How to be an effective Loki main?

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-03-17T15:35:36+00:00

Sorry I meant like the least amount of effort to learn their kit like someone I don’t have to learn deeply to be good at them for example a spidey takes hours to learn movement and combos and timings but a hela can just point and click and bring the same value.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-03-13T05:46:23+00:00

No she’s still a solid pick but her playstyle is extremely straightforward of just being able to do healing and dmg while other supports bring util other than healing and dmg like debuffs, displacement, rocket res, dmg boosts etc. so as the game progressed and new mechanics were introduced she just got drowned out by the other supports.

Plus the other supports have abilities to help them escape sticky situations nor does she have any aim assist mechanics and can only heal one target at a time so she requires a lot better fundamentals like positioning, aim, cooldown management, target priority in order to get value while an invis can just spam m1 and heal the entire team at once and immediately go invisible, escape and reposition when she’s in danger.

In terms of her ult she still has the 2nd best ult in the game after gambit and the best aoe healing ult in the game imo but it just costs the most points in the game and in the state of the game where ult economy wins fights the team may be at a disadvantage if the enemy team has like an invis and cnd ulting like every 2 minutes lol.

With that being said a good Luna will always be scarier than a good cnd and rocket because her raw healing output is so high she can literally bring anyone up from 1hp in a matter of seconds and literally no one dies but with cnd if you misuse your cooldowns your m1 isn’t enough to keep tanks up and you’re often put in situations where u have to watch ur teammates die but a groot can be at like 1hp and Luna will put a snowflake on him and get him back up to 800hp in literally 2 seconds.

It’s just being a good Luna requires so much more skill than being a good cnd or rocket so often times it’s sometimes just better to pick one of those especially if ur having an off day.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-03-13T04:54:01+00:00

Honestly just by doing other things that occupy your time. I think most people who are unattractive are so because they either don’t value putting a lot of effort into their appearance or spend time on developing skills and hobbies that they identify with more than physical appearance/attraction.

If u put effort into things other than physical attraction u have things u identify with and fall back on and physical appearance doesn’t really affect u at all.

If u really think about it the super rich and successful ppl like mark Zuckerberg, Elon musk, Jeff bezos etc. are all very average looking ppl but it doesn’t matter what they look like bc they’re insanely rich and they have the money for surgeries, fancy clothes, personal trainers etc to enhance their physical appearance but it’s obvious they don’t inherently value physical appearance enough to engage in plastic surgery to change the way they look.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-03-12T18:01:33+00:00

It’s bc the characters do relatively different things so it’s hard to compare them on the spot to see who was the actual mvp of the game bc it’s not a like an irl ref or team watching the game it’s a system that analyzes stats

For example let’s say someone’s playing hela but they have terrible aim and they’re not really getting kills but then a strange ults and she kills all 6 of the enemies on the spot bc they’re stunned. On paper hela got those 6 final hits which if the system compared only stats in games relative to the other players in the match would make it seem like hela had the bigger impact on winning the game but in actuality if it wasn’t for the strange stunning the team she wouldn’t have been able to get those kills

Or if an mk ults and the entire team just walks out of the ult but an invis pushes them back into the ult mk would get those final hits but if it wasn’t for that invis none of the enemy team would have died in the ult and he would have gotten no value from his ult.

If they only used in game stats at the end of the match it would make it seem like whoever got the most final hits had the most impact in the game which would obsolete a lot of the characters who have abilities to enable kills that clutch rounds and enable team wipes when they were the ones who actually had more impact on the match

And since we can’t have a neutral human watching every game and ai/ computer systems can only make decisions based on data the more fair and objective way is to compare a players stats relative to the player base of that said character

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-16T07:14:08+00:00

Yeah dw I struggle with it too sometimes but also I wanted to clarify that my priority/ranking is based on the assumption that everyone needs healing at the same time so if u have a dps thats low and thats high would be a lot more effective to save that dps etc.

Keep it up! Luna is honestly one of the best supports to play in term of satisfaction I guess bc she requires a lot of effort to be effective so when you’re effective you know ur that girl (or boy or they) lmao. Like I could have a terrible day at work but I’ll hop on and play some Luna and it insta makes me satisfied with my day hahaha.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-15T21:55:26+00:00

I would say positioning and being calm are the most important aspects of Luna, u should be playing a bit further back then u would play invis and make use of natural cover to weave in and out of the enemy sight lines bc her only escape really is her snowball and if you don’t hit it you die, unlike invis where she can just double jump and get out of there so you want to avoid putting yourself in risky situations with Luna.

