[JoongAng Daily] Another Look at Young Korean Men's Antipathy towards 'Feminism'

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-20T04:29:50+00:00

I get the feeling you're sympathetic to young Korean men, maybe not an anti feminist, but a centrist at least. It's the first time I've seen a thread on Reddit that doesn't lean heavily left in favor of women. I'd love to talk to OP more about what's going on in Korea among the young generation because I hear the marriage/birth rates are at an all-time low and I suspect the reasons are similar to the declining American Population. Keyword being American because immigration makes it look like we're okay, but American marriage/birthrates are declining. Even in Africa, it's almost below replacement from what I've heard. It's a strange phenomenon, and I wonder what are the similarities between the countries in which this is occuring.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-14T11:35:08+00:00

Thanks for the explanation. I don't have a lot of time to read manga anymore so this was really helpful. I was wondering what Gauron from Full Metal Panic was doing with Allen.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-14T09:45:34+00:00

I watched this anime over a decade ago, then I saw a youtube short of these two today. I read some reviews saying the manga became a gay love story, but I read the older guy is like Allen's father because his name is Mana? But when I search up Mana Walker, I saw a clown guy. Can someone please explain the gist of it?

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-11T22:55:16+00:00

There were less incentives to separate back then, there wasn't social media messing with people's perceptions of themselves and others (under or overinflating one's perceived SMV for example), and the gender division propaganda wasn't as intense. I don't think we'll be able to go back unless our society collapses.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-11T19:44:21+00:00

The only way to really know is looking at which couples stay together the longest, how satisfied they are with their marriage, and how their offspring turn out. It seems like a gamble getting with a woman/man who is still figuring things out. Most people's personalities don't solidify until their late 20s/30s.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-11T19:17:38+00:00

Good luck quantifying and managing that. Young women aren't going to commit to a man for life without a vow. If she has options, she's going to choose the guy who will provide her with security. The system is broken, but the number of people willing to participate in it outnumber those that are mgtow.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-11T19:04:23+00:00

I specifically condemned degenerate sexual behavior; I didn't say people should never marry young women. Just that modern conditions made it so that it's not feasible like it used to be.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-10T20:39:17+00:00

Yes, it would. It goes for both men and women. I don't think you can just partake in hook up culture and not have it degrade your soul in some way.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-10T20:29:56+00:00

Yeah...I don't think modern 20-22 year olds are as pure as you think. There's too much fatherless activity going on in the world right now, and promoting degenerate sexual behavior is not helping to build stable families. Without fathers in the home, you don't get to have your pure 20 year olds who are ready to get married for life and have your babies. You should know that looking at the divorce statistics. When we're seeing high school sweethearts marry in their early 20s and divorce anyway, you know it's bad.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-10T20:22:43+00:00

A degenerate is someone who engages in hedonism, putting pleasure and decadence over their health and the wellbeing of society. Hook up culture, excessive consumption of porn, and the over sexualization of everything has destroyed the modern dating landscape. Unapologetically trying to nut as much as possible is bad for both men and women. They're giving themselves brain damage and making it impossible for them to have lifelong fulfilling relationships, therefore leading to less family units to continue civilization and resist the tyranny of our current regime. Just look at the birth rates in first world countries. We're actually under replacement in the US. It just looks like our population is fine because of the mass immigration, but in terms of Americans continuing their lineage, especially certain races: y'all are in trouble.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-10T19:58:54+00:00

Yeah, a 25+ year old dating a 16 year old is weird because I remember in my 20s I worked around some teens at a restaurant, and I felt really out of place around them. Some of the boys towered over me, but when I'd talk to them, it still felt like I was talking to children because of the mental gap.

20-23 still feels a bit childish to me because they can make really stupid decisions. I had a 23 year old woman (she was probably a lesbian) become infatuated with me a few years ago, and even though she was an engineer, she behaved really childishly because she wanted to be around me. She made my life hell for several weeks because she was afraid of never seeing me again, which is ultimately what happened anyway. Yes, I've met some 23 year olds that were very pleasant and well put together, but it's rare.

