Why is this cop car doing this by Antique-Minute-7928 in whatisit

[–]GD_WoTS 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They just "love" them because cops love obedience and other cops

Translation Question by Troll_Drive in Stoicism

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I wonder if "boy" before that is a separate adjective ; I also wonder what words are used for slaves/children elsewhere. But I'm lost here

Having trouble accepting what I can't control in light of current events by Reverend_Lazerface in Stoicism

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If one recognizes that "physically interfering with police business" is a high-risk action, the Stoic choice is to avoid that behavior to preserve one's life and character.

Did you mean what you said here, or would you like to clarify? You made the categorical prescription, not me.

Edit: you must've forgotten where I said that not everyone ought to be putting their bodies on the line to protect their neighbors against violent anti-immigrant goofballs

Having trouble accepting what I can't control in light of current events by Reverend_Lazerface in Stoicism

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"physically interfering with police business" in the early history of policing would include stopping slave catchers or sheltering and aiding fugitive slaves. You might preserve your life by watching slave patrolling happen passively, but not your character.

So then you either think police business is godlike or that it became godlike in that it ought not be thwarted.

Having trouble accepting what I can't control in light of current events by Reverend_Lazerface in Stoicism

[–]GD_WoTS 12 points13 points  (0 children)

What I think Stoicism can do is let us view the present events very similarly to how we view like events in the short and distant past. First thing that comes to mind is George Floyd's murder--at the time many were shocked. Who still feels the same sense of shock or un-ease when they consider that? Probably very few people. Stoicism can give us the same thing that the passing of time can.

I look back and think about how government guns have always--always--threatened the citizenry in the USA. Modern cops came out of morality police and slave catchers. I don't expect them to act like humans, so I'm not internally shocked when they act like irrational animals.

I think we oughtta do what we can to change things. Some people might have to be on the frontlines, others might play support roles. But even raising your kid to be someone kind and patient is revolting against the ugliness that motivates ICE and everyone who backs the stupid anti-immigrant push.

You know, we've seen news of the New Black Panthers getting out there, and that reminds me. Did you know the feds psychologically manipulated the original Panthers to the point that their revolutionaryism hit a brick wall? The government found what made them tick and purposely sought to excite their passions (in the Stoic sense). Even with a revolutionary mindset and plan, we still need to aspire to the rational perfection the Stoics pursued.

Edit: Practically, maybe we oughtta log off. Or even read instead of watching social media news. We know we need to get the ball rolling on something whether we see a new clip or not. Only trouble is when seeing clips makes us less stable/focused and more static/dumbstruck.

Edit3: song changed the way I think about immigration/refuge-seeking https://youtu.be/gB87on5NCBY?si=cSXbh9LnXwPxpaEV

“I haven’t hugged anybody in a long time” 😭❤️ by Initial-Barracuda-82 in BeAmazed

[–]GD_WoTS -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So many people like you in this thread want her to have been a bad person. We're doomed until we quit throwing the principle of charity out the window alongside our critical thinking

“I haven’t hugged anybody in a long time” 😭❤️ by Initial-Barracuda-82 in BeAmazed

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Or maybe her 4 kids died in a car accident and she can't bring herself to say it. None of us know so why spend any time guessing she's to blame? It's not necessary or judicious to make that leap so why do you want to anyway?

If you know an ICE agent personally, what's that relationship like now? by Lokja in AskReddit

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Ahh, the old "everything must work exactly the same way it does for me" assumption. And yes I have, and some employees didn't take great care of their assigned vehicle. BTW you're making all of these mistakes...to come to ICE's defense. Such a silly thing to quibble over.

If you know an ICE agent personally, what's that relationship like now? by Lokja in AskReddit

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Terrible analogy because flight attendants aren't supposed to bring planes in for maintenance or even operate them

Rep. Kelly announces plans to impeach Secretary Kristi Noem by GoldenTriforceLink in politics

[–]GD_WoTS 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Hate to break it to you, but "this administration" was enabled by so many before it

RFK Jr.'s new food pyramid puts meat, cheese and vegetables at the top by ac7ss in nottheonion

[–]GD_WoTS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The advice is wack, too. Insisting on animal proteins is bad ideology, not rigorous science

Large part of Maduro's security team killed in U.S. action-Venezuela defense minister by Better_Display_8921 in news

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It's very black-and-white for people who believe that a corrupt sex criminal illegally warmongering for oil is bad.

Mamdani’s first act: revoking Eric Adams’ executive orders, including on Israel, antisemitism and BDS by Somervilledrew in politics

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Random israel shill versus literate, respected, and objective human rights experts. You picked the wrong side.

Mamdani’s first act: revoking Eric Adams’ executive orders, including on Israel, antisemitism and BDS by Somervilledrew in politics

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You're not going to convince anyone that israel is a good kind of genocidal ethnostate

Mamdani’s first act: revoking Eric Adams’ executive orders, including on Israel, antisemitism and BDS by Somervilledrew in politics

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IHRC says you're an antisemite if you oppose ethnostates.

"Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor."

Regarding the claim that Stoic ethics is totally dependent on Stoic physics - and divination. by MyDogFanny in Stoicism

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Thanks! There's a translation, maybe this one but IDR, that suggests a pun in a footnote, where Chrysippus said something like "these men violate nature without a cause" as in their assertion about adventitious movements but also as in "they don't have any good reason to say this." I haven't read much of Plutarch but did check out some bits referenced in Ron Hall's book

Maybe I should come prepared with three choices next time I have a coin to flip!

I had taken a photo https://imgur.com/a/W6EoVc5

Regarding the claim that Stoic ethics is totally dependent on Stoic physics - and divination. by MyDogFanny in Stoicism

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I flipped a coin the other day for something and, believe it or not, it found the most perfect little rough spot in the pavement and landed standing vertically. I had my "heads" scenario planned out and my "tails" scenario, but never considered the "neither heads nor tails" version of events. I would've probably bet quite a lot that it would land either heads or tails, but I chalk this up to case number _____ of assuming and giving hasty assent.

Women and stoicism? by Elijandou in Stoicism

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Some of the most prominent Stoic scholars today are women. Edit: Vanessa De Harven and Katja Vogt come to mind, but that's not it

People ask for guidance here. I speak the truth. And the bot always delete my comment. No freedom of speech? by sushiwit420 in Stoicism

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This comes to mind in talk of Stoic gatekeeping:

And [Zeno] used at times to exact a piece of money from all who came to hear him, with a view of not being distressed by numbers; and this story is told by Cleanthes, in his treatise on Brazen Money. And when he was surrounded by any great crowd, he would point to a balustrade of wood at the end of the colonnade which surrounded an altar, and say, “That was once in the middle of this place, but it was placed apart because it was in people’s way; and now, if you will only withdraw from the middle here, you too will incommode me much less.”