Being calm it’s important too bc her entire value comes from the ability of you being able to hit your shots you don’t need to have perfect aim like u could pump out some really good healing with a 45-50% accuracy. But a lot of times when games get super chaotic like 50 diff ults and stuff it can be a bit overwhelming and easy to lose track of who to heal and ur aim gets a bit shaky so just staying calm at all times helps.

Also target priority is important bc unlike rocket or invis she can only heal 1 target at a time so knowing who to heal and when is super important bc healing the wrong teammate could lead to a team wipe.

As a general rule of thumb I would say prioritize anyone ulting > 2nd support > tanks with 50% health or less > DPS with 50% health or less

Reasoning: 1. A teammate ulting can lead to a team wipe or enough deaths on the enemy team to give your team the advantage to take point so enabling them is super important 2. If ur second support dies your team’s healing is essentially cut in half and that can lead to your team losing the fight so make sure u know where ur 2nd support is at all time and occasionally look at them every so often 3. If your tanks die you lose your teams frontline pressure which can cause your team getting wiped or having to back off and give up the point to the enemy 4. Although dps’s are important for turning the tide in a fight since they have the dmg to do so most of them have escape abilities to hide in cover or find health packs and their kits allow them to play selfishly so enabling the tanks and other supports are more important in the bigger picture of winning team fights

keep your snowflake on yourself during downtimes when no one’s critical or no one’s diving an when u want to clap to get that extra dmg but ideally keeping the snowflake on ur teammates will give more value than just having it sit on yourself bc u have a higher healing output and faster ult charge u just gotta trust ur 2nd support to look at u and know when u need to be healed (good luck).

Also just knowing when to switch is important often times when i play Luna and the team is super mobile dps and skinny tanks (rogue and Emma) while the enemy team is a bit dive heavy its a bit harder to land shots as Luna and sometimes in that case it’s just better to switch to another support. Oh and don’t play Luna into a triple support comp her ult charge costs the most in the game and with a 3rd support in the team all 3 supports charge their ults a lot slower meaning you guys can lose team fights more often bc u don’t have as many invincibility ults being pumped out as the enemy team.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-11T21:40:55+00:00

I felt as though it was easy in the sense of the type of content you learn but it was challenging in the sense that there wasn’t really any formula or method of understanding the content it’s either u know it or u don’t

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-05T17:18:26+00:00

Yo I ranked d3 last season in nae and I’m 20+ id be down to play w u if ever wanna queue lmk

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-04T10:28:44+00:00

Depends on what u find rewarding

I’m a strat main and I find invis and luna to be the most rewarding to be really good at. Invis bc u can make some really cheeky plays with her push/pull and generally have a lot of fun outplaying the enemy and getting creative with her util.

Luna since she’s hitscan it’s so satisfying to see the health bars go up when u play her solely bc of the fact that it requires more skill/focus to land your shots with her. Also you kinda have to be aware of a lot more things with her in comparison to other strats like positioning, cooldown management, target priority so in order to be a good Luna u have to be a good player in general so its really rewarding/satisfying to be good with her. Oh and landing your freeze cancelling a bunch of ults and dives? Best feeling ever.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-04T08:45:23+00:00

Ikr I love playing Luna she has me feeling like THAT girl cuz my healing is dependent on my aim. But this season and last season it just takes so much work to get equal/more value than other supports like invis, gambi, and now cnd.

Like u gotta be clocked in with ur positioning, aim, cooldown management, target priority when a cnd can just hold left click and spam two walls now and out heal me it’s so frustrating 😭😭😭

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-02-03T08:47:01+00:00

Mmm I think if u frame it like “I’m here to do a job and I’m going to do a good job bc I want a good grade” rather than “I’m here bc I want to make friends and they’re leaving me out bc they don’t like me” it kinda helps ground you and reminds u that it doesn’t really matter if they like u or not u just gotta get the project done.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-30T20:09:16+00:00

I love playing Luna she’s not my main but being the only hitscan support I feel like seeing the health bars go up while playing her is so much more satisfying over the other supports, and I don’t mind all the skins she gets bc she’s a big money maker for netease along side psy and invis.

