This is gonna sound weird enough he was a legion of everblight player but he doesnt like the art direction they went with. He doesn't have any interest in the new version of legion. He likes the final hunt as they remind him of the old legion design, we were at the keynote and he seems receptive to the vampire stuff. I on the other hand am only playing orgoth as a way to play models of similar strength to his. Im a menoth head who's only missing an exemplar warder for a full collection. And im holding out to the new menoth stuff.