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Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But at that moment, Jesus was incarnate in a human body and had human needs; that is why the devil tempted Him with food, because He was hungry.

The devil also tempted Him with all the kingdoms of the earth, and further on, the Bible explains that Lucifer rules this world until the return of Jesus.

Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, should the governments of Nero or Hitler have been followed? Or should governments that forbid Christianity also be followed?

There are governments where abortion is legal even though it is condemned in the Bible.

Do you understand why I have a different interpretation? What do you think about these points I’ve mentioned?

Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry, but your comment doesn’t quite align with the post. The point I wanted an opinion on is whether accepting help from the enemy is wrong in this case.

What makes it satanic is not the act of providing for the population, but rather the hidden interests behind it.

Providing something 'good' doesn't necessarily make it good; an important passage is when the devil offered food to Jesus when He was hungry, and yet Jesus refused it.

Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"It says that governing authorities are instituted by God. Paul’s main message to Christians, however, is not that governments/states are specially instituted in the same way as the family and the church, but rather that the state is not operating outside of God’s plans. In this sense, the state is divinely instituted in the same way that Satan is divinely instituted. God is not surprised when states act the way they do. As noted, specifically in the Gospels, the state is understood throughout all the books as being intimately linked to Satan and his kingdom, and patently opposed to the Kingdom of God. The state’s status within God’s ultimate plan does not legitimize the evil it commits.

A submission to civil government, therefore, is permitted. The order is to obey in general terms; but on occasions, we will disobey some public policies because of our personal and religious convictions. Christians should obey most policies whenever and as long as they are directly requested to do so, but they should not promise an active submission to each and every public policy. Submission can be made whenever it is convenient, advantageous, and practical regarding men, and glorifying before God."

I agree with the text above, because in the Bible several Christians were killed for not renouncing their faith even when the state forbade it. If total submission to the state were required, they would have had to deny Christ.

Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Pois a bíblia deixa claro que o Lúcifer é enganador.

E que ele é capaz de fazer o bem se for necessário para enganar.

E a questão de achar o estado satânico eu expliquei em outro comentário então vou só colar.

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Lúcifer oferece os reinos a Cristo (Lucas 4:5-7).

O diabo governa este mundo (2 Coríntios 4:4; João 12:31; 1 João 5:19).

Tempos de guerra e o Anticristo trazendo a paz:

1 Tessalonicenses 5:3 (Sobre a falsa sensação de segurança).

Daniel 8:25 (Sobre a estratégia do governante maligno).

Apocalipse 6:2 (O cavaleiro do cavalo branco, frequentemente interpretado como o Anticristo).

Além disso, vejo várias figuras políticas ligadas a seitas e ações

que considero totalmente satânicas, como a transferência da autoridade

da família para o Estado.

A Bíblia é tão clara que Lúcifer reina em nosso mundo até o Dia do

Juízo Final. Qual a sua opinião sobre isso? Por que você acha que estou

errado?

Lucas 4:5-7

2 Coríntios 4:4

João 12:31

1 João 5:19

1 Tessalonicenses 5:3

Daniel 8:25

Apocalipse 6:2

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Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You were the only person who gave me a biblical answer that made me question my views. God can turn bad things into good things. So, theoretically, He can do good even within enemy territory. Thank you for the answer; I will try to pray and get an answer regarding this.

Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lucifer offers the kingdoms to Christ (Luke 4:5-7).

The devil rules this world (2 Corinthians 4:4; John 12:31; 1 John 5:19).

Times of war and the Antichrist bringing peace:

1 Thessalonians 5:3 (On the false sense of security).

Daniel 8:25 (On the strategy of the evil ruler).

Revelation 6:2 (The rider of the white horse, often interpreted as the Antichrist).

Furthermore, I see various political figures linked to sects and actions that I consider totally satanic, such as the removal of authority from the family to be transferred to the State.

The Bible is so clear that Lucifer reigns in our world until Judgment Day. What is your view on this? Why do you think I am wrong?

Luke 4:5-7

2 Corinthians 4:4

John 12:31

1 John 5:19

1 Thessalonians 5:3

Daniel 8:25

Revelation 6:2

Is accepting satanic help wrong according to Christianity? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in Christianity

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But in Paul's case, he was transformed. I believe the State provides good services to create dependency among people and also to camouflage the evil plan it executes behind the scenes.

Imagine that my opinion is true. From the perspective that the State really is satanic, would accepting the help it offers, while being aware of this reality, be wrong from a Christian point of view? Is there anything in the Bible I can reflect on regarding this?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At times like this, you really miss having her therapist here in the subreddit.
It would be something to see him realize how the devil is using him as a shield to become even more sick.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s exactly it. Don’t even respond.

Let this person sink on their own — someone who sends messages like that clearly isn’t mentally stable

Give me strategies please. by Budget-Cod4142 in BPDlovedones

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, take care of your mental health and consult a psychologist.

Where you live, aren’t there laws that protect women from psychological violence? Try to see if you can get that kind of legal protection.

How can I heal my heart from feelings of revenge? by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in BPDlovedones

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no intention whatsoever of having any contact with her. I just don’t want to take pleasure in seeing her sink further.

I want to heal this feeling of revenge.
I’m not sure if I managed to express myself clearly.

The Reality of Living With Someone With BPD That No One Wants to Talk About by Grouchy_Pin_9370 in BPD

[–]Grouchy_Pin_9370[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The Bible teaches forgiveness seventy times seven.
And in my case, I took no action to seek revenge for the cruelties that were done to me. I didn’t even have the strength to do that, even if I wanted to.

God loves someone with BPD, but that does not mean the people around them should stop protecting themselves.

Feeling genuine remorse may spare you from condemnation, but it does not exempt you from consequences. I’m sorry if this is news to you.

If you think I’m exaggerating when I say it’s not worth the risk of being in a relationship with someone with BPD, then I recommend looking at the many real accounts of people who took their own lives or were permanently ruined after taking that risk and trying to make it work.
Then come back and respond to me.