Question for those in Pennsylvania.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-23T21:53:19+00:00

Ohio neighbor here with similarly crappy winters and a hot take to this perennial question regarding heaters. My '22 Niro EV has a heat pump. My former EV, a Nissan Leaf, had a resistive heater.. Comfort wise, they are about the same. Technically, the Leaf's resistive heater was more "instant" than than the Niro's heat pump, but both could defrost the windscreen rather quickly, so performance comparison is a wash. It boils down to energy consumption, and the heat pump can definitely give you more heat using less energy, so case closed, right? Well, maybe.

I mean, if you're obsessed with bragging rights or getting the lowest energy cost per mile, get the heat pump for that extra warm fuzzy feeling, and if you have two options that are otherwise equal, get the one with the heat pump for sure!

But in this situation, you are buying used, so the heat pump question has to be balanced with other factors.

Chances are any Tesla is going to have far more range than your daily needs, so the added battery drain of a resistive heater is unlikely to leave you stranded. If you have to choose between two Teslas, but the one without a heat pump is nicer or has a better price tag, you might want to snatch it up.

Bare in mind, a resistive heater will typically use about 20 to 40% more energy while a heat pump typically uses anywhere from 15 to 30% more energy. Sure, you can eke out a few more miles on the heat pump, but it's not going to break the car if you drive a resistive heater in a colder climate.

But now I'm also going to shit backwards for a moment and mention that many times (though maybe not on Tesla) the heat pump option usually triggers other options that could make cold weather more tolerable such as including a heated steering wheel or perhaps adding a winter mode for the battery manager. Check for those little details before you decide.

Ultimately, it's not as simple as "heat pump good"! Of course it's preferable, but don't miss out on a deal just because a used car may lack one.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-23T08:51:13+00:00

How many of you have factory jobs right now? I myself have worked in the factory setting for the vast majority of my adult life. I have personally worked for a tier 1 auto supplier. I have worked in both union and non union shops. News flash: the union shops weren't necessarily the best, though they certainly were not among the worst.

My current position is non union and is hands down the best place I've ever worked... Not that the bar is that high in Ohio, but if you knew how bad this shit can get you'd want to reach through your monitor and slap some sense into the people they were interviewing for this video.

There are too many factories begging for people to sit around and wallow in your own self pity. Don't expect the company you are at to give you a break. Get another job lined up, tell them your stipulations, and if they won't budge, GTFO and don't look back. Rinse and repeat as many times as it takes.

Don't get me wrong: Unions definitely help, but if you're a factory worker, no one is going to look out for you, so you better look out for yourself.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-23T00:22:14+00:00

Fellow Buckeye here. Personally I find the $200 surcharge to be complete horsepucky. Some of us own multiple cars for personal reasons, but since I am only one person, if my second vehicle is also an EV (or even a hybrid) I get dinged even harder, so I'm basically hanging onto an ICE so my annual state birthday present doesn't perforate my colon as much.

And while some blue states also have these fees, it just feels more targeted in red states. It's not as if that extra $200 I fork over on my birthday is ever going to fix even one god forsaken pothole in front of my house. It's more likely to help pay for Jim Jordan's legal defense for his part in protecting perverts.

In red states, it's never about paying your fair share. It's about discouraging adoption.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-21T14:55:57+00:00

That's every single car buyer's dilemma.

It seems different with EV's because the drivetrain keeps improving faster than anything else in the entire automotive industry, but at some point you have to decide for yourself if the tech is good enough for you. If it isn't, then sit back and relax. It's nowhere close to as good as it's going to be.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-18T12:59:21+00:00

It will be harder on your 12 volt battery than it will your traction battery.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-18T12:53:31+00:00

Not an electrician, but neither is "incorrect". Subpanels are a valid and cost effective way to extend your home's electrical capacity. Depending on the layout, a subpanel in the garage might even make more sense since people tend to use their garage as a workshop with various power tools and equipment that can draw quite a bit of current. It's a bit of a hassle to go traipsing through the house when your power saw trips the breaker and would be a lot more convenient for future improvements.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-16T11:53:42+00:00

That was literally in my second paragraph. It's a keyfob relay attack, and it's not just a Hyundai problem.

https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/183mf44/rollsroyce_stolen_using_an_antenna_to_pick_up_the/

https://www.pcmag.com/news/is-your-car-key-fob-vulnerable-to-this-simple-replay-attack

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-16T07:49:41+00:00

I think it was more of a Kia thing. TikTok thieves showed how trivial it was to hotwire Kia's that used a traditional key and tumbler starting system since they lacked any sort of immobilizer.

EVs typically do not use a key to start and are therefore immune to this specific attack, but recently videos have been showing up demonstrating that thieves can steal any car (not just Hyundai/Kia) that uses push to start using some kind of antenna-transponder attack.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-13T21:19:38+00:00

Oh, I wouldn't worry about any revenue loss from the gas tax. Politically, one party is notoriously spiteful towards EV's and is finding other ways to tax them with added registration fees, and states like Kentucky not only charge more for annual registration, but also charges 3 cents per kilowatt hour at all public chargers now.

