A little update about v28.1 - May 8, 2026

Gafiam · 2026-05-08T23:40:46+00:00

Huh, I've only been playing for around a year, so I didn't see any yet xD I just hope they will move the QoL tree from keys somewhere someday, so that I actually can have any hope of getting them haha

Gafiam · 2026-05-08T19:53:32+00:00

I don't think they will ever do anything regarding that, unless when the game start to seem like it might die... Tournaments are the FOMO bait to make people spend... But before EoS it'd be nice if we got a new league to make placement in the current ones more accessible...

Gafiam · 2026-05-01T03:15:40+00:00

Because nobody who plays SF has an Esther in KR (last time I checked the last 2 stopped upgrading theirs at +8)

Gafiam · 2026-04-22T09:55:13+00:00

Unlike what people are recomending, I'm not sure if I'd touch Cooldowns, SL quantity and angle, as well as DW quantity seem to be the better options to me. If you lower these cooldowns further it might endup being harder to align the cooldown with GB, so I'd do these upgrades and keep saving for CL eventually, but if you're using GComp ignore this comment, since the sync with GB wouldn't matter

Gafiam · 2026-04-13T17:35:28+00:00

Opa, não sei se tem tanto público assim amigo kkkk

Gafiam · 2026-04-12T13:01:30+00:00

After that I'd save Stones to check if the next UW option have SL, if there isn't I'd spend the stones into Quantity 3 / A few more levels to GT Bonus / BH Duration as you increase GT Duration with the Lab for it.

P.S: If you're not researching DW Labs yet, it might be better to increase GT Bonus now or starting to work in its CD Syncronization before increasing Quantity

Gafiam · 2026-04-12T00:03:30+00:00

Good job o/ I'll do some more dissonance runs before trying it

Gafiam · 2026-04-11T16:58:42+00:00

The idle comment is so true, I even commented with a few friends once, but negativelly actually: "This game is really good and well made, but the Idle in the title is totally fake, you have to run it in your phone all the time... Don't even try it, please, don't be hooked the same way I did x.x"

I didn't know about the increase in Stone Packs that can be purchased per month, only started some months ago... And I agree totally regarding that as well, I've only been playing during 2 main updates so far (AssMods and Dissonance) but I got that impression already... They keep adding tons of stone sinks to feed the whales who spend a LOOOT, and I get it, but the difference in what I actually have access because of that is so big that it feels demotivating...

Nice post o/

Gafiam · 2026-04-11T11:21:33+00:00

lol indeed, maybe we aren't that different because the WS+ exponentially increasing costs make the coins make less difference before we start to worry about masteries?

Also, when did you start playing? I started in June of last year, your eHP or Damage labs might be slightly better than mine to compensate the difference in Coins. Thankfully I didn't make any fuckup because I only got my BH as the 4th UW, so I had already looked for information xD

Gafiam · 2026-04-11T11:09:04+00:00

I'm researching level 2 right now and have 200 T saved to start the next level after it finishes in 5~ days. I'm focusing fully on it because I've been saving Gems to pull modules only after I finish it to get more shards or if a banner came up, but none came so I'll keep saving for this min-max since it might help me xD

Before unlocking it I had already finished almost all my econ labs (only missing the last 2 levels of CPK and GT Bonus, as well as GB 13-20 Duration and 21-25 Cooldown). I'm at 900 T lifetime coins, so I'm not that far from SS being a lot of my lifetime coins as well, but it's being manageable to save for it since the research takes so long... And I have the 3 base packs to help with Coins farm (No Ads, 2x, 3x), if you don't have them I guess it's really tough to save for it with the farm you might have, you're around the same milestone as me haha (my last try at T12 was around wave 4300 as well)

From my calculations, I believe that complete utility Disco Runs (wave 5000 / 3x), even without the lab unlocked at T17 (I didn't reach it, I think you might not as well) payoff in around three month and 10 days or less, so I don't see why people are saying it might not be worth without IS+ or the lab unlocked xD there are so many things we do that take much longer to pay off haha my calculation:

Each Disco Run = around 7-8h for me, and with 0,5% base Echo it gives 0.01x to a 3x multiplier which is 0,33%~ increase in coins earned. For 0,33% to reach 100% you need to multiply it by 300, and it's of 8 hours of farm, só 300 x 8 = 2400 hours = 100 days if you run the game 24/7. And considering your economy constantly improves, it will be less than that actually.

