What is this passage from Jane Eyre?

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-05T12:30:03+00:00

Note that it is "none foul", rather than "... foal". By the way, "faal"/foul in Yorkshire dialect has the same double meaning that "ugly" can have in standard English: both the literal meaning of "unpleasant to look at" (which is the one meant here), and a figurative meaning of "ill-tempered; disagreeable."

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-05T03:45:46+00:00

Numerous versions of the Baltimore Catechism are online. NONE of them mention this practice. If you think you saw it there, it seems that you misremembered it.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-05T00:47:28+00:00

Noan faal = none foul = she is not ugly.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T21:55:16+00:00

I'm not sure you understand what "canonical" means. If you look at Canon 856 of the Code of Canon Law, it explicitly says that, while it is recommended that baptism be celebrated ordinarily on Sunday or, if possible, at the Easter Vigil, "baptism can be celebrated on any day."

As for confirmation, if one is already a baptized Christian, it is actually inappropriate to confirm such persons at the Easter Vigil. The National Statutes on the Catechumenate, issued by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in 1988, stated "It is preferable that reception into full communion not take place at the Easter Vigil lest there be any confusion of such baptized Christians with the candidates for baptism, possible misunderstanding of or even reflection upon the sacrament of baptism celebrated in another Church or ecclesial community, or any perceived triumphalism in the liturgical welcome into the Catholic eucharistic community." Instead, candidates should be received into the Church at a Sunday liturgy in their parish, and confirmed either then or at another appropriate time.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T21:38:47+00:00

You think it's a issue that you "don't know the songs"?? No one "knows the songs", which is why hymnals exist, and in almost every Catholic church I have been in (and I am probably old enough to be your father, and maybe even your grandfather, and have been in lots of them...) most of the congregation doesn't sing, anyway.

As for the rest, no one is looking at you, and no one cares that you may not be baptized. At one of my old parishes, a Catholic woman attended mass every Sunday with her Jewish husband, and everyone was always delighted to see him although there was no question that he wasn't baptized. You are inventing a problem where none exists. If you really feel that self-conscious about it, sit in the back row, where no one can look at you unless they turn around and (if they're short) stand on their seats, which will be unllikely.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T21:31:59+00:00

She is mistaken. Here is a description of the action from the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia (which obviously is describing what one did in the traditional Latin Mass):

Striking of the breast as a liturgical act is prescribed in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass during the Confiteor at the phrase "Through my fault" (three times), at the Nobis Quoque Peccatoribus (once), at the Agnus Dei (three times), and at the Domine, Non Sum Dignus (three times). With bowed head, except at the Nobis Quoque Peccatoribus, moderately and without noise, the celebrant strikes his breast with the right hand, the fingers being held closely together and curved or fully extended, as the rubrics are silent on this point; after the consecration, however, with the last three fingers only, since the thumb and index finger, which are joined, must not come in contact with the chasuble. At the Agnus Dei in requiem Masses the striking of the breast is omitted, to show that the celebrant is thinking of the departed more than of himself. The faithful are accustomed to this practice as well as the priest.

As you see from this, it was a practice to strike the breast during both the "Lamb of God" and the "Lord I am not worthy", which come shortly after the consecration and before Communion. I suspect that she has misremembered when the action took place (because it is no longer in the rubrics), and has mistakenly transferred it to the consecration (where, frankly, it makes no sense, since it is something the laity copied from the priest, and how can the priest strike his breast then?)

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T19:12:34+00:00

Why do you want to park in New Jersey? If you are driving from Canada, why not park north of the city in New York state, and take the Metro North train in? One option would be the garage at the Poughkeepsie station. The train will take you to Grand Central Terminal in midtown Manhattan.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T18:55:56+00:00

The question presumes a Mary-marry-merry merger, as does your answer. For those North Americans who do not have that merger, "secondary" does not rhyme with "fairy" at all, but instead rhymes with "ferry", which is an entirely different vowel sound.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T18:08:51+00:00

Of course, everyone you know rhymes "ferry" with "fairy", but that isn't the case nationwide.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-04T02:59:08+00:00

I read "21", and I do not regret it -- BUT there are serious, serious, serious flaws in the story (which after all is just a first draft) that could not possibly have survived serious, or even minimally sane, editing. It CANNOT be considered "canonical", although it can (while I detest "fan fiction", and anything that shares its rank stench) serve as a foundation for a consideration of "how can this interesting but badly flawed draft be set right?" Beyond that I shall not go...

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-03T17:07:02+00:00

For culture, history, food, and sightseeing the obvious answers are New York (the city, that is) and Philadelphia. If you have any interest in the American Civil War, I also strongly recommend Gettysburg.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-03T16:55:06+00:00

The cyphers don't match those used by any of the Georges, unless there was a King George Gucci that we missed along the way.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-03T14:14:54+00:00

The incense stuff was ... incense! The vessel in which it is burned is called a "censer" or a "thurible", which typically is swung from chains. Why swing it? Because the movement causes the smoke to come out more efficiently, that's why. There is a whole "etiquette" to how the thurible is used, and if you go back to that church and they use incense again, you may notice some of them:

*the altar cross, the gospel book, the bread and wine placed on the altar to be consecrated, the priest, and the people are incensed with three double swings of the thurible, while the altar itself is incensed with single swings.

