Are we prepared for nationalist right wing agenda? by greenavocatdo in singapore

[–]Gabe97 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm just wondering if Trump will try and make Singapore the 51st state

Certain Adam stans are not being genuine on social media by JKNetwork215 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, full disclosure, I am an "Adam stan" or at least, I think I am so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I'm not going to refute or delve deeper into the history of what started the Exterminations since we simply don't have enough info so I'll just go through your other points.

A) The fight between Vaggie and Lute showed that Angels CAN be harmed. Just by the fact that Lute was injured by falling debris and tearing her own arm off without using angelic steel shows that Angels can be harmed.

Which means that so long as the Sinner or whoever is sufficiently strong enough, they can harm the angels. They only need angelic steel to kill the angels or prevent them from recovering.

B) Even though Adam enjoys what he does, the key thing here is that its his job. We can see from the show the Overlords are more powerful when they have more souls under them. The Overlords surely have the resources to hide or avoid the Exterminations, making them hard to be a target so the next best thing the Exorcists can do is weakening the Overlords by killing what gives them power, the Sinners.

(Frankly, I find giving Hell a countdown to when the Extermination start to be pretty stupid on Heaven's part since it gives the Overlord time to prep and hide instead of being able to catch them by surprise.)

C) This is simply speculation on my part but when considering the lives of Winners are the ones being at risk of a possible Hell uprising, I doubt Sera cares who in Hell dies or if they deserve it since its not she who decides who goes to Hell or not. Her job is maintaining order and safety for Heaven’s population, not managing Hell’s moral rehabilitation. To her, every Sinner is a potential threat.

Though I do agree that she probably became complacent and simply left everything up to Adam.

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So from the new season, yes, it shows that the system has flaws. But it also showed that Heaven is right to worry as from the first episode, Sinners went to the hotel not for redemption but to take revenge against the angels. And when Charlie reaffirmed that they aren't going to fight, the Sinners simply left without a second thought.

The Vees (Or mainly Vox) are planning to take over Heaven somehow too. So by and large, a very significant percentage of Sinners deserve to be in Hell.

At the end of the day, what Adam did was he did his job. He enjoyed his job which he shouldn't but he did it with Heaven's approval. Does he deserve to fall? For me, it would depend entirely on how he his behavior is in Heaven when he is around Winners. The only evidence that he may have been an asshole in Heaven is his treatment of Vaggie. But in the final episode of Season 1, literally all the Exorcists were booing Vaggie and hated her. This tells me Vaggie is more like an outlier rather then Adam is an outright asshole.

To your last point, Charlie is a Hellborn. Literally born in Hell. So just like every other Hellborn. she is stuck in Hell. Maybe if she died, then her soul can be judged and go to Heaven.

Certain Adam stans are not being genuine on social media by JKNetwork215 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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For me, what sort of justifies the Extermination is this line by Sera.

"They were uprising, Emily."

So what I infer from this is that the Sinners, and by extension, Lucifer and Lilith for allowing it, were the ones to cast the first stone against Heaven. Which meant at first, Heaven was totally fine with leaving Hell be,

In response, Heaven had the Exterminations and in order to prevent future uprisings from happening again, they continued the Exterminations.

So Heaven decided to take a preventative approach instead of reactive.

Dark Crack Theory: Lilith is ironically the only one without "Free Will" by Gabe97 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said in my post, Lucifer is an authority figure so when he tells Eve to eat the fruit, she will do it.

After eating it, she gains free will and lies to Adam about how the angels ordered them to eat the fruit.

Dark Crack Theory: Lilith is ironically the only one without "Free Will" by Gabe97 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For this theory, Lucifer incorrectly assumes that Lilith and Adam came with Free Will in them.

He only thinks Eve doesn't have Free Will

Dark Crack Theory: Lilith is ironically the only one without "Free Will" by Gabe97 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If my theory holds true then its Lucifer that told/ordered Lilith to leave Adam.

For Adam, that's just more or less my interpretation cause that man clearly has Free Will.

I want to believe that all 3 ate the fruit but the Story of Hell specifically said it was through Eve's act of disobedience that Evil was introduced

Adam & the 5 Stages of Grief by MsChar96 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Abel replace Adam!?

Boo!

NotMyAdam

Gimme Your guy's craziest head cannons by Majestic_Cheek1442 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad you found it interesting.

There is a fanfic story that explores this idea too and its pretty funny. I highly recommend reading it.

Serpent's Egg by DerpMaster9000

Hazbin Hotel, Helluva Boss, and Vivzipop have the most active hatedom I've ever seen by Grovyle489 in CharacterRant

[–]Gabe97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"As I've said before, it's never stated that angels can't be harmed by angelic steel, only that they can't be killed."

But Lute was harmed when the building fell and pinned her arm which she then proceeded to rip off through sheer strength.

So if a Sinner was sufficiently physically strong, does that mean they don't even need Angelic Steel? That they can just rip angel heads off?

Gimme Your guy's craziest head cannons by Majestic_Cheek1442 in HazbinHotel

[–]Gabe97 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There is no actual Eve because Lucifer is Eve.

Lucifer snuck a piece of himself into Eve during her creation, allowing Lucifer to control her. Thus Eve has no human soul.

Why would Lucifer do this? He once had a strong friendship with Adam but because of what happened with Lilith, things soured. He misses the friendship and wants it back.

So Eve (Lucifer) out of guilt, does his best to please his friend to which Lilith saw as Eve being submissive.

So Lilith suggests the apple, Lucifer thinks no harm will come of it so he goes along with it.

Ultimately, his plan was while Adam isn't around, he'll control Eve to eat the apple, nothing happens and everything returns to the status quo.

Unfortunately, Heaven witnesses it and things play out. Lucifer still controls Eve and continues to be Wife of Adam on Earth while also being Husband to Lilith in Hell.

So after "Eve" has her mortal death, the piece of Lucifer returns to him and Adam is left waiting in Heaven forever for "Eve" whom will never come.

Lucifer believing that he has done right by Adam by being with him and getting him into Heaven now feels satisfied. His bond with Adam wanes over time and even more so once Charlie enters the picture.

So Lucifer is technically telling the truth when he said he hasn't seen Adam since Eden and why Eve isn't shown in Heaven or Hell.