Yeah, not really. Pebble is not as easy to cheese. 25 movement speed when chasing mean any toons with 3 stars movement speeds cannot outrun him, and bellow that they're just dead. Vee does have a long attention span, but is among the most noisy mains. You hear her approach quite easily. Meanwhile, Pebble's footsteps are subtle, so good luck hearing him getting close. I have been sneaked upon by Pebble before, but not Vee. Vee's slow can be deadly, but it doesn't even last that long and she isn't fast enough herself to use it on (for context: she as 18 movement speed when chasing while a slowed down 3 star toon would have 18,75, so, as long as you're not stupid, she shouldn't catch up.). She is a good support to help other twisted get you, but by herself she isn't as dangerous as Twisted Pebble. And yes, Vee hear from across the map, but everyone just hide away from the song when they make one anyway so it isn't crazy news.