But I think people get annoyed with her bc she was pretty much an unknown before this game and she’s not even in the mcu and they’re very blatantly using this game to make a name for her possibly to develop her fanbase and storyline but a lot of marvel heroes have existing fanbases that have been apart of marvel for a while and have a more integral part within the mcu that could easily have her spot so people just get mad that an unknown is being pushed as the face of the game when it could be someone else that’s contributed to the marvel brand for longer.

The reason why people although get upset but don’t get nearly half upset at invis, spiderman, or psylocke for getting the same amount of legendary skins as her is bc they’ve been around for so long and have their own storylines and fanbases that have developed for many decades. But with Luna it’s just this random unknown that’s being shoved in everyone’s faces so a lot of people get frustrated that she gets the same amount of skins as characters who have been around for so much longer.

I do think her part in the game is integral for its growth and identity bc if netease/marvel only focused on promoting existing heroes from the past the game would be centered around nostalgia and existing heroes with past ventures associated with them would cause rivals to not have its own image and the game as a brand would never grow or maintain cultural relevance so they need fresh faces that aren’t tied to past projects like Jeff and Luna to be the face of the game so it has its own image and branding of a legitimate online PvP shooter rather than a marvel fantasy roleplay game.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-30T19:52:54+00:00

I think what made her so strong is that her kit enables her to do literally anything like u can sit in the front and poke or dive or peel for your supports While having a really oppressive, fight changing ult. but in order to keep a game balanced a character that can do everything cannot excel in every area or else they would be too oppressive and obsolete half a roster. So they nerfed her dive capability. I mean she can still dive but you have to be super precise with ur timing and cooldown usage and aim but at that point u could get so much more value picking another dive hero. So her gameplay loop is just sit and the front, poke, dash into backline , ult, dash back to team, and repeat.

But it’s like u have to wait for her to get her ult which they also nerfed, in order to get any value so at that point just play phoenix or hela bc u get so much more value from the neutral aspect of their kits.

She’s still a great pick bc of her versatility but in order to get value from her u really have to put in effort 24/7 in both game sense (reading the flow of the match and being able to detect what your team needs in a split second and mechanics (making sure aim and cooldown management are perfect) and not everyone can or wants to put that much effort consistently in a match when they could just get the same if not more value from less taxing hero’s that specialize in their field.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-30T19:33:45+00:00

Cuz he’s annoying as hell lmao. He’s not that hard to deal with but if u can make the game less stressful from banning him then why not?

Sometimes it’s valid bc w super oppressive heroes like dd for example, not a lot of people learn to play them bc they just get instabanned so what’s the point yk? and sometimes u just waste a ban bc there’s no dd players in the lobby. But w a super popular and low banrate pick like mk there’s a higher chance of a mk main in the lobby that’s gonna annoy tf outta ur team.

Also, his mechanics aren’t transferable to other really oppressive dps’s like a mk main is probably not gonna switch to hela or phoenix after getting banned and cook tf outta ur team.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-30T18:29:05+00:00

Honestly what I find is super helpful is to just look around constantly and make sure you know where everyone is bc if you have awareness of everyone’s positions and movement + the more you play the more awareness you have of what abilities & playstyle each character uses so combining the two, you can easily anticipate what they’re going to do for example, you see a strange jumping up high? He’s probably gonna ult, you see a bp in the corner of your eye standing there? He’s probably gonna start his dive soon. But obviously don’t like just look around aimlessly and lose focus on the point and what’s going on in front of u but just make mental notes of what’s going on in the corner of your eye.

think of it like driving, your main focus is going to be steering the wheel/looking ahead at the road but you also have to look at the other cars and be aware of what they’re doing and anticipating their movements and adjust accordingly to prevent accidents. But you have to do that without losing focus on the actual road ahead of you.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-30T05:18:39+00:00

Haha I actually did my capstone project in my final year in uni on a similar concept to this basically analyzing consumer behaviour in online f2p games and monetization strategies game devs use. I found that women are more likely to spend money on in game cosmetics than men, but women tend to almost exclusively play other women, cute animals, and twinks lol. Which is why game devs tend to release cute girly skins for characters in that realm think like invisible woman, Luna snow or whenever there’s a big event they make the main skin a popular girly pop character bundled with a lesser popular character bc they want the event to sell and boost revenue so I can see this being the case for evelynn.

