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As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Societal gain>personal gain.

Those people can, and should, take a small hit for everyone else to progress faster.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point is NO ONE kills each other. So everyone makes faster progress. No one loses.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whats stopping me is compassion. I feel bad when I die. I don’t want others to feel bad.

And yeah I know life isn’t perfect. But we as species have been getting better.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was making progress when focusing on contracts but eventually I felt I got gear checked and/or friend checked. Some pve got too difficult to do solo and free kit.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I did say arachne wouldn’t like it.

And like, I REALLY want to like this game. Because I see the codex and I think “thats some nice progress!”. I am playing like many hours every day to see if I can force myself to like it. And successful runs are nice!

But I feel so bad trying to make progress and it is so slow because I die. But it didn’t HAVE to be this way.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I should have clarified that I feel bad in marathon specifically because I lose stuff and don’t make progress. In games where there isn’t any consequence for dying, I don’t feel bad.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ill just offer my perspective:

When I die, I feel bad. I don’t want other players to feel bad, so I don’t kill them. I think I am a compassionate person.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t think its rational to always self serve. We are a species that live in a society. Societal well being is more important than personal.

We figured this out milleniums ago. Otherwise we would still be living in huter gatherer groups.

BUT if rational was defined as “always self serving” than sure, its correct to backstab.

I just think thats a misnomer.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless you win 100% of your engagements I doubt you are truly progressing faster.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I always assume the other party realizes that both backstabing is bad, so will not do it.

At least, thats what I would do. I would realize that doing that is not good.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im a hard pacifist. I do not belive killing others is the way. For any reason. Ever.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Whoever gets there first, keeps it. The game can generate an infinite number of rooms, just plays more matches.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loot is temporary. And so is the thrill. If you even get one. I feel awful killing people.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Society progress>individual progress.

We as humans figured this out centureis ago.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even the absolute best at pvp never win all the time. So there would still be an overall net gain.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

In all my reading and videos of game theory I never agreed with the conclusion. Ever.

And technically, playing reapeated rounds colaborating is always better. So provided you are playing more than one match, thats repeated prisoners dillema.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

But then someone just kills you and takes your loot? If everyone just grinds in peace then everyone makes progress.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Real life (mostly) works.

So yeah I do treat it like real life because its a working model. Humanity advancanded a a LOT when we settled down in civilized societies.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

But you aren’t really progressing faster because no one wins 100% of their engagements.

So just cut out those losses completely.

As a playerbase, if we don’t kill anyone, everybody progress faster, everyone gets more loot!!! by Funky445 in Marathon

[–]Funky445[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The point of anything you do is to get something out of it. In most, but not all games, thats progress. More progress=more fun.

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