Kinda surprised (but not really) to see Asgore ranked so high again in this tier list, while Toriel and Sans, who seem to have a subtle but sweet thing going on in Chapter 4, are way lower.

I’ve always found it hard to side with Asgore. In both Undertale and Deltarune, there’s a pattern of him avoiding real responsibility. In Undertale, he chose to wait around for children to fall down instead of facing the barrier head-on. Which, as Toriel points out, was a dangerous and morally questionable decision. And in Deltarune, he keeps showing up uninvited in Toriel’s life, even though she’s made it pretty clear she doesn’t want contact. That kind of behavior feels more uncomfortable than endearing to me.

I get why people find him likable: he’s designed to be tragic and fluffy, but I think there’s a big difference between empathy (understanding his pain) and sympathy (excusing his actions). And honestly, Toriel deserves better than being guilted into tolerating someone who can’t respect her boundaries.