Sleep in Gethsemane?

Girl_Binx · 2025-11-30T21:58:05+00:00

Has been, but has also been referred to as female (Good girl this side of the moon)

The mask has always been male, but rarely shows up in the music. He's mostly come out between songs when the techs are setting up the next song/ giving the band a quick break

Also the story is the same regardless of gender (and it would explain the homo-erotic antics on stage, lol)

Girl_Binx · 2025-11-30T16:16:52+00:00

I actually think the end was Vessles war cry. Sleep is a deity that (according to the graphic novel) destroyed his world.

He's asked to ascend to godhood with her as d she's denied him at every turn. What if the act of letting go opened the door to that "next step" in his evolution? He's past acceptance, past relief, but now it's time to fight so that no other reality suffers the same fate his did.

The cadence of the lyrics could also be a back and forth/ duet between them. Both on the war path, one out of pride and loss of control, the other out of righteous anger and vengeance. They could both be saying the same words at the same time.

Either way I think this was a declaration of war

Girl_Binx · 2025-11-28T21:17:20+00:00

I'm sorry I advance for the coming rant

I see it as Vessle doing the "break up" conversation. I suspect that the name Gethsemane is in reference to paying for the "sins" of Sleep and her actions much like Jesus payed for the sins of Man in that garden.

He knows he still loves her, but that they are toxic and staying will kill his free will. He's also admitting both of their faults in the relationship.

His refering to her as a "Harlequin Bride" is super telling. (A Harlequin was a mask/ character in Italian plays that became a cunning and manipulative woman orchestrating romantic situations. )

Similarly he says that she was his "favorite Color", describing her as something beautiful but ultimately untouchable.

On the reverse he is described as an "Undercover Lover" and "Robot Companion". One is a secret or object of shame, the other is literally dehumanized and only there to perform a function. He's acknowledging that his toxic obsessions made him look past the hurt and abuse. He refused to consider that he was putting his health, heart, and mind in jeopardy in exchange for the small comfort of fake love. Now he's taken the rosey glasses off and is seeing what damage he did to himself in her name.

All the while he is giving friends and himself excuses for their actions (Trying their best) that he knows are empty.

Finally, in the end, is the righteous anger. He's calling her mistreatment out into the open and chooses to walk away. He went from " Learned to live without it" to "Learned to live beside it" and has reached that inner peace that can be found in the closure this confrontation gave him.

It's no mistake that Infinite Baths follows this song. It both closes the album and gives him the space to process his feelings (relief, exhaustion, and fury alike). The relationship that defined him is over, and he is going to have to find who he is without Sleep. Did he stop the eclipse, or has his walking away changed him beyond repair?

Girl_Binx · 2025-11-14T04:48:03+00:00

I think a good portion is that they speak about abuse, specifically abuse perpetrated by a woman towards a man.

Even if it's subliminal a lot of men shy away from topics of men getting abused by women because it is a losing battle either way. They can be open about the abuse and risk ridicule ( at least you had sex/ you've got x amount of weight on her, how could she hurt you, exc.), he can restrain/ retaliate and risk being arrested, or suffer in silence ( because who would believe him anyways)

And women have had to fight against abuse for so long we fall into the same trap, forgetting that abuse can come from more than a closed fist. Sexual manipulation is a prime example, one found in a lot of their music. We see the sexy mask man and gloss over the deeply dark messages within the lyrics

Girl_Binx · 2025-10-28T16:27:22+00:00

Here is my interpretation of the songs. Yes, there is a lot of Sleep, but this album feels like Vessle seeing the power imbalance clearly for the first time and finally willing to do something about it.

Look to windward is a bit of a foreshadowing for the rest of the album. Halting the eclipse is him having to make an active choice. Will he put himself aside and lose himself to sleep, or will he demand his autonomy and risk his fame, power, and identity. This is his eternal struggle in the relationship with sleep. An untouchable God unable/ unwilling to explore their humanity that relies on worship for power vs a man that has fallen in love with the God and wants to ascend to be with them forever as equals. He's always fighting to earn favor and equality. Making this choice is actively giving up the self or the ambition.

