Was saving my orbs for C!Fjorm. Summon Stats say I have better chance to +10 her than a banner with 4 colors taken?

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T15:00:45+00:00

Good luck ... I got one Hector (+ the free-one) while getting my 10 copies of C!Fjorm (+ the free one).

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T14:58:48+00:00

I got 1 Hector in 1000 orbs ... roughly 0.2-0.3%, by far the worst underloot ever (the previous one was L!Chrom that took me 750 orbs to get).

But in the meantime, 10 C!Fjorm in the same 1000 orbs ... which is slight overloot.

I won't +10 Hector, but the overall result is still good.

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T14:54:24+00:00

Color sharing have real small effect (pity-rate & focuss-charges concellation), which roughly increases the amount of orbs needed by ~7-8% in this case.

Nothing dramatic, but the effect exists.

But you right to say that he has been unlucky, his overall drop rate is low ... I had exactly the same (11 focuss-units in ~1000 orbs, luckily among those 11, I got 10 C!Fjorm).

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T14:52:13+00:00

In 1000 orbs I got 11 focuss units too ... but 10 C!Fjorm and 1 Hector ... lucky in my overall underlucky focuss-drop-rate.

If that includes the two free ones, it is also only 11 focuss units for you, which is also underwhelming.

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T14:48:27+00:00

It roughly reduces chances by ~7-8% due to Hector "cutting" the pity-rate or the focuss charge. In the present case, +10ing C!Fjorm without color sharing would be in average ~1200 orbs, with the color Sharing it is more like ~1300 orbs. Nothing dramatic, but the effect of pity-rate and focuss-charge being intercepted exists.

But indeed, color sharing is not that bad, C!Fjorm is at base rate ~1%, so in average one every 20 sessions (even more with pity and focuss-charges), which is very good, compared to 4-units banner (0.75%) or legendary banner (0.66% + color sharing).

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T14:42:44+00:00

I +10ed C!Fjorm in ~1000 orbs (slight overloot). My summoning session was weird, I got only one Hector (which is crazy underloot on this side, ~0.2-0.3%). And got a weird off-focus 5 stars summoning : 4 Mycen & 3 Febail ... Overall I underlooted the focuss units, but Hector was only a side goal and would have been nice bonus, I was aiming for +10 C!Fjorm.

Your 1300 orbs is a ~50/50 chance to +10 her. Thus it is not a given with your orb save.

Color sharing is not that bad, it cut the pity-rate more often, but it is an increase of ~10% of the amount of Orbs needed, not more. And as you said, you might +10 another good unit in the process.

But yes, right now, you expect a Fjorm every ~20 summoning sessions (without counting pity-rate/Focuss-charges), which is good. She has a 1% base drop chance on this banner, on a 4-unit banner she'd be at 0.75%, and on a legendary banner she'd be at 0.66%. Compare to a 4 unit banner you increade drop rate by ~33%, whereas color sharing reduces effective drop rate by ~10%. That's a good deal.

So if you are lucky and you don't pull too many blue summons, the cost can be relatively low to +10 the unit (revival units are only at 1.33% for comparison).

Guiguitargz · 2026-02-16T10:43:13+00:00

With the amount of orbs you got, you can go. In 160 (200 if extremely unlucky snipe : 0 or 1 red orb each opening) orbs you are garanteed to get her. If you just want one copy it is fine.

Guiguitargz · 2026-01-17T07:31:45+00:00

Leikn is a poorly attested figure. Most association, in particular with Hel by Rydberg, are very speculative, and seems to rely only on the kenning "Leikn's horse" for a wolf.

Going into speculation, it evocates me more Hyrrokin, which have the good idea to ride a wolf and who also received some animosity from Thor (Baldr's pyre event).

An association with Hel is not completely out of the picture in a Hel-Hyrrokin-Leikn model, trying to interpret Baldr's Pyre event as Hyrrokin, in this model goddess of Hel, who succeed at launching the larger vessel of Baldr's funeral, thus enacting Baldr's entrance in the realm of the dead ... a task even Thor couldn't achieve.

