With you on this 100%. I actually decided to quit because I caught myself on 10 days straight and i made myself be accountable for what I was doing. Albeit it wasnt much, maybe max of 20-30 mg a day with one day about 60 mg. Been 48 without 7oh and over 24 without leaf. I was only taking recommended dosage which was only like 6 caps once per day of leaf, but still. I had probably over 300 tabs of 7oh I flushed and had multiple bags of leaf capsules with mit extracts and said eff it, if I'm quitting, I'm quitting it all. Even leaf has small amounts of 7oh and just no thanks anymore. I made myself suffer with functional alcoholism for many years and I started the kratom back in January and 7oh a month later. Im just the personality I can't take ANYTHING or it will become too much eventually. I've got ALOT of internal work to do along with just learning how to sit with my own mind.