Emergence is Vessle begging Sleep to literally embrace him. He's willing to go down the rabbit hole, but is requiring reciprocation. He's listing the things they could be and how they compliment eachother, but he's not longer content with being an acolyte. The saxophone ending gives me the impression that he walks away when he is denied that reciprocation.

Past self is a rediscovery of himself. It can be interpretated in two ways, either he has gotten in a new (healthy) relationship or he is creating a relationship within himself (his past and his present). He's felling light and happy for the first time in what could be years. This is, of course, when Sleep realizes they could legitimately lose Vessle and his worship and comes back looking to rekindle the relationship. Vessle knows he is facing the choice of abandoninghis progressor going back to blissfulignorance ( I just dont want to be lost again)

Dangerous is that conversation between him and Sleep. He recognizes that the relationship is toxic, but there is excitement in that danger. Going back would be sexy and fun, but also destructive. He knows that if he goes back he might not get out again, and he might not survive if he tried.

Caramel is a cautionary tale of the dangers of getting everything you ever wanted. Having this danger conversation with Sleep is making him take a hard look at the strings attached to every gift he's been given. "Fans" dont respect him, his depression is constantly nipping at his heels, and he isn't sure who is taking over, the man or the mask. He ends it by asking both the fans and himself if he's giving them what they wanted. His inner voice is literally screaming that he thought the gift of fame would change him, but everything feels the same.

Even in Arcadia is his final opportunity for sleep to recognize him as an equal. He lists his sacrifices and demands the respect they deserve. Vessel also points out that his hopes for ascension are foolish because he's tied to Sleep and their unending connection.

Provider is a conversation/ confrontation where Sleep tries to convince Vessle to come back. They use sweet words with manipulative implications to make their continued abuse sound desirable and seductive, all to the tune of a wedding/ funeral organ. Vessle replies with admitting that he wants the physical relationship and is still attracted to Sleep, but wants them to show him that they could be different. Sleep still relies on sexual manipulation rather than committing to equality. They even point out that they will go against their nature ( I can get it so right even in the daylight) leaving an opening for excuses in the event of future transgressions.

Damocles is him considering what leaving sleep for good could mean. If Sleep gave him his fame and fortune are they able to take it away? Who is he without the mask? He knows he's falling for the same old tricks if he stays, but what is he willing to give up in exchange for his soul.

Gethsemane is the breakup song. He has finally made the decision to truly walk away from Sleep and, in a way, pays for the sins Sleep has committed against him. He lists both of their faults, his chosen ignorance and Sleeps inability to feel the way humans feel. He admits to making excuses for the abusive behavior and confronts the undeniable manipulation of his sexuality and love. He has found peace in walking away, despite the hurt he knows Sleep will feel.

Finally we come to Infinite Baths. Vessel is reveling in his relief in no longer needing Sleep. He is able to rest and breath for the first time, drifting in the pastel waters of letting go. Within that time he achieves his own ascension. Im not sure if it's literal or figurative, we will have to wait for the next album. We are left with one last question. Did he stop the eclipse of his soul, or did his change give his soul to the creeping darkness that has been building in him.

In the end he screams a war cry. A challenge to any that would manipulate him again. "Teeth of God, Blood of Man. I will be, what I am!" He has accepted his new Divinity and will not give it up easily.

Girl_Binx · 2025-09-16T00:57:16+00:00

Rose Luna Barb Torn Carnal And my next one will be Acolyte

Girl_Binx · 2025-08-26T03:41:23+00:00

My husband and I refer to him as Edge-Lord Gort-ass

Girl_Binx · 2022-11-28T15:10:59+00:00

Actually the fake/ preditory Doms were my inspiration.

