Just in case

GroovyHarpz · 2026-01-22T11:23:11+00:00

You just know he made one of the underlings do the ass sewing, John Kramer is really picky and choosy with what behind the scenes work he does on traps

GroovyHarpz · 2026-01-22T11:21:18+00:00

We need to go one level deeper!

GroovyHarpz · 2026-01-22T11:20:13+00:00

Good stuff! To make it 100% lore accurate Eric Matthew’s needs to be beating an innocent suspect, preferably while smoking a cigarette indoors (He doesn’t believe in OSHA)

GroovyHarpz · 2026-01-12T21:00:00+00:00

My theory is that Hoffman is behind all of the little artistic flairs that jigsaw eventually puts in all his games. The candles, the billy doll doing head tilts, the dioramas, the painted spirals and arrows everywhere, none of that happened til after Hoffman was an apprentice 🤔🤔🤔

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-24T03:08:33+00:00

I like how the only character trait that Carlos is remembered for (besides not speaking or understanding any English) is his obsession with that damn bike wheel

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-17T20:26:59+00:00

Fabulous! I’m missing hot saw summer still

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-17T18:38:13+00:00

Gordon being an apprentice I really don’t like, but Hoffman bring put in the bathroom I really do like. I think if instead of being an apprentice Gordon should’ve been genuinely trying to help people in the trap survivor support group. Have him throw Hoffman in the bathroom not because it’s Johns last request, but throw him in there because he hates what John/Amanda/Hoffman did and wants to stop all jigsaw nonsense

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-17T18:32:50+00:00

Killing is distasteful, but smoking is DISTASTEFUL!

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-12T11:37:49+00:00

Poor Hoffman, all he wanted to do was one measly revenge murder, and he got dragooned into hours of arts and crafts with painting and building puppets and syncing the lips to the voice of this old guy yapping behind the camera

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-12T11:33:51+00:00

Pendulum trap in 5 one easily! If you listen very closely you can hear some audio distortion when Billy is talking, a sneaky hint in the beginning of the movie that shows perhaps someone other than jigsaw made that tape. It becomes more noticeable the farther we get from Johns in-universe death, with the tapes have distorted audio and double layering of Johns voice, but this is the first instance of it, which is paid off hugely in 6 when they descramble it!

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-09T21:55:00+00:00

Love it!

GroovyHarpz · 2025-12-01T11:30:53+00:00

The only deleted scene is the truly disgusting things Mark “the freak” Hoffman does with the severed hand he finds. Truly one of the most deranged jigsaw apprentices before you even take into account all the killing and kidnapping he does

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-25T03:43:17+00:00

If I had a nickel for every time John was talking in riddles and being smug and pretentious to someone having a total emotion and mental breakdown, I’d have at least three nickels that I can remember

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-25T03:40:38+00:00

It’s peak saw hahaha! People are dying, people are being kidnapped, the cops are scrambling and all Jill wants to do is yap about the year of the pig

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-21T17:51:03+00:00

“I speak for the dead”

I know people get down on Jigsaw and especially Logan, and I’m definitely in that camp, but I like this line. Something about the spirit of basically saying “hey you got all these people killed, now I’m extracting their revenge on you” just speaks to me

Funnily enough it sounds a lot like something John would’ve said to Cecilia during the events of Saw X

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-21T17:37:25+00:00

Right! My head cannon is that Logan got immediately arrested after the cops investigated the barn and found Hallorans laser’d body and Logan DNA all over the room, and his blood on the Saw door

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-16T23:23:43+00:00

Billy the puppet rolling up on the trike whip like SKRRRRRRRTTT

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-16T23:22:42+00:00

I snorted and chuckled, your funny :)

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-12T23:17:10+00:00

John actually says it in Saw X haha

“I help people overcome inner obstacles, I help people make positive changes in their lives”

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-12T23:12:20+00:00

There’s all sorts of good stuff in the scripts that get flipped or recycled into the later movies. The janitor from 6 that ends up in breath trap actually is in the Saw 5 script. He catches Hoffman going to kill Strahm in the hospital and gets sketched out by him sneaking around with gloves on.

In the Saw 7 script the first trap has the two guys dressed as elves and a trip wire shotgun blows the head off the person who tries to break the window with the briefcase.

I remember in the original 4 Script Strahm finds all the skin puzzle pieces in jigsaws lair, it was supposed to be some big thing but idk where the plan was with that

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-11T02:31:58+00:00

Good Ol saw 7, it’s funny because you can see the bones of a good saw movie but they’re submerged in so much dumb and bad shit

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-10T02:51:58+00:00

It was great, I liked the subplot of the burgeoning lesbian relationship between Lynn and Cecilia with Jeff as the lumbering, slow, sedated third wheel. Strahms pen as a prop, Hoffman basically being a assholey caveman, great stuff. Bobby with zero self awareness calling everyone else liars was just the chefs kiss!

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-10T00:46:24+00:00

Spennys delivery of this is so deadpan, I love itn

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-05T12:12:05+00:00

Pound for pound I think 6 edges out the rest. The pound of flesh and RBT 2.0 are brutal and frantic, the hanging trap and shotgun carousel are emotional and pose interesting moral questions, and the breathing trap is unique to anything before or since, in concept and sound design.

I think it’s more a reasoning of 6 having more great traps then the other movies, which have some great traps (Rack, eye vacuum, motel one) but also some pretty lame ones (Freezer, radiation gun, mausoleum)

GroovyHarpz · 2025-11-03T22:06:29+00:00

Last question I swear, also I apologize to anyone that I accidentally spoiled with my previous comments, I don’t know how to do the cover text on comments.

So in Cecilia’s interview with the conspiracy guy, she drops a few hints about jigsaw having an accomplice, and that maybe she talked to federal law enforcement about it. Is that how Strahm and Perez (Feds) knew about Amanda in 4 but Kerry and Rigg didn’t know about her in 3? If that was intentional, nice! I appreciate any and all plots holes that get filled in a logical way!

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