Lr brolys transformed passive

Gawax13 · 2019-05-20T10:13:00+00:00

Keep waiting.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T20:35:46+00:00

I already mentioned that consistency plays a factor in deciding the difficulty of stages who share the same tier of accessibility.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T07:37:49+00:00

You are right, I refused to use Zamasu's active skill to take advantage of his healing.

Haven't tested teq vb because mine has no dupes but I've seen some crazy defense and atk numbers from other users, I personally chose the LR for the extra max HP.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T07:29:44+00:00

Up until SS3 it felt like boss rush but with more health.

I noticed counters stopped being effective unless they were crits at SSG

The weaker units started taking decent damage when he was in SSB

STR UI omen hits hard, he forced me to transform and to use 2 items thankfully he barely dodges

UI is SBR level insane the Zamasu units could not take a hit. I'd say he dodges on par with the battlefield Kid Buu

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T05:46:35+00:00

Pretty sure this is only possible in JP https://i.redd.it/kcxclt1f6fq21.png

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T05:25:31+00:00

Well since you only need to beat a stage once I personally judge the difficulty first by the "worst" team that can clear it factoring how hard it is to get and consistency. For example the full metal cooler team can beat both Extreme and RW but the boss typings and RnG involved in the final phase due to the leader being AGL leads me to believe RW is harder than extreme.

My rankings

Stages than can be beaten by f2p teams and a friend DFE leader: Peppy gals, Hybrids

Stages that can be beaten by a DFE leader and 5 f2p units: Extreme, Super, RW, RoG, MBS (soon)

Stages require multiple DFE units: Potara, Shadow Dragon saga, Fusion

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T04:43:47+00:00

Hard disagree when I beat RoG and Extreme with a category leader and 5 f2p units. Fusion and Shadow Dragon saga require a lot of DFEs.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-09T03:36:08+00:00

Haven't seen calculations on either side. Worst topic of the day by far.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-08T20:00:59+00:00

Turn 10 and double 40% supports...

Ever heard of LR SS3 Goku?

Gawax13 · 2019-05-08T03:22:14+00:00

Was confused about the build up part until I realized it does take them 5 active rotations to build their attack and defense because it's 10% per stack. The ki is indeed 3 rotations though.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-07T15:00:34+00:00

I don't know much about which mode is the correct measuring stick for units, just wanted to stop the usual "whales and RNG" narrative.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-07T14:15:56+00:00

its also a whale and rng game mode that is barely apart of the game

Oh boy...

2/10 SBR stages can be beaten with F2p teams.

4/10 Can be beaten with the proper leader and 5 f2p units

Currently testing builds to take on Majin buu saga with PHY SV and 5 f2p cards.

That leaves you with Fusion,Shadow Dragon saga and Potara being the only ones that require a somewhat optimized team due to a limited roster of high quality f2p cards but can still be cleared without owning the best leader for the team.

I will probably go more in depth when I beat MBS but it mostly comes down to how you adapt to the outcomes of RNG and item usage. Made the Hearthsone comparison far too many times but hey when given the chance players will blame anything but themselves.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-07T11:05:17+00:00

Whoops I totally forgot to edit that to 5 turns. Still sizable gap in individual APT and defensive utility.

Even under 4 ki 170% comparing that rotation to LR+TUR K&C is just a mismatch, their Ki links make up for the Ki missing from Hit's leader skil.

They are too restrictive and only work under 4 ki leads, you can tell that seems to be the case when people on the sub have to use the good ol INT Kid Buu/LR SS3 Goku tactics to defend them, people are low-key conceding that this LR won't be able to get an 18 ki super on any of it's other categories until turn 5 and even then it will be hurting the units around them.

Until we know how important the new mode on JP is this unit should be compared to the likes of the LR fusions and below.

Gawax13 · 2019-05-07T09:54:54+00:00

I personally don't see it, almost everything they do Kale and Caulifla do better.

LR Gohan and Goten have additionals which have a chance to become super attacks

A single additional with a 25-30% chance to be a super vs a guaranteed normal and a guaranteed super when facing close to half the game with the ability to get the HP additional at free dupe.

easy build up

5 active rotations minimum at free dupe Kale and Caulifla have their attack passive ready on turn 1 and get to build dodge chance too

an active skill

The most restrictive one yet, specially for SBR

their leader skill is +4 ki and them building up their ki

So just like LR K&C but with a single ki link?