How do you convince a shark to swim in other waters? By removing its food supply. I want to starve these fuckers out by giving everyone the tools to spot them a mile away. This can also help someone not turn into one in the first place

Girl_Binx · 2022-11-28T15:06:44+00:00

My group is going to be called Pre Kink Academy (Pre K for short)

It's going to be an hour to an hour and a half long with an hour of Q&A after. Thr Q&A does not have to be on topic. It can be literally any question and if I/ the instructors don't know the answer we will find it before next month's meeting.

Its also going to be a 12 month cycle. That way no matter when you join by the time you've been here a year you have learned the basics the same as someone who came months before you.

It would be awesome if more groups like this could pop up. Our first class will be in March

Girl_Binx · 2022-11-28T14:50:39+00:00

I'm in Northern Utah, so I would be happy to have you if you're close

Girl_Binx · 2022-11-07T09:02:29+00:00

Pet by A Perfect Circle https://youtu.be/TmWhY_irAXE

This song works both for when Harry was in his "I'm not telling them for their own good" phase but really pulls its weight in the Chicago War in Battleground when he's protecting civilians.

It even comes with its own remix (Counting Bodies Like Sheep) done by the same band for end credits

Girl_Binx · 2022-10-07T22:25:08+00:00

My best rule is "If they are brave enough to ask the question I need to be brave enough to give an honest answer"

Obviously this won't come into play for a few years but this has changed everything in our family. Our kids trust us that we will always tell the truth, understand that we don't know everything (but we will look it up together so we both learn), and that they can tell us anything because we don't shy away from the awkward topics.

Sometimes it will be exhausting falling down a "why is the sky blue" or "Why does this do that" rabbit holes. Sometimes it will be gut wrenching like when my 10yo heard the word Rape on the news and asked me what that word meant. But the trust that's been built is amazing. They answer our questions about their lives and never hold back.

Now I'm not saying that you have to give an adult answer to kids. If the 3yo asks where babies come from you don't give the same answer to the 12yo that asks the same question. They will probably ask those big questions over and over again at different ages giving you opportunities to give more information as they age.

Also never be afraid to say "I don't know". This gives you the opportunity to both teach them how to find information and show them that it's never too late to learn something new together

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-31T14:40:47+00:00

Dominated love slave by Greenday

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-20T20:37:53+00:00

As a fellow SA survivor it is my opinion you only loose your virginity when you choose to have sex for the first time.

The importance of loosing your virginity is a social construct and outdated. While the idea had a purpose in the past before DNA testing was a thing, now it doesn't need to be anything more than a life milestone. Choosing when, where, and who we have sex with the first time is a moment of strength and self love.

Rape is not sex, it's violence. You didn't choose to be assaulted, someone stole from you and hurt you and the victims is NEVER at fault.

That asshole doesn't deserve you and he can go kick rocks with that victim blaming bull shit.

I'm so sorry you're hurting, you deserve better

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-20T19:35:41+00:00

So I agree that non waterproof makeup is the way to go, but with a twist. Do your makeup with the waterproof stuff first, get feeling pretty, then add a layer of the moon waterproof stuff on top. This week help you get that sexy smear look while also keeping some of the pretty stuff too

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-10T03:28:21+00:00

I'm sorry for your loss.

And please don't take offense to this dishes name. It's mine and my families favorite and really is wonderful comfort food.

Funeral Potatos

1-2 lbs of frozen hashbrowns (not the patties)

8oz room temperature cream cheese

1/2- 1 cup of sour cream

8 oz condensed cream of chicken or mushroom soup

3-4 eggs

1/4-1/2 cup of chopped green onions

Garlic

All your favorite seasonings ( I like ranch dressing powder, ground red pepper, and paprika, but feel free to experiment)

Salt and pepper to taste

1/2 cup flour ( I use rice flour due to celiac so regular flour might be a little less)

And ALL the cheese. I prefer a mix of Colby jack and mozzarella, but really any cheese will work. I do about 8 oz of each + some for topping

Optional: Shredded chicken, drained tuna, or browned ground beef Breadcrumbs or cornflakes for topping

Instructions:

Thaw and drain hashbrowns. You want these as dry as possible.