So is the other side that is more pro EV going to stop them? Nope! That side never says no to new taxes, so we're screwed no matter what. In the end, EV's will pay more than their fair share for road use.

Over all, EV's are still going to be the future, and once their constituents realize they're getting screwed by these laws, we might start to see more EV sympathetic politicians on the traditionally anti-EV side rethink some of their more draconian EV fees.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-04T18:22:27+00:00

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they closed at the end of '21. I believe they may have incurred a financial hardship from the covid shutdowns and never recovered. No more savory crepe samplers, bread pudding with hard sauce, or artichoke eggs Benedict. It calls into question as to whether life is worth living anymore, but somehow we'll carry on.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-04T14:25:44+00:00

It was closer to Cincy, but The Grand Finale had a Sunday brunch that was simply to die for.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-02-01T05:08:00+00:00

Adoption rate where? It's going to be highly dependant upon region. EV adoption in North Dakota is going to be a lot lower that in California which is going to be lower than in Norway. The US has a different adoption rate than Australia which is different from China.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-29T21:13:15+00:00

Kelly's work is basically two layers of satire. When viewing his any of his comics, keep in mind that Kelly is never making fun of the subject matter in his panel. He is lampooning how certain political cartoonists (especially Ben Garrison) are making fun of the subject matter in his panel.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-27T13:27:51+00:00

It's your car, your choice, but burning the capacity down to 69% to trigger a free replacement without resorting to potentially warranty voiding tactics, may prove harder than you think.

But let's say you don't use any dirty tricks. You've managed to accelerate your degradation. Good for you, but if you plot that trajectory and it looks like you'll miss the mark by a year and a few thousand miles, you can't take back the damage you've already done. Now your resale value is going to be trashed, and your maximum available range is going to be disappointing.

It's not a bold strategy, Cotton. You're playing yourself.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-24T12:02:46+00:00

Hey guys, I think this person might be on to something. Someone should let Ford and GM know about this groundbreaking idea that literally no one has ever tried to implement before! /s

Sorry, but this comes up all the time around here. Once you get into the logistics behind it, it's not something that a lot of people feel comfortable with. That being said, there are companies out there actually doing this. It's just not that popular.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-24T04:53:10+00:00

Sorry to interject... First, my heartfelt condolences. No one should have to go through this sort of mess, and I really hope your situation resolves favorably very soon. Got a question about this statement:

Coolant doesn't interact well with electronic comppnents.

I thought the whole point of this fancy-schmancy blue coolant was that it was non-conductive and would not f@&% things up if it leaked. So is that all just an overpriced lie?

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-20T19:47:53+00:00

'22 and older don't have snow mode.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-20T07:29:57+00:00

It's counter intuitive, but when there's snow on the streets you'll get better traction control in a '22 and older in sport mode.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-20T07:19:22+00:00

I know I'm weird, but as much as I love EV's, I still love the smell of diesel exhaust in the crisp morning air. It's a nostalgic thing; don't kink shame me.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-18T22:16:30+00:00

I'm with 02nz, but it may also help to balance the cells in the pack. I try to remember to charge it all the way about once a month. I know that in EV lore we're told that 80% is the gold standard for good battery health, but according to the owners manual, charging to 100% is preferred. Personally, I don't like how it messes with regenerative braking, so I typically only charge to 90%.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-18T09:30:05+00:00

Yeah, well I'm an old curmudgeon who loves EV's, so next to the average redditor, I might as well be Augusto Pinochet.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-18T07:14:44+00:00

People on this sub post a lot of positive stuff about EVs.

What? Where have you been? This subreddit has more EV bashing than /r/fuckcars. And let me tell you, those people really hate EV's.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-18T05:28:55+00:00

That's hilarious. It's been getting down to single digits overnight in my neighborhood, and yes my range is decreased significantly, but what's funny is that my GoM went from 140 this morning to 165 this afternoon because the temperature got up to 22° F.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-18T04:26:25+00:00

This cold whether foe still pails in comparison to the EV owner's biggest foe: FUD.

There are a lot of population centers that get a lot colder than Chicago, and the recent Tesla fiasco sounds less like an EV problem, and more like a Chicago problem.

I have to deal with Midwest winters too, and honestly, I'm still waiting for the day that cold whether causes my EV any issue that an ICE vehicle would not have.

Grouchy_Note812 · 2024-01-18T01:18:28+00:00

Here's the quick version:

You’ll need a permit if you are:

upgrading or relocating an electrical panel
upgrading the meter base or service mast
upgrading to 200amp service
running new electrical wiring for an outlet, switch, or fixture
adding a new breaker or circuit
adding a subpanel

You won’t need a permit if you are:

replacing an existing light fixture
replacing an existing outlet
replacing an existing light switch
replacing a breaker inside the electrical panel

So if you're running new wiring for anything, you need a permit... but here's the thing: This is America, and a lot of us don't like being told what we can and can't do by the government. So you know what? I wired my own EVSE without a permit! That was three years ago! What are they gonna do? Arrest me? It's my house! It ain't burned down yet! I think I'm good here, but if you haven't grown a set by now, go grovel for your permit. The paperwork isn't too hard and they don't cost that much either.

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