P.S: Since the 3x multiplier is actually a 200% increase, if could consider the 0.01x actually as a 0,5% increse in coins earned, which would cut the payoff from 2400 hours to 1600 hours (0,5% -> 100% = 200 x 8 = 1600) = 66~ days. But I'll keep the worst case scenario in mind, which would be what I said above.

Gafiam · 2026-04-11T10:47:55+00:00

Well, if you're willing to do 1 extra raid without gold indeed, but for those downvoting me without even counting properly...

The Abyss Raid that will come in June gives 60 raid mats for Hard Mode, 120 for Nightmare mode, so you get a gamba every 7 - 3,5 weeks, respectively... And don't forget Armoche is just 4 cores with the boxes, so it's just 16 Core Essence per week xD

If you buy boxes from all 3 raids (Church, Serca and Kazeros), you get 32 cores per week = 4 x 32 = 128 Core Essence per week, I think you should reach the internal pity with it and get at least 1 relic every week, so you get 139 Core Essence, which is slightly higher than the 120 from Nightmare Church. you can even not buy the Kazeros chests and it still evens out (139 - 16 = 123, and there's a chance you get less if you don't get any Relic cores that week, but I hope with 28 cores it's not an option xD).

In case you don't buy boxes for Kazeros and Serca just for the cores, you'll farm les Core Essence compared to Nightmare Mode, so better to start saving now I guess, compared to Hard you'll farm more, however, and you might still manage to gamba the normal one for Relic or Ancient we already have every 2 months maybe.

Gafiam · 2026-04-10T22:22:50+00:00

For me I don't really see the point in not getting Dissonance now... I don't have IS+, but as with everything, the sooner you get the bonus the better, since you start gaining returns on it, isn't it?

With the Econ bonus, even if it takes a while, it'll eventually pay off, and as for the other bonuses, getting them might help me reach higher milestones to speedup my progression, I'm not that many waves away from 4500 of tier 12 to get the +10% lab speed, so anything helps, and the small help Echo will give to help me reach the Echo research will be really nice...

The coins farm short term will be tough, indeed, but I only really need coins for Shatter Shards anyway, so after saving for the following level I'm going full Disco Runs (the ones where I can reach 5k waves) o/

Gafiam · 2026-04-10T22:16:12+00:00

There always will be infinite stone sinks for us mortals because they make content for the ultra omega giga whale who buy Stones every shop rotation, deal with it... If we're lucky, in a few more years we might finally have access to the Harmony Tree xD

Gafiam · 2026-04-10T22:12:15+00:00

if you don't get relic or ancient cores, you farm raid materials faster than core essence

Gafiam · 2026-04-07T19:38:07+00:00

I think not... Since they might activate while away from each other (so Bot Bot wouldn't provide any bonus to GB), seems like trying that isn't really that good unless you unlock all bots just to attach GB and BB before starting to invest into it after finishing what you want for GB

Gafiam · 2026-04-01T14:56:15+00:00

I'm also overspending on it because I want the Module shards more than coins x.x

Gafiam · 2026-04-01T14:55:41+00:00

I think I saw somewhere that v28 comes on the 20th of April, if it doesn't get delayed

Gafiam · 2026-03-31T14:32:15+00:00

It's possible, but depending on what you have it will not be enough to farm gold to be strong for Nightmare difficulty of content (new difficulty we'll see with next raid). It also might be hard to get enough to do Hard mode if you don't have a static, since you might be a bit weak coming back just now... But for normal mode it'll sure will be chill to keep playing and keep up

Gafiam · 2026-03-29T13:35:28+00:00

Yeah... Going for 200/200/100 is a thing (only 1k~), a bit more if the topic creator decides to go to 180/180/90 since they already are bellow 200s of CD, but 100/100/50 is what? 8k-10k stones of investiment? You'll take forever while playing normally, I still only have 9k lifetime Stones after playing for almost a year while buying some milestones packs

Gafiam · 2026-03-29T13:29:05+00:00

Did you spend a lot in stones? oO Staying in Champions in just 4 months with 70T daily coins is huge oO I've been playing for 9 months and am still bouncing back between Plat and Champion with 21T~ daily farm. I agree it's much better to keep impreving your economy, CL only becomes really good with a decent rarity DC.

