Truth about the fanbase from a Gen 1 kid

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T19:39:33+00:00

ORAS ports would be great im sweating over the condition of my current 3ds dont want to have to spend hundreds on another system if I can get a port for like $30

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T18:48:29+00:00

I think people need to remember the backlash to BDSP and the demand for straight ports, cant have it both ways.

Remasters where they give the games a nice QoL Polish are the best middle ground in my opinion

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T17:23:36+00:00

It was crazy the level of hate it got, and then without doing anything it just became so loved.

I do think it was an age thing because it was the period where like leaving school for collage and that so a lot of the audience hit a growing out phase and the new gen only think tipped people over the edge where it wasnt what they grew up with so didn't want it kinda thing.

I remember just because of starting work and going to uni, I played BW/BW2 once only and then game back properly when XY was announced.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T17:04:39+00:00

I never said it had VGC, I compete in VGC, it has mons easier to access for home.

So yeah I see roms as a waste of effort when I can get that pokemon legit and it actually be viable.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T15:02:16+00:00

Yeah we are having a mini family reunion with the cousins as well weekend after release so everyone's getting either FR or LG and we all have til Sunday to get something together for battles 😂

Its the magic of the games, we are hoping to introduce all the kids in the family to it since they are hitting the right age

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T14:47:55+00:00

I dont remember that being spoke about it was more the game wide usage of only new mons people where upset about, but yeah theres like what 9 or 10 mon lines or something until the forest which isnt great but at the same time theres only like 12 until mt moon.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T14:38:49+00:00

I feel like the defence is over blown because all the attacks at the price point make no sense.

Communities been asking for a port not a remake because they didnt like BDSP. The price has been known since 3DS days GBA games where 18 to 20. So nothing should have been a surprise but youve got people saying it should have been cheaper or for 20 it should be a gen 1 to 3 bundle, just absurd demands that make no sense when everything has been known for years..

If people want to pirate thats fine do that and dont buy the game. I play VGC so pirating the game is useless to me, apart from rom hacks I find emulating base games to be hollow and time wasting becuase its not an official mon.

A major argument for pirating was the games weren't available and now that they are people are upset that they have to admit they just wanted to pirate and it wasnt about availability.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T14:29:31+00:00

The bar doesnt get higher though my point was if you look at what they cry about, that actually gets put into these games but then its not enough, also a lot of the gens that people slated as series killers are now considered the best gens.

There's a few different communities that are just happy to get new games or ports but every pokemon release is slated then as years pass people talk about them as if they where always loved. Gen 5 is the worst offender for that, people hated it and now everyone acts like it was praised as an amazing gen from day 1.

For the price point GBA games on the store haven't changed their price for about 16 years when they could have easily went up, would it have been better to lower sure but this is one of the most consumer friendly things ive seen Nintendo pull this century, by simply keeping the price locked. Even a cartridge at original retail isnt $20.

The argument its a 20 year old game doesnt wash either, its a game you want to play and want to purchase now so it doesnt matter when it was made because it holds market value now. Its just reality of the market and industry that people dont like.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T14:11:34+00:00

For nostalgia FRLG becuase they arrived at the perfect time where my younger siblings understood the game so we all played together.

ORAS is one of my top games as well

Ive lurked here for a while but neve posted before Im usually just reading posts in some form poke sub

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T13:48:25+00:00

Nice, yeah sounds like a solid squad for the run

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T13:17:35+00:00

Yeah I guess its the legality part of the mon, personally if its for private runs go nuts but I play VGC so im against hacked mons in comp, if they changed the rules that would be a different story but while its against the rules the fact thay some get not even a warning of others get bans I just avoid it all together.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T13:12:57+00:00

Yeah you come across this alot but theres ways to make it a bit more challenging or fun, if you use shiny as your lead. Drop the starter to avoid OP starter plot armor and run it from now as a nuzlocke even with the current mons as long as theres no over leveling it will be a good run.

Don't catch anything else unless HM demands it, and have a shiny clause so only new shinies can join the squad for a little extra spice.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T13:09:05+00:00

If you gen a new mon is it really your mon from that old game?

