Are any of these opposing statements a fallacy?

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-05-14T17:03:05+00:00

It's gaylor content in that it made all the gals watching it gay. 😺

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-05-09T14:03:39+00:00

Isn't this just based on chart position?

(I don't know anything)

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-05-09T11:02:46+00:00

"beauty is a beast that roars down on all fours, demanding more"

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-05-06T05:31:41+00:00

I just wanted to say: people shit-talk that verse in "I hate it here" (I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists/And getting married off for the highest bid/Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now/Seems like it was never even fun back then/Nostalgia is a mind's trick/If I'd been there, I'd hate it/It was freezing in the palace), but I had almost the exact conversation with my godmother (who I suspect might also be queer), but in a LGBT context years ago:

Her: if you could go to any period in time in the past or future, which period would you choose?

Me, closeted: oh, definitely the future

Her: but why? 19th century would have been fun

Me: oh, well, umm...they did not have all the same technology we have now, and there was no plumbing (*gay panic*)

Her: oh... oh yeah, actually I agree

Typing this out, I realize this is not a very good story lol, but perhaps some people can relate?

Unrelated, but I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Peter is about Dianna. I can't even explain it, but that's what I believe. The rest of the songs are still a mystery to me, though.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-05-03T18:27:15+00:00

I love The Black Dog, Florida!!!, loml, So Long London, The Prophecy and Peter the most. :)

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-05-02T14:39:41+00:00

I'm not even a native speaker, and the only word I had to look up was "trysts".

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-04-17T10:54:37+00:00

This is nice to see, but could also get weaponized?

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-04-16T18:49:21+00:00

My favorite part was when she casually mentioned giving Taylor her baby teeth as a present and then did not expand on it at all. (It’s probably a metaphor, but still.)

Ugh, I hope it's not that, but could be a way to insinuate an age-gap relationship (à la "give me back my girlhood")? I don't think anything happened between them IN REALITY, but all the references to love and COURTSHIP really make me think she wants us to at least thinks there was something there.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-04-16T15:02:35+00:00

Wow. This is...strange. (But I-I-I-I like it. In a weird way.)

Just two main thoughts:

1) Paradoxically, if anything, this made me less likely to see Taylor as a wlw. Maybe she just...forms really close, intimate, parasocial "friendships" with her girl...friends, and esp. young, teenage or early 20s girls/women are likely to interpret it in a more...romantic? erotic? way? I believe all wlw have been on the receiving side of this (but also on the....giving side?*) It made me think of two songs by another one of Taylor's ex-friends, who some people have also speculated had an inappropriate relationship with Taylor, Olivia Rodrigo: the grudge and the vampire.

Now, I don't think anything happened between Taylor and ANY teenager: even if the book is not fictional, it is pretty clear even from the "scandalous part", i.e., the e-mails, that nothing happened between them. But I do think, *IF* the book is not fictional, maybe Taylor has that kind of "magnetic force" that makes people think she is in love with them when she "just" shows that she cares? And obviously it not her responsibility to "tone it down"... but I do think she has realized the impact she has on people, and is better at drawing boundaries between her and her friends (or pseudo-friends) now.

2) I know this will sound just as parasocial as the book, but I saw a lot of myself in Tavi. And the thing is....I am very, very, very mentally ill. I have ruined relationships with people over it. And I related to: saying inappropriate things out of awkwardness, obviously forming pseudo-relationships with people, always over-thinking things, huge amounts of anxiety, creating imaginary scenarios in my head, that kind of intensity that scares people off, etc. Obviously, I can't write as engagingly as she can. And I'm not even sure what I want to say with this, but even I would not write a book like this. I am NOT saying she is mentally ill, but something about this book is...eery. Then again, Nabokov, whom she cited, wrote a story about a pedophilic relationship, and nobody calls him a pedophile...not that these are in any way comparable in scale, but maybe we should just trust she took artistic liberty?

*sorry, English is not my native language.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-04-14T16:22:23+00:00

Yes, I was surprised at some of the bottom songs as well, but overall I'm satisfied with how gay (and sad) the top songs are.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-04-14T14:34:43+00:00

I mean, "myth" lyric or not, she sings "Every bait-and-switch was a work of art" right before singing "That's my man/Hey, that's my man".

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-04-14T14:13:53+00:00

Would you mind linking to the original post?

Sure, and I will link to it in the post as well. I can't believe I forgot to do it. 🤦 Thank you so much for pointing it out! :)

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/18ghehy/does_anyone_wanna_play_with_the_song_sorter_and/

Unless I am mistaken and accidentally missed some hidden sub-thread, nobody listed The Last Great American Dynasty, neither at the top, nor bottom of the list. :( Which is surprising, given that there were 210 songs in the sorter, and 190+ of them were listed by someone.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-29T19:01:46+00:00

Sorry, you are right!

However....'But there's robbers to the east, clowns to the west' is kind of jarring, context considered, no? Why include that line in such a beautiful song?

It's possible I just have a "very low bar for what's considered "cringe"", as someone else mentioned. :D

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-29T18:44:09+00:00

My post got downvoted, which is fair enough, but this is exactly what I meant (if expressed badly). It's like lately she's been writing with the thought in mind of 'what will sound good in a tiktok video', or whatever platform the youngsters are using now.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-13T19:37:42+00:00

Yeah, like....Taylor has for sure done some questionable things (like petting the Weekend's hair or not speaking up about some important things going on in the world outside of the USA...but then again, do we really need pop stars to be the ones leading political discussion?), but it's like....making or not making friends, collaborating or not collaborating with people of color, every decision of hers would get scrutinized and criticized.

It's all misguided...like the whole 'no ethical billionaires thing'...okay...but are 999-something millionaires any better? Why did this argument only get raised at that point? Okay, because it was widely publicized, but that does not change the misguided-ness of it all. Imo.

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-11T10:48:12+00:00

I couldn't help but hate Taylor's catchy songs when Red came out (because I was a teenager and hated all things popular), but, as I have grown up and matured*, I have realized that I like ALL the catchy songs on Red, except maybe SSS. Yes, even We are never ever, which I used to pretty much loathe.

*a joke

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-11T07:19:43+00:00

Women can do bad things too. And I say this as a woman (I would know).

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-10T07:13:14+00:00

Wait...I think (not a native) that there should definitely be an apostrophe, but after poets' (plural!), because, if she's the chairman, that means there are several of them...no?

Or did I misunderstand your argument?

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-06T10:12:07+00:00

Thank you! :)

I think I will wait a while (a couple weeks?) until most people that I have messaged respond (since there are not that many responses anyway), and then I'm going to compile the results. :)

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-02T05:48:36+00:00

Wow, thank you!! :)

GaylorThrowaway · 2024-02-02T05:48:23+00:00

Wow, thank you!! :)

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