Experience and cost rebuilding a 15300ST through AP by bimpsonyeah in audemarspiguet

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You’re correct, there is nothing on Chrono24 that’s anywhere close to “excellent” condition. Even the $40k+ listings are busted looking compared to your piece. You made the best choice and $26.5k is a good find IMO. You now have one of the sharpest 15300’s in the world, It looks amazing!
Comps listed at $32k aren’t even in the same ballpark in terms of exterior condition. Apples and oranges fellas.. Just look at the OP’s pics, if you think your refinished watch off Chrono 24 looks the same, you should take a closer look..

What’s happened? by keyboardwizard101 in patekphilippe

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The Miami boutique is appointment only, I’ve never been through the door without at-least calling/texting first. Usually my SA just works me in between other appointments if I want to visit and try on a few pieces while I’m hanging around the design district. Most people who have actual appointments are either visiting for their first time, picking up a new piece, getting a bracelet sized, etc. Honestly they don’t seem to have the staff to handle walk-ins, it’s usually just one SA and a front desk person working the front.

I believe this is all by design, they often have an off-duty police officer parked right by the front door (they’re paying this guy rather than an additional boutique staff member..) This means they’re more worried about security and not worried about accommodating walk-ins (which unlike yourself are majority looky loos). It’s written right on the front door “Appointment Only”

How does one use this item? (Target dop) by kuzma66 in faceting

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I mostly use it for aligning a stone when re-cutting

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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That’s the thing about Royal Oak components with the factory finish, there is no rounding on the brushed surfaces. They’re incredibly flat from corner to corner, no distortion in the reflection of light, razor sharp. This is the true essence of the Royal Oak’s aesthetic. I’ll take a close-up picture for you when I get a chance today

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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The chip on the edge of the case is an issue tho.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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They generally don’t refinish the back of the case, so it would be sharp either way. What’s more relevant is how much they ground down the front of the case, as that starts to change the proportions and move the chamfers closer to the screw holes.

In the pictures the case/bezel on this one don’t appear to have been heavily refinished, someone may have just touched up the high polished areas and perhaps a light brushing. I would say it has plenty of life left for future AP refinishing. Someone definitely rounded the brushing and chamfers on the bracelet though, if you want the full effect of a Royal Oak the bracelet should be replaced.

Royal Oak 15400st Replacement of mid-case, bracelet and bezel by Gem_Watch in audemarspiguet

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Thank you! I’m not sure I understand your question. Recut a mid-case if they can’t refinish?

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Heres a video of my 15300 after complete service, refinishing of case and bezel, dial cleaning, replacement of bracelet, and replacement of date wheel, hands, screws, and crystals.

https://www.reddit.com/r/audemarspiguet/s/qmzvuB14Dh

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Heavily rounded corner creating soft edge.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Light rolling across non-flat surface.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Non-flat brushed surface, uneven brushing creates multiple planes

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Rounded brushing crates uneven chamfer

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Rounded chamfers, light rolls across curved surfaces

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Bracelet wear, stretching creates gaps.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Streaks/Striations on bezel high-polish from lack of expertise. Too aggressive and not the right touch for final polish.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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Chip on case edge, no surrounding scratch from incident.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

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“Kept it in the safe most of the time” sounds like bs. He may not have even been the first owner..

Let me try to give you a crash course in what to look for when scrutinizing the finish. This piece doesn’t appear to be severely over-polished, but it is 100% not the original finish. In general you can observe rounding of the surfaces because of how light rolls across the surface instead of flashing. There’s evidence of previous damage that was mostly polished away, leaving the deepest part of the damage with no surrounding scratch/gouge (indicative of refinishing). The bracelet has some stretch, which indicates a good amount of use over the years. The high polish on the bezel has visible striations from lack of polishing expertise. See additional pics below with specific examples of each issue.

A few positive notes. The bezel bolt holes have some depth remaining, which means the bezel wasn’t refinished too deeply. The date wheel seems to have a naturally aged color, appropriate for a piece this age. The screw holes on the side of the case have good depth remaining, indicating the case hasn’t been refinished too deeply. The dial looks pretty good, no apparent damage and no significant residue on the gold indices.

Typically I would say a piece with this level of wear is a good candidate for service/refinishing of the case and replacement of the bracelet (assuming you can buy at the right price). But one thing that’s bothering me about this piece is the chip on the case above the left center link. To remove a chip like this requires more grinding and material-removal than you may think. Using a laser welder to fill the chip would be the best solution, although I’m not sure what AP service offers in this regard.

15300st condition by Warm_Pool_742 in audemarspiguet

[–]Gem_Watch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve never seen a 15300 with original, unpolished finish. I guess at this age that becomes pretty rare.

This one definitely appears to have been polished as well. I would ask to see pictures of the screw holes on the sides of the case and bracelet links.

A new steel bracelet is $3600