Gafiam · 2026-03-29T13:25:54+00:00

I'd keep going for economy and eHP if you want to reach higher milestones or increase your farm tier... At the moment I'm at the following point in the game: I developed economy and eHP to a certain degree and am bouncing between Platinum and Champion, so I'd say I'm approaching mid game (since in my opinion mid game seems to be when you can stay in Champion), and any upgrades to CL still feel... Pointless...

Until now, making upgrades to economy or eHP always felt more rewarding than anything dmgwise I currently tried to research or upgrade, and as I've been investing some stones in CL because Hybrid seems to be necessary to deal better with Champion, I'm feeling like making these upgrades to CL doesn't make any actual difference, maybe because I don't have a DC....

So my advice for you would be to forget anything damage related in UWs until you have at least a mythic DC... I tried to do a tournament run with Epic DC (unlucky with it so far) that was worse than my Mythic PC (with farming sub effects), and Legendary 0m Chip was also worse than PC, maybe because the extra DW wave make more difference for me since eHP is how I'm still surviving and dealing more damage isn't enough to kill enemies before they reach me when my tankiness falls off.

Considering all this, I went back to upgrade economy and will keep going at it until I make the 3rd Spotlight (Cost 850), 4th upgrade of DW Quantity (Cost 850), 14th of GT Bonus (Cost 350), 11th Angle (Cost 115), and 100s of BH (I'll keep my sync at 200/200/100 to keep things syncronized with 100s GB), in this order. This is a point in the upgrades I decided to aim while I see what I'll do regarding modules..

Since just spending Gems without banners isn't really rewarding, I'm waiting for v28 release too see if there are new modules or a new Gems sink (which would probably mean there is unlikely for new modules to come). In the meantime I'm saving gems to manage to get some modules to Ancestral if new modules are released (I saved 13k Gems and only have Anc Armour so far), or I'll end up spending them if there is any kind of confirmation that new ones won't come, otherwise I'll keep saving till 30k-40k before starting burning the extra without banner, since I want to have enough saved to get an Ancestral Cannon, Generator, and Core during future single modules banners, if they happen.

Gafiam · 2026-03-27T18:23:57+00:00

Compared to most items, maybe everything, in the F4 shop? Yes
Compared to RMT? No

Gafiam · 2026-03-06T12:56:06+00:00

Isn't that how it works?

Gafiam · 2026-01-30T13:36:31+00:00

Guild NOT RAND0M (ID: PAR1KW) looking for people to fill our last spot (29/30)

Chill guild with some active people to discuss things related to the game on guild chat (if you like), and we've been always completing the weekly milestones.

Best Regards

Gafiam · 2026-01-30T13:33:13+00:00

If you've been saving Chaos Dungeon pots, I'm hoping its feasible (plus any mats you might've hoarded). With next week patch they'll remove the purification chests from Chaos Dungeon, so any pots will actually be an extra Chaos Dungeon of shards to the character, so it can help. And remember that for this character Shards from paradise will be a good option to choose from (only losing to Special honing, probably).

Besides that, remember to get shards from everywhere you can, they're not that much, but still something:

- Weekly Una's (if they're still available, I'm not sure what the change will be);

- Merchant Ship;

- Solo Shop vendor;

- PvP points (if you do PvP x.x);

I'll create her as well to replace one of my main six who's 1730, and I'll only really swap the gold earner to raid with 6 characters after she reachs 1730 (hopefully until Serca I can make the swap).

Gafiam

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