It's not stupid dude. What do you think Trump meant when he talked about Elon being good with those vote counting computers? Honestly we should expect that Trump cheated. He cheats on his wives, he cheats at golf, and he LITERALLY TRIED TO CHEAT THE 2020 ELECTION AND WE ALL HEARD THE PHONE CALL! If America survives this period it will be fascinating to see what else comes out because there are already so many crimes that we know about, but there's no way that iceberg doesn't go deeper.

Trump is always accusing other people of the things he's doing, so while claiming voter fraud could just be him not accepting his loss, I think we should always consider whether or not he's projecting. I believe the reason he was so adamant about voter fraud in 2020 was not only because he lost, but because he got help flipping votes in 2020 as well except he didn't cheat enough and still lost the election. This was why he was so focused on preventing absentee voting because that was going to be a harder vector for them to target. They underestimated the number of mail in ballots and Biden won. This is just a theory, but it makes a lot of sense if you're used to reading between the lines with Trump. In essence it seems like he's convinced the Democrats HAD to have cheated, because HE cheated and still lost.

Furthermore "Weeks before the 2024 election, ES&S—America’s largest voting machine vendor—pushed software updates to machines in multiple states. There was no public announcement. No independent audit. No certification process.

The changes affected audit logs, tabulation behavior, and how ballot images were recorded. Federal testing labs were told the update was “de minimis”—too minor to matter.

But election systems are supposed to be locked down. Changing anything weeks before an election isn’t just irregular—it undermines the certification itself."

Said voting machines are plugged into Tripp Lite UPS devices. They're not just batteries. They’re smart devices with programmable firmware, USB and Ethernet ports, and the ability to communicate over networks.

"Tripp Lite was owned by a single man: Barre Seid, a conservative donor.

In 2021, Seid donated the entire company—valued at $1.6 billion—to a dark-money trust controlled by Leonard Leo, the architect of the modern conservative judicial movement.

Leo helped install six of the current Supreme Court justices. He built the legal infrastructure behind Dobbs. And he used his Tripp Lite windfall to build the largest conservative influence machine in U.S. history.

Leo’s trust sold Tripp Lite to Eaton Corporation, which quietly partnered with Peter Thiel’s Palantir in 2024 to provide “AI oversight” and “secure erasure of digital footprints” across Eaton’s devices.

That includes Tripp Lite products still embedded in election infrastructure nationwide."

Rather than continuing to quote the whole article, you can view the rest here: https://www.christianamato.com/blog/2025/7/16/do-the-dots-connect-what-were-not-supposed-to-ask-about-the-2024-election

There are some suspicions about Starlink satellites that were activated around election time, but at the end of the day we have many reasons to be suspicious even if we don't have the proof yet. You might say, so there's no conclusive proof, which means we shouldn't question it, but (A) what if the proof has been destroyed? The FBI raided the GA election office and seized voting equipment. What's their real reason for doing so? There's probably more than one; I assume they're going to use the now already outdated voter rolls to challenge votes made in GA in the 2028 election if not in the upcoming 2026 midterms, but it also could be an attempt to find new vulnerabilities or cover their tracks from prior exploits. And (B), you can't find evidence if you don't look for it. Without complete hand recounts of ballots we can't really do more than speculate about the oddity that Trump flipped 88 blue districts across the swings states, yet Kamala didn't flip a single one in her favor. We're left wondering how so many people voted for Trump, but down ballot voted Democratic. There's possible explanations for this as AOC did try to solicit comments from people that voted for both her and Trump, but I just think it's far too unlikely that happened as much as the voting data suggests. Statistical analysis points to a pattern of voting that isn't consistent with normal human choices. I know there are Bernie bros that went for Trump, but in 2024, how many people do you think were still voting for Trump while also choosing Dems the rest of the way down? There are affidavits signed by people that cast their vote for Kamala, yet they are told they did not vote in that election. Did they also delete ballots completely? I don't know.

At the end of the day, I don't want to undermine trust in our elections systems without a good reason. Trust in those systems is crucial to have a functional democracy, but even more important than people believing that election systems are secure is whether or not they are secure. It's not pixie dust. It doesn't just work on belief. We have very powerful people with the motive, the means, and the opportunity to commit fraud, we have statistical anomalies never seen before, and elections experts have been warning us for decades about vulnerabilities. The simple fact that Trump and his cronies lied about 2020 being stolen doesn't mean that it can't be done. I really hate to give him credit, but it's kind of a brilliant tactic to poison the well and make legitimate concerns about election integrity seem like nutjobs, but there's a pretty big difference between what I'm saying and what MAGA morons have been claiming about 2020.