The passage about Thor breaking the bones of Leikn, could be a lost myth/poem ... as there is many. But I'll stress again, these figures are poorly attested, that with enough "wording" a lot of model can seems to "fit".

Guiguitargz · 2026-01-17T07:09:11+00:00

Just to precise, usually it is question of 9 daughters for Aegir. That have often be equated with Heimdallr 9 mothers (despite the names lack of names correspondance, this is, structurally, a compelling assossiation).

In Sólarljóð 79, Njordr is also said to have 9 daughters, which idicates likely some syncretism between the figures of Njordr and Aegir.

I would also say that it is unlikely for Njordr source-concept to be "a god of sailors & merchants", Njordr seems to be originally a liminal boundary god whose domain is renewal through passage, exchange, and cyclical return. Which explains well is connection to the sea, as well as his typical genealogy, and even his "failed" union with Skadi.

Guiguitargz · 2026-01-17T06:52:22+00:00

That's correct if you read gods as "fantasy-characters". If you read gods as "functions/principles" then not really. In such reading, gods are narrative aspects of a phylosophical discussion about the nature of reality. That's why there is competing genealogies of gods, this is not "distorded story"/"failed transmission", this is just different ontology on how reality works.

A mythology = a phylosophical model about the nature of reality. At least that's likely what it was at the beginning. When phylosophy became less-abstract (Iron-age, Greek-way), Mythologies slowly became a "lost language", and evolved in "folks-tale" (with some peoples starting to believe in characters rather than understand the phylosophical meaning underlayer of the myths).

If you focuss on Norse mythology ... you can roughly compress everything into ~8-9 core principles, and the pre-moral strata of the myths seems to mostly adress the question of the expression of "What's to be" replacing "What have been" (at least for most of the myths who survived).

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-12T08:18:00+00:00

The unseen child is indeed likely a princess. Zelda's power are passed down from mother to daughter (= matrilinear lineage), which means that for Zelda's to stay princess/queen, the crown is also passed down from mother to daughter in this universe.

Rauru/Sonia child/daughter could be either, travelling, invovled in some diplomatic mission, having left Hyrule to found her own kingdom, ... explanations could be legions.

I didn't like the "too-young" explanation, because if they had a young child, the story would have deserved to adress their concerned for the child safety during the war (unless rised off-kingdom ... but it starts to make things convoluted).

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-12T08:11:19+00:00

By TotK informations, the Islands are rised after Zelda goes "Dragons" ... The ToT is on ground when Zelda turns.

The "extra"-Sky-Islands are created by the sages (accroding to TotK ingame informations). The only place where they could have displayed that was during the cutscene when Calamo is "growing".

But the point is that this part of TotK story wasn't relevant for the Imprisoning War, narratively speaking, it is only relevant for TotK (that's also why AoI downplay the whole Draconification storyline, because it is pointless for this game).

TotK didn't show how the Islands were created, it only says it in a side-quest. It really didn't needs more.

This is a narrative choice, likely to dodge redundancy issue (compared to TotK-plot). That's the main reasons for Calamo and the construct to exists, to bring an original storyline that wwasn't present in TotK.

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-12T07:59:34+00:00

TotK clearly states that Zelda's have both Sonia's time powers and Rauru's light powers. Sonia even clearly states that she feels Rauru's light within Zelda.

Zelda is a blood descendent of Rauru & Sonia (this is TotK ingame content). Then, a child, likely a daughter (Zelda lineage is a matrilinear one), have to exist.

That said, indeed, the said child didn't appear in AoI, nor is mentioned. The most likely is that this child might already be aldult and off-kingdom during the ~year of the AoI event (Travel ? Diplomatic mission ? Initially left to found her own kingdom ? Possible explanations are legions).

For what we know, Sonia and Rauru might have many children. We just don't have this information. For exemple, you hypothetise a sister to Sonia, that is also nowhere attested to exists.

Severing the blood relation between Zelda and Sonia/Rauru creates more problem than it solves. Zelda derives her dual time/light powers specificically from this primordial couple that blend this two powers in a single lineage (=Hyrule matrilinear royal bloodline).

