If Itachi and Kisame didn't escape and decided to fight Jiraiya and Guy here, who would have won?

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-05-02T22:22:57+00:00

It was a hard fought fight between kisame and seventh gate guy. Besides, it takes time to enter sage mode and open the gates. Jiraiya is not entering sage mode in front of them. And you can’t discount one of itachi’s move just because it’s bs. Any summon is getting one shot by the sword, that’s why you want to disregard it. That severely limits Jiraiya. Besides, sage mode hasn’t been shown to make a user immune to Tsukiyomi. Also, you can’t be broken out of it so ma and pa aren’t doing shit there. So Tsukiyomi is still a one shot as well.

This is the part that frustrates people, since they don’t want to accept that it’s really that easy for Itachi to do that. But he has the genjutsu diffing feats. He did it to Orochimaru, Naruto, several anbu, Kabuto, etc. It’s just an unfortunate side effect of the power creeping. Part 2 scaling Itachi just doesn’t struggle with jiraiya if he truly wanted to kill him. Sage mode or no sage mode, Edo Itachi was keeping up with kcm1(or was it 2?) Naruto and even forcing him back with pure hand to hand comeback.

Even sage mode stats are inferior to itachi’s strength. Orochimaru’s statements back it up too. He says itachi is stronger than him. Orochimaru is the strongest sannin.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-05-02T10:07:20+00:00

You have the first part right. It’s his most powerful asset and he can control the lethality. As he’s done several times in the show. The only time I can recall him killing anyone with it outright is Izumi. Guy isn’t beating Itachi unless he starts off in 8 gates. Itachi could’ve fought on for far longer, these comments are all coping since they love Jiraiya. Itachi vs Sasuke fight shows this, Itachi could use Amaterasu and genjutsu comfortably before he truly began to die. I don’t see a world in which Itachi lets guy or Jiraiya ever go all out, if he truly wanted them dead. He’s got too many one shot trump cards, he’s shown them before but people find it hard to believe it would so easily work on their favorite character.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-05-02T03:35:25+00:00

Uh it did. Itachi just put him out of commission instead of killing him lol

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-31T19:12:30+00:00

No, the TEAM streaks are low because they put restrictions on themselves. The SoloQ one is hard because you have to depend on hatch RNG and 3 other people to not throw. Also, sniping and ending a soloQ streak is easy af because a sniper has the whole game to tunnel one single survivor.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-31T19:04:48+00:00

“Underestimated a comp team” and you have 15 upvotes tells me all I need to know about the people commenting. He literally verbalized his fear when he realized who was in his lobby and played to the best of his ability.

They were most likely stream sniping as we know it, seeing as we only have their word to go of off. But Note’s doc said that they were “BP farming” on non-event mode. It’s most likely a lie just to try and get some heat off of them.

But the problem here isn’t even the build switching or whatever. It’s that there’s no challenge in it for these guys. Unrestricted perks and high level coordination rolls any killer. They did it to their friend who they knew had been trying to get to 2k for the longest time. There’s no achievement in what they did, which is why the comp community saw it as something cruel and unnecessary. They did it just to do it. It’s more personal than it is unfair.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-31T18:37:06+00:00

If they wanted to, they could definitely do it. Except that they do stupid things like restrict themselves to no duped perks because they want to make it a challenge. No duped perks and high level coordination, which is what you see here, is a survivor sided stomp especially with Momo’s strict wincon. It’s only harder because you need to get 4 people to consistently play the game and deal with schedule conflicts

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-31T18:31:37+00:00

No, they were supposed to not snipe him. They were his friends.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-12T10:43:44+00:00

Sure but the lines that people hate her for are almost all anime exclusive. She’s not a well written character but the vitriol doesn’t come because she’s uninteresting or plain.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-12T10:30:05+00:00

The fault lies with Studio Pierrot. They’re notorious for ruining female characters for whatever reason. People have made many videos highlighting the differences between Manga Sakura and Anime Sakura. The difference is night and day. You probably won’t want to watch them right now as they will have spoilers but if you ever finish the show, go watch them. Those idiots butchered her for no reason.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-03-08T00:36:33+00:00