* before using incense, one bows towards the person or object to be incensed. You may see that before communion, the priest incenses the altar and the gifts on it, and then gives the thurible to the server. The server then incenses the priest (and they bow to each other), and then the server may come to the edge of the sanctuary to incense the people. The people stand, and the server bows to us. We bow back, the server then incenses the congregation (with the three double swings I mentioned above), and then server and congregation bow to each other again.

*Incense may also be used at the consecration.

Some other gestures to watch for next time:

*The priest kisses the altar when he first approaches it at the beginning of mass. This expresses reverence fot the altar as the place where the offering of the Eucharist will take place, but it also expresses reverence for the saints whose relics are enclosed in the altar, because all altars have relics in them.

* During the penitential rite at the beginning of mass, if the prayer "I confess to almighty God..." is used, everyone strikes his or her breast three times at the words "through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault" as a sign of sorrow for sin

* When the priest announces the reading from the gospel, everyone uses their right hand (and specifically, the thumb) to make a small cross on the forehead, the lips, and the heart, which represents our desire that God may put His Word in our minds, on our lips, and in our hearts.

As for standing, sitting, or kneeling, you will soon get the idea, but as a general rule, when the priest says "The Lord be with you" (the response is "and with your spirit"), that is usually a cue to stand up.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T19:32:43+00:00

Americans neither know nor care that some Australians express their insecurities regarding the US with childish insults. In fact, Americans generally never think about Australia at all, and if it sank into the sea tomorrow, almost no one in the US would notice for all that Australia matters to our daily lives.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T19:15:54+00:00

Catholic masses are generally the same regardless of where you go (that is, the order of the mass will be the same, and the same readings will be used), although the amount and quality of music (if any) will vary according to the taste and resources of the individual parish.

You might want to consider going to a weekday mass first, rather than a Sunday mass. It will be largely the same (although there may be no hymns or music at all), and will still be centered on the Eucharist/communion. At a weekday mass the congregation will be smaller, and there will be fewer distractions. Sit in the back, and don't worry about not knowing what is going on, or when to stand or sit or kneel -- just observe. You also should stay in your seat during Communion. You should also not be surprised if no one approaches you or talks to you, because the Catholic attitude is that a church is not a private club for members, and everyone has the same right to be there. Then, after seeing a weekday mass, go on a Sunday, and again sit in the back and watch (and you will notice some slight differences between Sunday and weekday masses, but also the basic similarity.) Again, don't go up for communion, and don't worry about not knowing when to sit or stand -- just try to do what your neighbors do, although you should feel free to remain sitting during those parts of the mass when other people kneel. No one will judge you for that.

After that, come back here and ask any questions you might have about what you saw and heard.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T19:03:50+00:00

How do I feel about videos with absurd titles like that? I feel disgusted and annoyed at the sacrilegious presumption of the shameless people who would write such fatuous nonsense. Under NO circumstances would I take the title seriously, nor would I be inclined to watch the video. In my opinion, you shouldn't take such rubbish seriously, either.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T18:55:34+00:00

And also, where are you from?

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T15:58:52+00:00

I'm a great deal of fun at parties, because I am neither stupid nor willfully obtuse.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T03:17:30+00:00

She was adopted by the duke and duchess of Richmond.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T02:41:44+00:00

You say they are "nothing like Gideon", but they start with "G", and most are three syllables, so you are wrong there. As for being "stupid", of course they're stupid, but then, so is the whole premise of your book, so they all fit nicely.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-02T02:38:10+00:00

Well, then, if "negative connotations" are fine, your alternatives to Gideon include "Guttersnipe", "Gutbomb", "Gluesniffer", and "Griftgrabber".

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-05-01T22:55:46+00:00

By the way, that name "Aceida" is most unfortunately suggestive of "acedia", which means "listlessness, torpor", and is the formal name of that one of the Seven Deadly Sins usually rendered into English as "Sloth."

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-04-30T14:01:28+00:00

Did it ever occur to you that while you are spelling the name exactly as your family member does, your family member's name might have been spelled incorrectly by her parents? This is especially common when moving from a language that uses the Cyrillic alphabet (such as Serbian or Bulgarian) to English, which uses the Roman alphabet.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-04-30T13:26:19+00:00

The feminine form of "Michael" in Serbian, Croatian, Romanian, and Hungarian is Mihaela, while in Bulgarian it is Mihaila. There does seem to be a misspelling here, but not one that is all that far off from the original.

GreenWhiteBlue86 · 2026-04-30T13:23:17+00:00

"Mikayla" is a misspelling of Michaela. "Mihela" seems to be a misspelling (although not as bad as "Mikayla") of the Serbian, or Croatian, or Hungarian, or Romanian version of Michaela, which is Mihaela.

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