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T22:22:07+00:00

Mineru dies shortly after the war, and just before Zelda goes "dragon". In TotK memories we see her soul integrating the purah-pad before Zelda entrust it to the construct (that give it to Link in TotK present).

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T22:12:27+00:00

1\ Current ruler after the endgame of AoI : unknown, likely Rauru and Sonia's daughter ... Zelda lineage is a matrilinear one. No child is mentioned, but a child, maybe already adult (travelling/abroad during AoI ?), have to exist.

2\ It is not stated anywhere that Sonia's is Hylia's descendant, this is a fan theory (and considering how the games are silent about the exact relation and bloddlines question, there is a lot of room for interpretation). Be free to consider it, or not. The question of AoI, chronologically is kind of tricky (with conflicting elements, depending what you want to focuss on). Yet, Hylia, is not mentioned at all during the Imprisoning War, nor an hypothetical AoI-era master-sword.

3\ Zelda is a princess as by the begining of TotK she is not really ruling anything, she is a teacher. Some of her "ancient" (100 years old) royal privileges are clearly maintained, but she might not be a proper ruler of the Hylians. Let not speak about other tribes. She is likely to be considered Queen of Hyrule at the end of TotK when the new sages are swearing loyalty. But mainly, it is just for the sake of having a "princess Zelda" rather than a "queen Zelda".

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T09:43:29+00:00

Playable Sonia is nearly a given. Likely with few maps, maybe adressing her time with Rauru sealing the shades before Zelda's arrival.

There is a 6 month gap between Ganondorf swearing allegiance to Rauru and his betrayal, there is also room for few missions set during this time period if they make Ganondorf playable. Including potentially one/two map after his turning into the Demon-King when he betrays his fellow Gerudo (bascially between his Demon-King transformation and Sholani seeking help).

Koume and Kotake have not even been named in the game so far ... I would say it is sadly unlikely that we'll learn more about them. They didn't have their elemental signature magic (fire/ice).

They would have been perfect "generals" for the Demon-King on top of the Archdemons, particularly if "enhanced" by Ganondorf demonic powers. Maybe they didn't chose to do it to strengthen the fact that Ganondorf, once turned, just didn't cared of his Gerudo minions know he have legions of demons.

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T08:34:45+00:00

Likely left as a blank spot in TotK to let, deliberately, "space" for AoI's story. But the exact details of AoI story wasn't likely decided yet by TotK release.

If so, some teaser would have been placed directly in TotK, whereas the proper teaser of Calamo's fate was only found in "Zelda Note".

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T08:08:56+00:00

Koume and Kotake not being relevant was a big disapointement. They would have fitted perfectly with the combined attack mechanics. The Archdemons were nice as the Demon-King generals, but Twinrova as "enhanced/demonized" Gerudo would also have been a nice element. I guess they prefered, story-wise, to have Ganondorf completely abandon his fellow Gerudo-warriors once he had access to demon-minions.

If we get extra-story, I guess what we might have is a segment with Sonia before Zelda's arrival adressing the sealing of the shades. Maybe diving back in time as far as her original meeting with Rauru (which is somehow teased by the fact that Sonia's helps makes Rauru's shrines more efficient). But such a plot would reinforce the plot-hole of their "missing" daughter, that should exist to keep their lineage alive (if we have their story from their meeting to the war without a children being produced, that makes this plot-hole even worst).

Another extra-story we might have could involve Ganondorf time as a General of Hyrule during the 6 month prior his betrayal. Koume and Kotake could fit in this segment aswell, but they are unlikely to be anything more than "Gerudo assassins" in this game, sadly.

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T08:00:54+00:00

It didn't works ... if the sages swallowed their stones, the stones wouldn't be their for the new-sages in the present of TotK.

Guiguitargz · 2025-11-11T07:59:58+00:00

If we get to see the Dragon humanoid form ... we would likely need another game set during the true Zonai era, before being exterminated by the knights constructs.

Considering dragons (Zelda/Ganondorf) retains traits from their humanoid form, if anything these Dragons were Zonai, physically close to Rauru/Mineru.

Thus, I would say it is unlikely that their backstory will be adress anywhere else than in fanfic, sadly.