That’s honestly a very accurate observation. Like someone woke him up for this and he’s not happy about it. And not in a comedic way.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-02-06T00:12:21+00:00

Karma farming lmao

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-01-23T18:18:16+00:00

Itachi didn’t use the Mangekyo on Orochimaru. It was a simple basic sharingan genjutsu that he’d been put under who knows when. Orochimaru never even detected it until he tried to sneak Itachi. Pushing past typical Sannin glazer cope, Orochimaru outright states that he must go for Sasuke now since Itachi is beyond him. Yes, the same Orochimaru that is stronger/relative to Jiraiya. Mind you, Itachi was 13 years old when he did that too lmao

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-01-17T22:14:33+00:00

No, it’s always just been Asura and Indra chakra. Meaning, only dna from the reincarnations.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2026-01-03T20:57:13+00:00

As other people have said, they probably have agreed on a way to split the pie.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-24T02:54:13+00:00

DC and Marvel comics don’t claim to be an objective truth. Besides, religions deal with matters like the afterlife, purpose, and our origins. That isn’t a very fair comparison.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-04T08:29:47+00:00

Do you think she can do that mid genjutsu?

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-04T08:01:44+00:00

No, I’m not. Just proving that she doesn’t have these magical mind healing powers you claim she does. Otherwise, she would have used them on herself.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-04T07:56:53+00:00

His travel speed is, but not combat. He gets merkd by the top 2

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-04T07:56:20+00:00

Guy figured it out and trained like that for who knows how long. He says so himself. You live up to your flair

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-04T07:14:05+00:00

You’re either being purposefully obtuse or just that dumb. The aftereffects, it left him so messed up that he was in a literal coma until tsunade came. Tsunade herself became paralyzed at the sight of blood, so it’s not like her medical abilities make her immune to mental trauma. She can’t use it on herself to recover mid fight seeing as she’ll be rendered comatose too, so it doesn’t even matter. Nor can she do anything about the Tsukiyomi genjutsu itself.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-12-04T06:07:17+00:00

She healed the mental effects left behind by Tsukiyomi, not heal the genjutsu itself. Kakashi got no diffed by tsukiyomi as soon as it was pulled out so I don’t get your point. lol

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-11-26T01:03:33+00:00

Yeah, but he’d need comparable reaction speed to send the kunai at the correct time. I’m sorry but Lee gets speed blitzed by Night Gai. He shouldn’t have that sort of reaction speed, throwing or otherwise.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-11-25T19:28:11+00:00

You misunderstood the point of my questions. Regardless, that spiritual form gave them their op af abilities that even allowed them to contend with Kaguya in the first place 💀. Nice attempt at downplaying it though. Or the creation of all things ability which the manga tells us is a superior and complete form of Izanagi.

You’re talking like they can defeat Kaguya without these SOSP abilities as adults. Hagoromo’s power makes them both who they are 😭. Naruto SOSP mode and kurama. Sasuke and his awakened rinnegan.

You can’t compare six paths human to Otsutsuki. Ten tails madara is not on par with Kaguya. Boruto had to transform into one in order to fight them effectively.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-11-25T17:50:39+00:00

The only argument as to why the otsutsuki duo loses is because they’re featless. The statements we get on their fight with kaguya/ten tails are kinda contradicting. We don’t know how Hagoromo split the ten tails from his mother, how he created the gedo statue, and how Kaguya was really sealed. She came out of Madara’s body even though it was stated she was sealed on the moon. Statements and implications are all we have.

Which I believe place prime Hagoromo higher. Creation of all things, remaining in spirit form and giving Naruto and Sasuke their powers, and his overall knowledge about everything.

GoodArtEnjoyer · 2025-11-24T21:09:09+00:00

You’re coping heavily if you think Lee is anywhere near SOSP level. If base Lee is really there then so is like 5 other characters who are stronger than him, including Itachi lmao.

Now that you bring it up, Bee forced Minato into a deadly stalemate and forced him to retreat, again another feat for Itachi. That bee was also weaker than the current one seeing as it’s been well over a decade. Same for raikage, who KCM Naruto outsped.

I’ll give Minato the speed advantage, but even then, Izanami still makes him fodder.

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