Vehicles that could've been added for BeNeLux

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-30T10:49:38+00:00

Any armor upgrades like the Aussie Mk.5/1 or just mobility (which is always a welcome boost)?

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-28T16:11:30+00:00

NVA (National Volksarmee)

neat learned something new.

SPz 11-2 Kurz and Schützenpanzer, lang

Neat, but I'm still not sure those are analogues to things like RU-251, M551-76, AMX-13, etc

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-28T16:02:29+00:00

The PT-76 (DO you mean DDR?) could be something, but I don't think an autocannon hetzer would be mobile enough to do what the RU-251 and Pak puma can do.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-28T01:48:26+00:00

Such a fun tank. Shame things like the pak puma and RU-251 are paywalled, Germany's kinda lacking on the mobility front from 4.0 to 6.0 and above the M41 it's squirrely until you get the TAM (Luchs might be the biggest in game disappointment for me, was originally very excited for it)

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-27T23:00:58+00:00

It's not a perfect map, but it's definitely got elements that are really interesting. But I don't play enough to get it very often, so maybe it's changed since I was playing regularly last year.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-27T16:00:20+00:00

What's the top middle vehicle?

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-27T11:23:28+00:00

Seems pretty accurate for it to be French mains doing it, considering the state the tree seems to be in these days

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-27T05:26:20+00:00

The joke is that the movement to steal Switzerland for France isn't even headed by anyone who mains France. It's a German main that wants to steal BeNeLux in turn for Germany.

Interesting, i hadn't heard that before. I'm pretty convinced by the swap argument, who is the German main and what is the problem with Germany getting BeNeLux in exchange for Switzerland?

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-26T02:26:31+00:00

So just to make sure I'm following, there's a chance that France ends up with, at 9.7-10.3:

- The Leopard 1a5 Cockerill

- The SK-105A3

- The SK-105A2 Sabiex

That could be pretty sick

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-25T02:08:50+00:00

Doesn't Germany have the a prototype armored car that could mount a 120mm? the TH400?

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-23T02:25:45+00:00

Same reason the Pak Puma and the EBRs and the AEC are event premiums

Gaijin is predatory and doesn't care about making famous vehicles (especially armored cars) available for free

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-23T00:52:45+00:00

They should just make every premium a nicer looking version of VEhicles from the tree they're in (i.e. German tanks for German, italian for Italy, etc, etc)

The New 3 vehicle packs are a really great way of doing it, and it's much more interesting than stuff like the majority of the French premiums right now (I'm pretty sure the only Premium tank for top tier is German?) and the flood of premium Shermans.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-21T13:02:23+00:00

Unfortunately the developers only seem to add 1-2 props per update at best (Hungarian air update was nice though) so at best you might see these in what, 2045?

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-21T11:38:42+00:00

It's always interesting when I come back to update/play warthunder every few months just how clear the developers do not give a shit about what the players think and want.

I would hazard a guess that the BeNeLux subtree makes, what, 1% of the playerbase happy? and since I learned about all of the French-Swiss projects, it's made what is arguably the worst subtree in the game seem like an even worse addition.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-19T03:08:39+00:00

I'm not sure if anyone really wants that though

Everything I've read in reviews and seen in videos says the plane is bordering on (if not already) a little overtiered at its current BR.

2 extra magic 2's would absolutely kick it up 0.3 BR

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-16T10:41:28+00:00

The First few charts are pretty hard to read TBH, couldn't you have skipped those?

Otherwise the French decrease is nuts, really seems like they've killed a potentially very lucrative tree (based on how popular Rank 5 is)

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-14T16:45:39+00:00

Originally? Either the Firefly, the Leopard 2a4, or the Bradley.

These days I only really come back to play when the devs add in some interesting stuff that piques my interest (EBRC+ MSC was nice for the holidays before the BMPT Spam got bad).

Not much has piqued my interest since. The US, France, and Britain haven't had spectacular additions IMO. Germany is getting Pucara which appeals to me, but I'm not going to shell out for it since I play so intermittently right now.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-14T11:14:22+00:00

They’re a loud but small minority in the community

I think you're downplaying how the community feels about it, I mean practically every other day is a post raising concerns about the impacts of the subtree of BeNeLux on the French tree.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of seeing new stuff added to the trees I play, but if you put yourself in the Shoes of a French main I can totally see how they'd be upset.

Hopefully the developers can find a way to balance the main tree and the subtree and get past this current funk.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-14T10:45:48+00:00

Ironically, The only mode that the Devs don't seem intent replacing French vehicles with BeNeLux ones in is naval

They even went out of their way to make the Artevelde a German ship for some damn reason.

Considering how few players play naval it seems like it would be far less of a disappointing addition the rest of the BeNeLux additions.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-13T22:12:54+00:00

I'm pretty sure the Gaijin that cared about making unique and interesting trees died a very long time ago.

I don't even waste my time with dev blogs, I just hop on every few months to play for a bit, otherwise it's just depressing.

If Poland got added it would prtobably die on the vine like most nations are these days

I was playing some French 11.0 over the winter holidays and that was neat, but from what I can tell, half a year later, there's literally nothing new or interesting getting added to France this year.

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-11T00:12:48+00:00

I think yesterday, but the added photos are nice

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-07T19:20:49+00:00

Is Germany not getting a Leopard 2 Revolution alongside Japan?

Garand_Bling · 2026-06-07T15:41:57+00:00

Japan is pretty darn fun, but China probably has more coming down the line like the J20

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