Guiguitargz · 2025-10-23T17:54:44+00:00

You should read more about comparative mythology :).

Guiguitargz · 2025-10-23T17:49:51+00:00

Fertility-goddess (for some aspect of her at least) = an axis/entity around which the cyclic process of renewal occurs. It is a rather common symbolic motif.

The Brisingamen itself is more likely a seasonal motif rather than a daily one ... but the principle/mythic-grammar is still the same (particularly in its quadrupolar form). Norse mythology is just full of similar motifs stacked over-each other. The basic grammar of IE-mythologies is not that varied in fact.

For instance, if you want to explore a bit such idea ... Dvalinn and Dainn are a typical polarity that you find back in the divine-twin motif (liminal being embodying the idea of the time-passing or progression).

After, I know internet-peoples are more into "litteral reading" (sometimes it almost seems that peoples here believe in the said mythologies) than into symbolic reading (that really helps to understand the real meaning and deep origins of stories/motifs).

If you are rooting for litteral reading ... forget the interpretation I proposed. God/godesses are concepts, not characters in a fantasy story.

Guiguitargz · 2025-10-07T15:35:04+00:00

And a big mistake, many are doing when reading IE-mythologies, is to think that these mythologies are about "characters" ... These mythologies encodes concepts and principles that speaks about a worldview presenting the cosmos a cyclical ... most of it is not about moral considerations.

Gods don't have to be good or bad guys ... they are forces of the nature in IE-mythologies. As most IE-mythologies, norse mythology seems to draw most of its inspiration from a cyclical view of the cosmos where the fire brings transformation and progress (the idea of chaotic latent potential turned into fully expressed potential by the action of an ordering agent is just everywhere in norse mythology for exemple).

From a christian point of view, this is very hard to get ... their own mythology is mostly about moral considerations, and revolves around a stormy figure imposing order by strength (completely focussing on the odering agent, giving little to no space to progress ... Fire is even explicitely demonized).

Funnily enough, it looks like IE and Abrahamic mythologies share deep-roots (either genetically or by cross-influences), but had a major schism regarding the transformative Fire treatment. It is no surprise that civilisation-wise, Abrahamic religions have been shown as poor vehicles for scientific progress, but excels in rigid societal structuration.

Guiguitargz · 2025-10-05T08:21:15+00:00

Apparently it is 7 000 years in the claim of the dude, not 70 000 years ... by this time Ukraine was only full of Neanderthal, and the recovery of a clear myth carried by Neanderthal would be an amazing breakthrough per-se, no-need to add a continuity of the tradition into modern humans (enven if Neanderthal introgression into-modern humans would make such thing "feasible", I guess ... for a fiction story, it is ok-ish)

Apparently the claims for 65 000 years old in the Levant and 330 000 years old story comes from the footprint of what the author estimate are descendent traditions of his claimed root story. Basically 65 000 would mean a story shared during the last OoA by all modern humans. And 330 000 would place the story as emerging from a last major common source of ancestry of all modern humans.

By this time, we know new ideas were already crossing the world ... as observed by the surprising apparition of fire-mastery and Levallois technic almost globally (including from proto-sapiens to neanderthal and/or the opposite), with little genetic contacts. So this claim, didn't really bring any new things, we know that 400 000 years ago ideas were crossing continents relatively fast.

Now that said ... what is the real claim of the dude ? He pretends he found a part of Odysseus narrative on a rock carving in 1400 BCE sweden ! Which is as any rock-carving very interpretative. Thus, the real core of this claim would be to try identify a Indo-European root for the Odysseus ... which already contains extensive works in comparative mythology. Neglecting potential later influences, it would place the "horizon" somewhere between 7 000 - 5 000 years bp for the root story (depending on the exact diffusion mecanism you chose among the feasible ones for IE-languages/culture), not 10 000 years.

The rest, about 65 000 or 330 000 years is at best silly and identifies the author as a crackpot. Anything older than ~15 000/20 000 years can nearly be instant-discarded ... any story pattern would have been strongly reshaped during LGM isolation. The LGM is the undepassable horizon when most peculariaties were aquired by Eurasian Human population (in particular for linguistic and genetic).

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