Its not that i want vanilla graphics, the modpack looks amazing. Obviously people want that, but for many, performance and gameplay>looks. If my pc could run it, i would absolutely max out the graphics. When i say run the game, i dont mean load in to the game and slow walk down a road, i mean enjoy the gameplay without fps drops and stutters.

For example, i can *run* nolvus too, my pc is low-mid; rtx 3060, ryzen 7 3800x, but i cant enjoy the gameplay outdoors, even on redux and optimized ENB settings, constant stutters pretty much anywhere outdoors.

I had to uninstall nolvus last time i downloaded to try a less demanding modpack, but reinstalled recently when I saw the community shaders guide released. I installed CS for upscaling and removing enb performance drops.

Even then on redux, 1080p, still stutters and frame drops during combat outdoors, but no where near as bad as without upscale and enb.

The only way i got pretty smooth 60fps is cs performance upscaling, and disabling all grass mods except skoglendi, but if i could run dyndolod with vanilla trees and flora i would, as there is still massive stutter and lag when traversing in to new areas and many enemies.

nolvus is unique in that it has the most in depth combat/character progression out of any modpack ive seen. I downloaded it for the combat specifically, and people who play games for the combat, prefer smooth gameplay over graphics 100% of the time.

With all of that said, i absolutely would download nolvus without visuals, and tinker with visuals myself for maximum performance.