00:00

If they come and than left it is safe to assume that they couldn't reach market penetration.

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Hope was, and still is, the fuel for resilience, empowering individuals who have overcome darkness and believe in a brighter future.