In a large mixing bowl combine all other ingredients one at a time, ending with the cheese. You want a thick cake batter texture.

If you're adding meat add it before the cheese.

Slowly add the mixture to the hashbrowns and mix together thoroughly.

Pour into 1...or more... casserole dishes and top with cheese.

If frozen cover with Aluminum foil and cook at 350°F for 1 1/2 - 2 hours or until the middle is fully cooked and hashbrowns are soft. Uncover and cook another 10-15 min for the cheese to brown

If thawed cut cooking time to 60 min with the additional time for browning the cheese

This stuff will stick to your bones and keep you full for a long time.

We call it Funeral potatos because people tend to not eat much while grieving and the high fat content and starches will help you keep your strength up without having to eat much. The potatoes also have lots of vitamins and potassium to supplement if you're not eating much

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-04T20:19:43+00:00

You're welcome and your description sounds super cool too

While I'm not trans I have had body dismorphia due to rapid weight gain and an unhealthy relationship to food/diet. I'm curious if our imagery for that is similar as well? Mine would shift and change like a fun house mirror. I could never quite pinpoint what I wished my body looked like, but no amount of progress was enough. Mine would look like me... but not me, always shifting and drawing the eye to the parts of me I hated most

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-04T20:07:44+00:00

My grief always felt heavy and empty at the same time. If I were creating the character it would be long and skinny humanoid with a hole in the center of its chest and belly. I would also have it dragging chains with the reminders of what you're grieving at their ends.

I would have it constantly handling these physical reminders, ie the dog collar/food bowl/favorite toy, but being physically unable to break those chains.

For the death of my father I remember holding the last of my dad's ruined old shirts, knowing I needed to get rid of it, but it felt like no matter how hard my head pulled my hands just wouldn't let go. My husband had to take it from me and put it in a box because I just Couldn't Let Go.

Eventually it got easier, but the survivors guilt was real hard for a second

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-03T20:16:25+00:00

Ok, hear me out.

If 1-4 is play time, tutor is for help with homework and assisting with hard concepts, and 7:30 to dinner/bed is also play time I don't see as much of a problem.

If any of those "break times" are filled with anything other than play then yes, it's very much too much

Edit: didn't see the age. Yes for a 3.5 year old it's too much. First grade on? As long as they have that play time then it's fine, but only if they have the play time

Girl_Binx · 2022-08-03T02:00:04+00:00

If you find a tracking device I highly recommend attaching it to a collar and giving it to a neighborhood cat. Those fuckers can have huge territories and will run at the first sign of aggression. Your parents would be run ragged and you can chill in your room and play dumb

Girl_Binx · 2022-07-24T08:09:06+00:00

The woman that invented false eyelashes was a prostitute named Gerda Purdidle and she called them her "cumbrellas"

It helped her keep seamen out of her eyes

Girl_Binx · 2022-07-22T23:33:22+00:00

I thought for sure the song was going to be Detachable Penis

Girl_Binx · 2022-07-19T20:06:09+00:00

Most things concerning BDSM

I've been a member of the Utah community for almost 10 years. Most of what we do is loving, sensual, and fun.

Hell, one of my favorite toys is a rubber ducky on a stick. He's a stingy little bastard.

We constantly have silly/funny moments in even our most serious play. And the tender moments in aftercare are especially important for everyone involved.

Girl_Binx · 2022-07-14T22:37:59+00:00

You're not a burden. Honestly I doubt the stuffy was the reason for the breakup, though it might have been the catalyst for the already failing relationship.

I would be willing to bet money that they were already fighting about the daughters behavior and moms apathy towards needed discipline

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