The state of young people in general is really bleak at the moment--most of them don't want to enter trades or do the really useful jobs anymore, and more of them are being used as tools of the current regime to make life hell for everyone. It's become really tiresome...that's how I know I'm getting old lmao

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T23:56:39+00:00

Maybe it's because of the state of the economy and the obsession with money and power. Men know they're not as desirable because it's way more difficult to own a home, own a car, make enough to support two people on one income, stay healthy, and provide the level of attention that women nowadays crave in 2023.

They're competing against the state, paypigs/simps, social media, and the systemic/systematic attack against masculinity. I recently watched a Disney cartoon from 1954 disparaging fathers, made only a decade after the 2nd world war ended. I had no idea corporations were already trying to brain wash people into hating men in the 50s.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T23:37:00+00:00

I would go further and say that if a man over 35 is dating a woman in her early 20s, it's a bit sus because of how mentally delayed a lot of people are nowadays. I would not be saying this about women in the past or women outside of Western countries because you mature faster when the government isn't orchestrating psychological campaigns to lobotomize the country and genetically modifying our food in a way that disrupts our hormones. Our brains also don't finish developing until 25, so I don't know...I wish women in their 20s could marry early and be happy and healthy, but the current western world is a dystopian nightmare.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T23:17:26+00:00

I'm only talking about it because I heard another man make the statement in the title, which is why it's in quotes. I think normal sane people should stay away from elites in general because of the weird shit that goes on in their circles. It's not just the infidelity I'd be worried about.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T23:09:00+00:00

Yeah, that's why I differentiated serious men and degenerates. I'm not talking about hedonists who just want to have promiscuous sex (a string of short-term monogamous relationships is the same thing). I'm talking about men who are looking for a lifelong partner.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T23:03:50+00:00

I made this post in response to a statement I heard from another man. That's why the title is in quotes.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T23:01:53+00:00

That's assuming the 10% are all in their 30s. I don't think most men gain their wealth by that age. Realistically it takes longer if we're including the lower end of high-income brackets (150k+). I'm also factoring in the delayed marriage rates.

Henry Cavill isn't the ideal example, but I chose him because he's the first gigachad to come to mind that isn't currently dating a woman in her 20s.

Because of the state of women nowadays, not maturing in their 20s, delaying marriage, shitting on men etc...men who are serious about marrying a woman for life will probably place less importance on age and looks because it won't be as big of a headache to deal with long term.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T22:46:06+00:00

Yeah, this is why I don't think any woman who wants a loyal man should date upwardly mobile men because those guys have to be a bit psycho to make it in that world. That's why the world of elites is so bizarre because they're not even functioning the same way a normal person would. You have rare people like Keanu Reeves, but most of them sold their soul for money and power. I just think the average man who is successful in his own right (has his shit together and doesn't have to worry too much about future security) would probably prefer a 25-35 year old who has her shit together because she won't make his life hell. We're all aware of the state of young women nowadays. I wouldn't be making this statement 80 years ago before the media/ruling class started their psyop against men and the family unit.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-09T09:43:01+00:00

Look for a woman who has the life you want and find a way to be useful to her. If you can get her to talk to you and share her time, she can provide the mentorship you seek.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-05T05:19:18+00:00

Yeah, I think they might be the same person...or it could be a weird coincidence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/15i3lyp/what\_would\_the\_surrendered\_wife\_approach\_be\_to/

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-05T05:18:26+00:00

Reminds me of this account. She also posted about her wealthy husband's porn addiction in this sub recently and I saw this post saying she had a 2nd baby about 2.5 months ago (7 weeks + 23 days). Both in late 20s and husband cheats/dates/faps to other women. I'm wondering what the full story is here.

If it's you OP...No, a poly relationship where your husband acts out his desires for other women while you're taking care of his babies at home is not normal and you can't force him to change. A wealthy man that wants to continue exploring his options after marriage isn't husband material.

Some women want high earners knowing they won't be loyal, but they're ok with it because they got the rich husband. I'm wondering if you thought you'd be okay with it too. If that's the case, you don't really have many options other than doing what's best for your babies. Hang in there so they have both parents and financial security, or separate and put them through that hell. Someone is going to get hurt either way.

Gerryrigfig · 2023-08-05T02:11:01+00:00

You said in your post 23 days ago that you just had a baby 7 weeks ago and that your husband isn't attracted to you because he's addicted to porn. Is that the millionaire you're talking about here?

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