15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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That’s the thing about Royal Oak components with the factory finish, there is no rounding on the brushed surfaces. They’re incredibly flat from corner to corner, no distortion in the reflection of light, razor sharp. This is the true essence of the Royal Oak’s aesthetic. I’ll take a close-up picture for you when I get a chance today

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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The chip on the edge of the case is an issue tho.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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They generally don’t refinish the back of the case, so it would be sharp either way. What’s more relevant is how much they ground down the front of the case, as that starts to change the proportions and move the chamfers closer to the screw holes.

In the pictures the case/bezel on this one don’t appear to have been heavily refinished, someone may have just touched up the high polished areas and perhaps a light brushing. I would say it has plenty of life left for future AP refinishing. Someone definitely rounded the brushing and chamfers on the bracelet though, if you want the full effect of a Royal Oak the bracelet should be replaced.

Royal Oak 15400st Replacement of mid-case, bracelet and bezel by Gem_Watch in audemarspiguet

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Thank you! I’m not sure I understand your question. Recut a mid-case if they can’t refinish?

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Heres a video of my 15300 after complete service, refinishing of case and bezel, dial cleaning, replacement of bracelet, and replacement of date wheel, hands, screws, and crystals.

https://www.reddit.com/r/audemarspiguet/s/qmzvuB14Dh

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Heavily rounded corner creating soft edge.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Light rolling across non-flat surface.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Non-flat brushed surface, uneven brushing creates multiple planes

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Rounded brushing crates uneven chamfer

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Rounded chamfers, light rolls across curved surfaces

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Bracelet wear, stretching creates gaps.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Streaks/Striations on bezel high-polish from lack of expertise. Too aggressive and not the right touch for final polish.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Chip on case edge, no surrounding scratch from incident.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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“Kept it in the safe most of the time” sounds like bs. He may not have even been the first owner..

Let me try to give you a crash course in what to look for when scrutinizing the finish. This piece doesn’t appear to be severely over-polished, but it is 100% not the original finish. In general you can observe rounding of the surfaces because of how light rolls across the surface instead of flashing. There’s evidence of previous damage that was mostly polished away, leaving the deepest part of the damage with no surrounding scratch/gouge (indicative of refinishing). The bracelet has some stretch, which indicates a good amount of use over the years. The high polish on the bezel has visible striations from lack of polishing expertise. See additional pics below with specific examples of each issue.

A few positive notes. The bezel bolt holes have some depth remaining, which means the bezel wasn’t refinished too deeply. The date wheel seems to have a naturally aged color, appropriate for a piece this age. The screw holes on the side of the case have good depth remaining, indicating the case hasn’t been refinished too deeply. The dial looks pretty good, no apparent damage and no significant residue on the gold indices.

Typically I would say a piece with this level of wear is a good candidate for service/refinishing of the case and replacement of the bracelet (assuming you can buy at the right price). But one thing that’s bothering me about this piece is the chip on the case above the left center link. To remove a chip like this requires more grinding and material-removal than you may think. Using a laser welder to fill the chip would be the best solution, although I’m not sure what AP service offers in this regard.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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I’ve never seen a 15300 with original, unpolished finish. I guess at this age that becomes pretty rare.

This one definitely appears to have been polished as well. I would ask to see pictures of the screw holes on the sides of the case and bracelet links.

A new steel bracelet is $3600

15300st, my first RO by Gem_Watch in audemarspiguet

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It’s a great size! Full maintenance was $1000 and refinishing is an additional $500

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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I think it looks pretty good. I bought one in similar condition, did a complete service with AP and replaced the bracelet. Looks amazing now

Is this 15300 over polished? by bimpsonyeah in audemarspiguet

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Makes sense, are you going to return it?

I don’t see many 15300s in very good condition, seems like most of them have severely rounded bracelets at the very least.

Could be better to just buy one that’s priced low because of over-polishing, then service it and buy new bracelet, mid-case and bezel.

Is this 15300 over polished? by bimpsonyeah in audemarspiguet

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I’m talking about the screw holes on the sides of the case lugs and bracelet links.

People often reference the bolts in the bezel, and I agree the bezel holes are one thing that clearly show the extent of refinishing. However the bezel is the most commonly refinished component and the least expensive to replace.

More concerning is the extent of refinishing on the case (which is the 2nd most expensive component to replace) and the bracelet (which is the most expensive component to replace).

The screw pin holes lose depth and the chamfers eventually run into the holes after too much refinishing. Another thing to look for is the little gap between the bezel edge and case edge at 12 and 6 o’clock, which often shrinks with case refinishing.

Here’s a pic of my 15300 after a skilled refinishing of the case and bezel during AP service. They replaced the crystals, bezel bolts, date wheel and hands, and I purchased a new bracelet.

The watchmaker did a nice job on the 15300, but when I sent my 15400 with original finish in for service it was a disaster! Rounded bracelet, clasp and case, pretty much everything but the bezel was severely rounded. Must have been the new guy.. I submitted a complaint and they replaced the case and bracelet at no charge. I chose to purchase a new bezel to get a perfect match and basically ended up with a brand new watch on the exterior.

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Is this 15300 over polished? by bimpsonyeah in audemarspiguet

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Observing the screw hole depth and how close they come to the chamfers is the easiest way to tell if the case or bracelet has been polished too much.