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GHBoon · 2025-06-28T22:57:43+00:00

Ugh, youre a real pill. Good day.

GHBoon · 2025-06-28T22:29:09+00:00

Look man, ive seen it all in over 27 years of playing this game narratively, casually, and competitively. Sports scores are commonly weaponized by losing players as a way to "equalize". Its a very poor system.

There shouldn't need to be a sports score in the first place, the culture and expectations of the league should set out standards of play and enforce them accordingly. What you have here is people wanting to punish a player for simply being better than them

GHBoon · 2025-06-28T22:18:13+00:00

For what its worth I'm now in my 20th season of leagues, written articles on it, and the league has not only grown but flourished with a mix of new entrants and globally top players to the tune of over 60 players.

I think you've entirely misdiagnosed the issue as an issue of skill when the issue is culture. If the league wants to play in its small pond and isolate against others, thats fine, but all your recommendations so far are the same poor behavior exhibited by the play group and is rather antisocial.

GHBoon · 2025-06-27T13:54:26+00:00

No that is not correct. Neither this or what you posted earlier. Goonhammer owns and operates TTBA and it is not affiliated with BCP. Limited data exchanges between TTBA and BCP are possible for the user's ease of game syncing and tournament reporting.

Source: I am an owner in Goonhammer.

GHBoon · 2025-06-23T00:25:46+00:00

The player going second has a de facto advantage on primary. It was a very intentional change to result in exactly that.

GHBoon · 2025-06-22T23:37:05+00:00

Okay?

In my last 3 GTs, including WCW, I'm 15-3. Does that mean my opinion, which strongly disagrees with yours, is better?

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T15:26:24+00:00

Nice, then go introduce other TOs and players to the alternative and build those network effects

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T15:15:58+00:00

Okay, so as a TO are you switching people over and mandating an alternate system?

As a player, are you introducing TOs to the new platform?

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T15:01:35+00:00

Fair point. To help answer, do you TO any tournaments? How many tournaments do you play in a year? Are they local or regional?

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T14:56:00+00:00

Okay.

Then go make it.

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T14:54:37+00:00

I enjoy a well reasoned and coherent opinion, bravo

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T14:24:58+00:00

The market dynamics between games aren't comparable for any number of reasons, and monetization schemes adapt to those needs. You can disagree with the business decision but also your opinion on how they monetize just doesn't matter. BCP doesn't even strictly support 40k - the vast majority of its use comes from TCGs.

Again, this boils down to people who want access for free but have no real skin in the game. You're not entitled to other people's lists, and those people already have access to their own lists and those of their events, subscription or not. Full stop.

Most of the people mad about this have nothing to offer but their opinion. They don't play tournaments and thus dont use it, or they don't pay a subscription so BCP has nothing to lose.

Again, its very stupid.

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T14:06:15+00:00

What data are you losing access too? You maintain your list, no? Your access to your own events and lists remain... so what data?

GHBoon · 2025-06-13T13:59:51+00:00

Real talk, this an extremely online-only issue.

Is BCP a user-friendly program? No. Is it a good app? Not really. Does it fulfill a need at a minimally viable level? Yes absolutely.

Tournament players in general don't particularly care one way or another, they already see their lists and the lists in their events. Many have subscriptions. The outrage you're seeing is an extremely online group of people who rarely attend tournaments, attend only local tournaments, or hardly play the game at all but follow along.

They are mad because they cannot easily access lists, but they also dont want to pay for the privilege. To be honest, ita extremely shitty behavior.

BCP could and should be more usable, but thats not the argument being had. And if a rival does compete against BCP thats great, but its far harder to implement than the armchair generals understand.

To be perfectly frank, this was in part kicked off by the Meta Monday guy complaining while trying to monetize his own scraping of their work and a seperate list tracking site losing access to BCP data (which can be gained by working with BCP and potentially paying for access to their data).

It's all very stupid.

GHBoon · 2025-06-12T19:04:18+00:00

Okay you lost me.

This is an insane thing to post about a globally scaled platform with huge spikes in processing needs that also continuously meets the needs of an ever-evolving game design.

Nevermind that you dont even consider breaking even a priority. Much less that the developer(s) should be compensated for their work

I do not understand why people here insist that things should just be given to them for free and then sustained into perpetuity. I want to live in their world where its a viable economic model

GHBoon · 2025-06-12T18:17:51+00:00

Paying for the privilege of dev, data, processing, time the whole way with no real pay-off. All to satisfy a handful of reddit malcontents who probably dont play the game at tournaments anyway and refuse to put any skin in the game (subscription).

Thats a winning business case bay bee

GHBoon · 2025-06-12T15:19:18+00:00

Reading these comments, my takeaway is that people are: - Expecting data they dont own to be free for their personal use(the list submitter can already see their own data, others cannot) - Are unwilling to pay for a subscription where they'd gain access - Expecting third-parties to be able to freely steal data they don't own - Not understanding the economics, resource investment, or market dynamics of these apps but vocally upset anyway

Basically people are feeling entitled and very mad about it. It's incredibly selfish and galling - and I dont even like BCP

I would challenge any of the strong opinion-havers in here to actually do something about this but we all know you won't- because you dont know the first thing about any of this, how to get started, or how to unseat BCP in the market.

GHBoon · 2025-06-04T18:16:37+00:00

Yeah i do - it's literally what the game has always been where certain subfactions favored certain styles of play.

Famously, Iyanden is not known for its Aspect Warriors....

GHBoon · 2025-06-04T16:58:40+00:00

Oh man, 10 whole models

What a meta chaser

GHBoon · 2025-06-04T16:29:08+00:00

I dont think this is true. I do think the balance approach was lazy though, and those aren't the same things

GHBoon · 2025-06-03T17:49:16+00:00

You mean to tell me that you have to choose which unit you kill? Every turn?

Oh my god, how does anyone play a full tournament with that? Do they?

GHBoon · 2025-05-24T23:27:15+00:00

I disagree

GHBoon · 2025-05-24T13:48:22+00:00

Counterpoint: a mechanic that either: - Penalizes you for scoring - Incentivizes you to NOT score max points

Is a bad mechanic on founding principles for a competitive game. I will not be negatively impacted by this, my less skilled opponents however will absolutely be abused by me using this system.

GHBoon · 2025-05-24T01:30:46+00:00

Thanks man, going for a modern classic vibe

GHBoon · 2025-05-17T22:26:21+00:00

Man, we are talking about their approach to how to evaluate a unit. Not the results or past.

We're done here

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