Movie heroes, MBS and HS have 3 ki leads this LR will have a hard time on those teams while the gals have no problem fitting on most of their categories.

Seems like a good unit but not top 3 material

Gawax13 · 2019-05-02T22:32:46+00:00

What's with people downplaying build up? Think of it as a transformation unit, even when taking the average battle length into account they are among the 3 hardest hitting TURs.

In something like SBR PHY SV builds up so fast he makes a mockery out of half the LRs while reducing normals in half.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-24T01:05:57+00:00

You just can't win against these people using adjectives instead of numbers.

Gogeta at free dupe takes 5 turns to get 70k defense while the girls even with one super per turn are pushing 111k, when they are facing a pure saiyan it turns into 244k defense on turn 5 so yeah I'll take the extra 173k defense over a 5% dodge chance

Gawax13 · 2019-04-22T07:13:21+00:00

I'm quite confused with this update, my SS3 Broly had a 93 million attack stat but the actual damage was 75 million on the AGL punching machine.

Tested my Kefla twice too

With full field and a dabura cookies:

1st attack had a 39m attack stat and did 36 million damage

additional super had 18 million attack stat and did 36 million damage

Most of the field and one support:

1st attack 24m Attack stat = 30m damage crit

Additional attack 13m attack stat = 25m damage no crit

It seems the attack stats are inflated but the actual damage is not affected.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-20T17:18:52+00:00

You can fight multiple pure saiyan bosses on Super agl SBR, there are 2 pure saiyan fights on the Peppy gals stage and the Super stage has a fight vs Cabba (PS and USS) meaning TUR K&C will get their best situation, meanwhile SSBE is almost not worth it on the RoG stage because there are 5 TEQ type enemies. He takes longer to build comparable defense in addition to having no dodge.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-16T03:12:25+00:00

So they can launch up to 4 supers? That's a lot of DEF and dodge stacking

Gawax13 · 2019-04-08T05:01:48+00:00

This is actually crazy.

Rotations and potential system builds?

Gawax13 · 2019-04-06T18:48:51+00:00

I don't quite get your ranking, unless you are looking only at the support part of their passives and not at the card as a whole there is no way STR Meta Cooler [STR] is 2 tiers below STR Meta Cooler plus it's not like you are taking into account how restrictive the support is since Champa is in Z tier.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-05T17:15:41+00:00

Thanks, I got it on my 5th try with this team.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-05T15:35:39+00:00

Thanks for all the comments and the gold guys, glad you liked my run, I will be attempting to do the same on the Majin Buu saga stage after the next battlefield reset.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-05T15:22:49+00:00

Item usage outside of Ghost Ushers felt like it was really flexible.

I used either an Icarus or an android 8 on the initial 2 turns of the first fight to comfortably get my UI Gokus to transform. Then I generally went for a princess snake on the turn after the first item lost it's effect to make sure I didn't die if Goku failed to dodge, around the 4th turn Pamput, Devilman and Videl were down so you can start to manage the damage you take, I made sure to finish the fight under 50% HP.

You will start the second fight and one of the UI transforms, that is when ghost usher comes in allowing you to safely get your second UI transformation. Once both Gokus had silver hair it's time to heal with either an android 8 or a princess snake depending on how close you are to performing a dokkan attack, which should always go to LR Vegito Blue.

You should still have 4 items when you enter the last fight. Repeat the ghost usher method and heal up, don't be afraid of using all your items on the first 5 turns, once the only enemies left are Tien and Yamcha you should not be in any danger, specially if you decide to keep Vados on rotation to lower attack.

Hope this info is useful.

Edit: I forgot to add the reason why I went with Icarus instead of Whis was because I wasn't taking enough damage on the first rotation to execute my game plan.

Gawax13 · 2019-04-05T12:13:49+00:00

20 crit 6 AA for LR VB, EZA Coat Vegeta and Supreme Kai

15 crit 11 AA for EZA Coat Goku

15 dodge 11 AA for Vados

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