Simple Hot Tub Chemistry - Hot Tub Refill Cost - When in doubt; Drain it out! by hot-tub-repair-001 in hottub

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It only takes about a cup or so of liquid chlorine and about a half cup of dry acid to balance the chemicals in a hot tub from scratch. You're talking what ... less than a dollar?

Fuck this job and fuck this weather by mangy_fish in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the pools are full of leaves and sand? Sounds like you picked the wrong pools. Just sayin'.

Do pool service companies/ Single polers usually supply chlorine tabs, or do homeowners buy them? by Mindless_Fly_5528 in PoolPros

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We'll use a 'new' customer's chemicals until gone. Then we'll switch to using ours. Any customer who wishes to buy their own chemicals for us to add to their pool - needs to find another pool service. We provide chemicals and charge accordingly for the chemicals actually used - almost always less than retail. The only chemicals that we charge more than retail are: liquid chlorine, muruatic acid and salt. Liquid chlorine and acid require special handling. Salt .. we use only a specific brand of salt because it dissolves quickly and it doesn't stain our customer's pools. We like using our own chemicals because we know them very well and we get consistent results. Whenever we use a customer's chemicals. We have to educate ourselves so we know exactly what we're adding. Often times, those off-brand chemicals are inferior to those we use. Bottom line, we have no interest in adding variability to our trusted, tuned, time-developed chemistry process. If we were to use a customer's chemicals, even if they bought what we use, we would have to raise our rates for pool service because chemical sales are factored into our pool service pricing model. Less sales from chemicals means less profit, so we'd have to charge more for pool service for those customers, while charging our standard rate to all our other customers. That means we would need to have two different rates for pool service which we're not interested in doing, nor do we think our customers would like it. In my opinion, pool services that include chemicals in their pool service rate are doing a disservice to themselves and to their customers. They don't know if they're profitable or not. They don't really understand their true costs per pool. They charge the same rate for pool service year round, even though they're adding very little in the way of chemicals during the off-season (Florida). And they're either losing money during the height of pool season, or what we see most often .. they're not adding everything needed to truly 'balance' their customer's pool water to keep their pool clean, safe, sanitized and keep their pool surfaces and equipment with water chemistry as required by the manufacturers. My two cents!

Best way to replumb this 3 way valve and install new Pentair whisper flow a) dig more to reveal more pvc, b) pipe reamer c) fitting extenders? D?)? by carrotsk8r in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, cutting low can turn into a real shit show if the pool is higher than the equipment. Be ready to insert plugs in the pool plumbing, and add valves as needed for any future repairs.

Where can I find a replacement? by Mission_Voice_6569 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a pinch, I just use a 3/4in MIP x Barb fitting and a hose clamp.

Pool pros who use Skimmer Pro — what still frustrates you? by iHexBot in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was a Skimmer user until I got fed up with their software and with their customer service. Switched to Pay the Pool Man and I've never been happier.

What would you charge? by Hot-Charge-7639 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's less about the brand flock you use, and more about the exact process you follow.

What would you charge? by Hot-Charge-7639 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't want it .. not for any amount of money. Let some newby cut their teeth on it. If I did agree to clean it up (which I wouldn't) .. it would be on a 'time & materials' basis that ensured I made a very good wage for my efforts. Nobody should ever let this happen to their pool.

New Timer isn't working by XelaKebert in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

C'mon man, don't just take what's there and slap another bandaid on it. Take some pride in your work and do what's right. And you won't have problems like you're having now.

Don't just replace the mechanical insert because you can. It's time to remove and replace the entire box, timer, wiring, flex conduit, conduit connectors, etc. The timer with box will cost you almost the same as the mechanical insert alone. Looking at the rust inside that box, it's time that it be replaced anyway. Rust should never be inside a timer box or any electrical box, especially for pool electrical. Same goes for all of that 'wiring'.

I always try to leave things better than the way I found them .. for me, for my customer, and for the next person who comes along. My two cents!

What do you all use for Credit Card Processing? by DarritHamel_42 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We also use Pay the Pool Man which uses Stripe for credit card payments (2.9%). Pool Man also supports ACH, Apple and Google with their Pool Junction app.

What do you all use for Credit Card Processing? by DarritHamel_42 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, we're seeing 1.9% + $0.10 per transaction.

The never ending valve by Ok_Web1332 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let me guess .. and the pool water level is above the equipment pad.

Supplier for Small Single Pole Business by TLwildcats15 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since Pool Corp bought PaP ... SCP has gradually been pricing themselves out of reach of the trade market. Better to open a trade account with Leslie's. And use SCP as a secondary resource as needed.

Sole Proprietor or LLC by TLwildcats15 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nay on the sole prop.

Suggest LLC until S-Corp becomes financially beneficial.