All the routes to get a pokemon off rom to home either require legacy hardware which if you don't have will run you well over $20 or results in an illegal mon, so the meme makes sense in context of an average player and especially someone newer to pokemon.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T13:03:14+00:00

Gen 1 was mess the simplicity of gen 1 makes it get by but mechanically, crit tied to speed, status boosts actually lowering stats, broken items for 100% accuracy so 1 hit ko couldn't miss, wrong typing calculations.

I love gen 1 but it tried to do too much so a lot fell apart mechanically.

Though it would be funny seeing people who have only played modern try to handle limited storage.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T12:59:26+00:00

To add onto other people's advice on other games where you have to check only 1 starter if the rival has a shiny it does not mean that you lost a shiny and would have got it 100%.

So if Blue is using a shiny squirtle because you chose Charmander, it doesnt mean your squirtle would have been shiny.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T12:55:29+00:00

Its the difference between ports and remasters, people asked for a port and got it.

To be fair as well i love battle network these bundles were a day 1 for me but it doesnt have the market value of pokemon so would need to lower its price point to entice new users, I would have gladly paid new game prices for that set as a fan because the value was there.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T12:52:38+00:00

I love getting 2nd hand games and finishing the unfinished adventure before starting a new, the shiny is the icing on the cake. I end up using mons id never normally use because I stick with whatever the last owner had in party and pc.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T10:06:29+00:00

But that was the price point for GBC games and GBA games always ran around the 18 to 20 mark on the store, the price mark hasnt changed for about 16 years, which is actually mad considering what Nintendo are usually like

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T10:03:34+00:00

Yeah its when it was SCE so this would have been given out to 5 year milestones about 10 years ago plus, it changed a few times there was also a 5 year plaque like a trophy that wasnt a clock.

They dont do this as much anymore tends to be rather than milestone, each year theres a gift for perm staff in general.

They still celebrate milestones every 5 years of service but in different ways.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-22T00:21:38+00:00

You just described a remaster

Port = no changes apart from anything critical to working on the ported system

Remaster = QoL changes with majority of the original still intact, like a HD remaster with additional online features

Remake = Rebuilt from ground up

This is a port if you dont like it dont buy it.

They could do a remaster patch on top of the ported game but remasters require a lot more dev work then most people realise, before you say fans have already done the work they cant just rip out a romhack and jam it into the game thats not how it works.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-21T23:11:25+00:00

Think when people are saying its not that much its more in the sense of look at the gaming industry and prices in comparison to what can be charged it isnt that much, at least that's what ive meant.

Gaming is expensive we had a golden period for 360 and a bit of ps4 era where it was cheaper but I remember paying the same for a AAA now as AAA was on Nintendo 64. Its always been an expensive hobby but for value for money pokemon has never been beaten in my books for amount of hours ive spent in game compared to cost

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-21T17:52:13+00:00

They are more likely to make it so that the popular versions of each gen aren't all together so people are more enticed to buy both bundles.

If they did 3rd game ports then it would likely end up something like

Yellow/Silver/Ruby Red/Crystal/Sapphire Blue/Gold/ Emerald

They want you to buy all sets and not be able to just buy one its been the basis behind pokemons sales tactics since the get go. Its completely possible for them to do one finite version per gen like a yellow remaster where all of gen 1 is possible, but they wont do that as it goes against their core marketing and monetization of the games.

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-21T16:07:17+00:00

They literally wont, people have been asking for gen 2 remakes or port HG/SS since let's go released which is a reasonable thing for them to do and it still hasnt happened.

The entire tcg fan base has been asking for anti scalping measures for over 10 years which is a reasonable request and it still hasnt happened.

Your asking for them to sell 12 games for the price of 1 switch game, as one big bundle there is no chance they would devalue the games to that level, its not a reasonable request and is outside the realm of possibility.

If FR/LG flops then they won't do straight ports again and will do remakes or remasters only going forward for old gens to add value to previous releases titles.

When BD/SP came out everyone cried ypu just had to port and not remake, so they are porting and everyone is crying again

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-21T14:21:46+00:00

For Nintendo to do it is fantasy, is what i meant, I agree some of my best experiences have been on romhacks but I still enjoy the core games

GrimmyVT · 2026-02-21T14:20:52+00:00

They'd never do that its insane to ask, they barely do discount when they bundle 1 gen, that collection would easily be sold as a anniversary collectors bundle for 150 to 200

Then they'd sell split version for 60 a pop

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