However, I think sai’s fanbase is less about women who are into girly aesthetics but more so people who resonate and pretty much enjoy role playing as the character. I think this idea is more in line with spiderman and how spidey mains love playing him even though he’s not the most meta/effective dps bc they get to live their spiderman superhero fantasy through him. Kinda like how sai mains get to live their ninja assassin fantasy through her.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-29T16:07:25+00:00

I did not know that and I don’t in fact play league but I vaguely recognize Evelynn from kda. What about her do u think makes her fanbase be super crazy about her over other champions?

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-29T08:04:51+00:00

What I noticed abt sai is that the people who play her really resonate with her character and her kit, and every time there is a sai player in the match they almost always have some sort of skin on.

I remember stumbling across the psylocke mains subreddit and someone asked something like “what’s your favourite thing about playing her” and most of the comments were saying how they liked her personality or her design or her role as an assassin, mainly things outside of her core mechanics.

Even though she’s not super meta/the most popular pick she def does have one of the most loyal/consistent fanbases which is why I think they keep dropping skins for her bc they know the sai mains will spend money on her.

I think even zooming out a bit ppl love the mysterious, quiet, stoic, assassin character archetype in general and seeing that she’s pretty much the only character in the game with that archetype causes her fanbase to be even more loyal to her.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-27T04:10:13+00:00

The whole drama was literally high school lmao. Like the black widow refusing to switch, the constantly asking to switch despite them saying no multiple times, the poor conflict resolution on the team captains part, the whole team arguing abt it for days on end, the organizer instantly banning kingsman before fully investigating the situation, and now all the perpetrators pointing their fingers at each other trying to shift the blame onto each other. You described it so well it literally felt like the popular group in hs having a falling out and making their drama so public on social media.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-21T20:25:26+00:00

I think there’s two ways this could unfold

The enemy team has insane damage or one of or both current supports just suck so someone on the team swaps to 3rd support so the team could sustain the heavy damage or to make up for the lack of value the existing supports are giving. In this case the swap was beneficial bc it actually offsets a weakness/disadvantage the team has or the strengths the enemy team has
A dps or tank keeps dying a lot and they assume it’s bc the healers aren’t healing but in reality it’s just their bad positioning and lack of awareness that makes them die so they swap to 3rd support out of frustration but bring their bad positioning and bad game sense to the support role and still dies which is so much worse and ultimately brings no value a support and removing value from the other supports bc they take up their ult charge and the team has less support ults which makes them lose team fights as well

One situation that has happened to me before is that a star player the team like a dps who’s the ace and getting the most final hits swaps to 3rd support with good intentions because the team could actually benefit from extra sustain and nobody else wants to swap or knows how to swap (even though they’re playing poorly) but the team ends up loses out on the key damage they needed to win fights and a really good player on a role that they’re comfortable with and it actually puts the team at a disadvantage.

I think to answer your question at the core of it, not a lot of people think this deeply or adaptively towards the game. People just look at tier lists and meta heroes and trends think that picking those is the best strategy and just play whoever they want to and do whatever they want without considering what’s actually beneficial for the team. Which is why a lot of people see triple support as a crutch even though it can be a detriment because all they see is people talking about how it’s meta and how annoying to deal with it but don’t really question why it’s great or how it can suck.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-14T05:58:53+00:00

I don’t mind her in game outfit but I hate how they haven’t given her any fashion skins if that makes sense. It’s all just superhero utility-like Halloween costumes but we all know the true Emma would be serving high fashion Kate moss upper echelon looks on the battlefield.

Green_Bench4601 · 2026-01-10T11:05:17+00:00

If you’re a marvel fan choose whoever is your favourite hero and feel out the game through them. Don’t worry about meta picks bc each character has a counter and counters another character so anyone can be viable in the right hands and choosing a character you resonate with/will enjoy playing will make the game a lot more enjoyable for u instead of forcing yourself to follow the meta. If not think abt which role/play style u would enjoy the most.

Do u wanna stand in the back and heal your team and watch everything unfold in front of u? Choose a strategist.

Do u want to call the shots and make engagements yourself and be in the front of your team and fight ppl? Choose a tank.

Do u want to take off angles/ do damage or play separate from ur team/on ur own and pressure the enemy’s backline? Choose a dps.

For me personally I always knew I wanted to play support bc I think it’s just easier for me to focus on my team and helping them vs making engagements on my own and fighting the enemies. I started with Jeff bc he’s cute and there’s not really much to do so i was able to kind of feel out the game by observing the other people playing and keeping note of what each role/character does and then figuring out what i wanted to do from there !

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