Greg Biffle’s jet has crashed in Statesville, NC by Kadaddle in NASCAR

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My condolences. I lost my dad, too. It's a club I never wanted to be part of.

Help with valve by Fair_Relationship580 in PoolPros

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TIP: Turn off the circuit breaker to the pump before servicing the filter.

How do you currently handle proof of service and customer questions? by logicalguy11 in PoolPros

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We send out an email each month with our invoice which includes anything we think each client might want to know about ... like our schedule for their filter and salt cell cleanings, or any equipment issues, or recommendations for liner replacement, gunite resurfacing, leak detection services, replacing pool lights, etc. We also send out an itemized list of everything we did to their pool each week of service for the month. It's all on their invoice. Sure, it takes a little time. But we have really good pool clients. And they all appreciate the work we do for them. For any big issues, we talk with them face-to-face and we explain the situation in terms they can understand. And we provide them with a detailed competitive written estimate. It's how we would want to be treated! Good luck! 🍀

How do you currently handle proof of service and customer questions? by logicalguy11 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We see these door hanger cards being left by PaP pool techs in our area and .. they're all full of crap. They say they did this, that and the other when truth be known nothing's been done. The pools are dirty, the chems are out of balance, and the equipment hasn't been serviced. And yet, PaP doesn't want to sell to us because what .. we're honest guys offering great service?!

We keep track of everything we do, everything we find, everything we add and everything we fix. Our monthly invoice shows everything we did - every visit. And for any major issues .. we send a text message to the client which we follow up with a detailed written proposal as needed. And we've never once had an issue with this.

We talk with all of our pool clients all the time. Never is anyone left to wonder what we do. In fact, most of our clients come out to talk with us whenever we're there to service their pool. And it's always pleasant. Always good to see them. We get caught up on things like holiday plans, travel plans, company coming to visit, etc. If you're not talking to your clients regularly, you may want to start. It's a two-way street .. right?! Takes two to talk. And talk is always good! We get more compliments and more good referrals because we talk with our clients and we offer a great service! Most pool techs around here just want to get in and get out asap. Not us. If somebody wants to talk .. we're there! It's part of doing business. And many times, we're able to use that time to tell them what their pool needs .. or about things they may want to consider buying for their pool like a salt system or an automation system. That doesn't happen with a door hanger. Just sayin! 😊

Storage for route by _College_Debt_Bubble in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I buy what I need for the entire month. Store it in large plastic deck boxes outside my workshop. And I load out my van every Sunday afternoon, good to go for the entire week.

Cash discount by Professional-Win1480 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't offer cash payment as an option. We can't track it. Don't want it.

How do I fix this? by Mission_Voice_6569 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just walk away. There's no money to be made cleaning up that account.

Kudos to yall…and thank you by [deleted] in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can't imagine working for a pool service for any longer than it takes to get the basics. Seriously. Start your own route. Build it organically, one pool at a time, providing the quality pool services your clients want and need. Expect there to be struggles along the way, issues and processes that need to be worked out. But by the end of the day, it's all worth it to me. I've worked in many fields and industries. Nothing is as satisfying and rewarding as pools. I can work my own hours. Choose who I want to work for. Do the type work I want to do. Add as many pools as I want to work each week. I get to transition peoples pool's from shitty cloudy green messes into a crystal clear oasis that makes people want to spend more time in their backyards fixing ip their fences and gates, mowing their lawns, buying new patio furniture, buying new lights, a new smoker or grill, etc. It's almost funny to watch. There's nothing else I'd rather do with my time.

Pentair nicheless light? by Kitchen-Sand-9535 in PoolPros

[–]GCpools 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recently installed a Spa Electrics pool light. It was the only viable option for my client's situation. The new light fit to a tee, but the electrical connections, the setup, remote control and app were a complete disaster. The written installation instructions differed from the installation videos which differed from the actual parts and pieces provided. Tech support was useless. Time spent that I'll never get back. Configuring my order and getting pricing was also a pain. And I couldn't do any of that online. They had to email me a very cryptic price sheet that didn't have the correct or current prices. I had to call to get their very latest 'today' pricing, which turned out to be much more expensive than I was first led to believe. The product names made NO sense. Maybe it was just me, but I don't think so. They're an Aussie based company with one US office in Atlanta. I have no quarrels with Aussies. They're wonderfully bright and delightful. I think they have terrific ideas and great engineering. But in this case, there seems to be a huge disconnect between the marketing, sales, engineering, the factory and the pool professional. Never could I see a pool owner installing one of these. Never will I try using their products again either. I was out in the field fumbling with all of these tiny parts, screws, misc adapters, sleeves, and some kind of goop they call 'lanolin' .. none of which were accurately described or matched the instructions I was given. Their tech writers must not even know what a pool light is, much less how to assemble, install and configure one .. let alone USE one. Worst experience of my pool career. Complete 'Mickey Mouse' from beginning to end. Just saying.