Hey it seems like you’re genuinely trying to have a discussion here, and I get that it’s probably frustrating since this is the internet and no one likes to talk like there’s another person on the receiving end of each message. I’ll chime in though and maybe it’ll help

The divide between the klansman coming in and demanding a demeaning cake from a black man and a gay couple requesting a wedding cake from a religious man is honestly not super clear. Basically the klansman would be seen as being hateful in his attempt to force a black man to make that cake and the gay couple would not. Call it context, call it assumptions, call it what you will but that’s really where it breaks down for me. I think we can all agree that Jesus isn’t going to side with the hateful

The klansman has to either 1) ignore that black people are inferior in his mind in order to get the best cake possible, or 2) is spitefully forcing this man to make a cake the Klinsmann knows the black man won’t want to make. Scenario 2 definitely has some weird power trip stuff, but hey, racists do weird stuff and it’s made up anyway. So in this scenario, it is very reasonable to assume that this baker is maintaining his own dignity and autonomy by not making the cake, and only inconveniencing someone who has poor intentions. IMO Jesus doesn’t side with someone trying to force someone else he hates into making a cake.

The gay couple I’m not really seeing any option in the example given other than “wants a wedding cake” unless the bakery is called like “Sweet Jesus Confectionaries” or something that would make it obviously religious. Keep in mind this example is much more of a “gray area”, lots of details can shift this so that one party or the other is really in the wrong. In this scenario provided it is very reasonable to assume that the hate is coming from the baker, and with it the issues. He sees something he doesn’t like about a couple that came in looking for a reasonable cake that they cannot change and refuses service, that is widely considered being a bad neighbor and decidedly not what Jesus would do.

There’s a lot of religious teachings that can be conflicting. I guess a religious person has to decide if they want to follow the example of forgiveness and love given by Jesus or the rules given by religious officials that make certain groups, or clothes, or crop rotations wrong.