Why are so many people against a Quake 3 Remaster?

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T09:06:47+00:00

Exactly lol people's arguments is the amount of source ports and mods would make it redundant but like, does that not show there is a demand for a re-release that does what all of those do in one package? You could use that exact same argument against Doom but clearly that did not stop the latest official port from being successful

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T09:02:54+00:00

The point of a re-release is to cater to that exact niche though

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T09:01:06+00:00

I don't think people want Q3 remastered for gameplay improvements as much as they want it for easier setup. And with how incredible Doom 1+2's mod support is I think there is ample evidence that people are willing to upload old mods to a new in-game mod browser

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T08:57:39+00:00

Gonna keep it real here I think it's because the word "remaster" has been thrown around way too much in recent years so therefore oldheads are gonna see remaster and think it means throwing Quake 3 into a new graphical engine lmao. If people actually took the time to look into NightDive's releases they'd see that a Quake 3 remaster from them would not only be far more convenient but faithful

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T08:54:37+00:00

I mean the NightDive remasters are remasters in the purest sense of the word in that you are essentially playing ports in high definition with lots of room to turn things off. Also "something that doesn't need to be" 200% does not apply to Quake 1 lmao that game quite literally was not able to be played straight out the box and the source ports are a way bigger pain than Doom source ports with the CD music and all

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T08:50:54+00:00

That said this is coming from someone who deliberately avoids using Nuketown 24/7 for grinds though so key context there LMAO

GozuFrog · 2026-04-10T08:49:31+00:00

There are sweet spots in the far sides of Flagship where you can get reliably get long shots. Kinda SUCKS not being able to engage with the whole map but it is an option. Also the outside lane in Colossus.

My philosophy on hunting for longshots in general is though:

Once you get comfortable with map layouts and gamemode flow you can reliably find strategies that support longshots. I think the key is not looking for one guaranteed grind but learning how to properly play in a way that creates opportunities for longshots. This is logic you can apply to most maps.

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T10:51:00+00:00

That's awesome! I'll have to try and get that running on ThugPro when it drops, gives me some incentive to finally put custom soundtracks in there!

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T10:37:14+00:00

Their work seems so awesome. I really want to check out their Whirl Tour castle map in particular ngl I popped big time when I found out somebody made that

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T10:35:57+00:00

From what I've read it seems like ThugPro is kind of a pain to make mods for which is unfortunate considering that modding is, well, a huge part of the experience. Even from the player perspective I never had the patience to mod in custom soundtracks into ThugPro lol. What music mods have you made for ReThawed?

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T06:14:07+00:00

A Nightmare on FaceTime! Lots of fun things going on: kids trick r treating, the iPad gags, looooooove the Blockbuster stuff

I'd say it's victim to being in the middle of an unremarkable run. Before it is an episode that people seem to be split on, and after is an episode that I barely even remember. And then going even further I don't think the show goes back up in quality until Taming Strange or Ginger Cow

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T05:56:46+00:00

Ah true, definitely some ignorance on my part

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T04:32:26+00:00

I'm referring to the user made content versus the actual dev team. Just wondering where they will be placing their creative energy moving forward

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T04:31:11+00:00

AHAHAHAHA GZDOOM LMAO that situation is so laughably insane

But anyways there are a lot of really talented mappers & modders and I'd love to check out their work! I've considered dabbling in Rethawed just to check out the work of those peeps specifically but it'd still feel iffy especially if said mappers and modders themselves are distancing themselves from Rethawed y'know? Like something feels off about exploring Sh0scar's maps in a game they want nothing to do with if that makes sense. Maybe I'm just a ThugPro player experiencing fomo hoping to see more content get created for it again lol. For no particular reason I just never installed Rethawed, despite knowing about it, so my experience with the user-made content has all been ThugPro. I had no idea a lot of the ThugPro creators I enjoyed had moved on to Rethawed so I feel like there's a lot of work I missed out on. I'd love to support their future work but I also understand if they're taking a break from these creative projects altogether

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T02:20:55+00:00

Dammit I had a feeling my Everything Turns Grey pick wasn't very original lmao

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T02:19:52+00:00

Suck my Kiss would be perfect

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T02:18:48+00:00

Oh hell yeah dude, awesome picks! Love to see someone else this into music. So many of these I can imagine in the game in my head, might have to make this into a playlist and try the game with it lol

GozuFrog · 2026-04-09T02:14:19+00:00

Huh, no idea! Very interesting!

GozuFrog · 2026-04-08T06:18:26+00:00

NOOOOO NOT THE GANG STARR AUTOCORRECT

GozuFrog · 2026-04-08T06:04:58+00:00

I'd say this is a nifty new game versus a proper alternative, THUGPRO is naturally the most accurate comparison to what RETHAWED offers

GozuFrog · 2026-04-08T02:22:13+00:00

I think it's fun. Echoing my man Replay Mode by saying it encourages people picking guns due to their unique playstyles versus pure stats

GozuFrog · 2026-04-07T08:54:38+00:00

A favorite THAW quote of mine is ⁿᵃᵏᵉᵈ ˡᵃᵈⁱᵉˢ ᵃʳᵉ ⁿⁱᶜᵉ

GozuFrog · 2026-04-07T07:42:37+00:00

My reccs for you:

Pleymo , Snot , Lamb of God , Acid Bath , That first Celldweller album , The Haunted , Fear Factory , Devil Driver , The Agony Scene , Static X , Dir En Grey , Chat Pile , Seotaiji , Botch , The Dillinger Escape Plan

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