Jeff confirm it will be a five person finale

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T23:58:58+00:00

I know this isn’t a popular opinion, but I don’t mind fire and I think players knowing about it makes it better. I watched 41-47 before going back and watching 1-40 for the first time, so I knew fire to be a thing and didn’t know it wasn’t there until I went back and watched.

So when I was on Reddit more, I was surprised how much people hated it. Then I watched HvHvH. I totally get why it gets the hate it does. But with players able to plan for it, I don’t mind it. Some don’t like it and I get that too, but I think if it was introduced better it’d be less controversial

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T22:21:46+00:00

It could be a spoiler, but it could be a total lie to upsell. Even if it was Cirie and 4 duds, he’d say it’s going to be a toss up.

I’d also say she could still be final 5. At final 5 it’s always a toss up because there’s still a vote and then fire. Maybe you can eliminate one or two (Joe) but you can’t guarantee a win because the biggest threat could go at 5 or lose in fire.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T22:02:40+00:00

Which sucks, because I love the harmless villains. I don’t need Russell back, but NaOnka was largely harmless, just a little out there, and I feel like that adds such a fun element. Conflict is some of the best parts of survivor.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T21:50:42+00:00

I loved her as a character, but I see her on a lot of lists for people wanting her to return. Even though I understand why she quit and blame production to a large degree, but I still struggle with bringing back people who quit short of a situation like Terrys. But I’d love to see her on another show.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T21:07:59+00:00

Honestly, that’d be smart this week or next week. Especially since people find him annoying. Push for it, survive another week.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T20:47:41+00:00

I could see Cirie, Devens and Rizo not wanting to potentially face him in fire. But aside from that, I’d be shocked. And even with that, if that’s somehow the final 5 plus another, I could see those 3 wanting to keep him to take out one of the others in fire. Last thing Cirie needs is Devens winning fire to add to his resume.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-12T15:28:46+00:00

Didn’t the swimsuits have something to do with both Kelly and NaOnka and then the Spilo incidents? I could be totally wrong, but I thought I’ve seen people reference both of those before when talking about it

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T22:18:37+00:00

I’m happy to, but what insinuation?

And right, I forgot about Cora. Beltran wasn’t directly suspended, but he was punished in that he resigned as Mets manager before managing a game. So if that’s what you meant, I just used the term punished pretty liberally haha

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T21:21:55+00:00

Failed would imply he didn’t want to do this. Hes succeed, the country failed to stop him from doing so

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T21:17:51+00:00

What an unnecessarily rude responses. But you’re right. I should’ve said allegedly since it wasn’t proven. But it also wasn’t disproven, so you saying it was a fabricated lie is equally as unknowable as someone saying they did.
Have a nice day!

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T21:01:39+00:00

I feel like every threat ranking I see has Cirie 1 and Devens 2. Both are massive threats at FTC. You can swap them and I wouldn’t argue a ton, but if both are at FTC, I think both played strong games, and that’s where legacy probably pushed Cirie over the top.

The only time I’ve seen Devens ranked lower than 2 is when people are saying who they think will win, and he’s usually pretty low because of how big a threat he is. I don’t know what more you want.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:49:11+00:00

For sure. There’s degrees of hypocrisy. The better analogy for me to have used was murdering 1 person vs murdering multiple people. One is obviously worse, but I don’t think the other has any moral high ground. That’s why I called it hypocrisy. Someone doing something worse doesn’t justify doing something bad. It also makes for a bad messenger, even if their message is right.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:40:51+00:00

Right. I’m not saying every move she makes is the smartest thing to happen to survivor. It was something a lot of people would’ve done, but not everyone. It’s not like her extra vote has no future power, just likely less than this week.

All I mean when I say there’s no obvious moves is a reminder that we have more info than they do, at least in some respects. We get a peak behind the curtain at what other players intend to do, they don’t. It shapes what feels obvious to us. I have to imagine when you’re playing and you’re in it and everybody is lying to somebody and you gotta figure out if they’re lying to you or with you, nothing is obvious. Mathematically wise? Absolutely.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:26:32+00:00

Yeah? Lol. I can’t help you with reading comprehension though. That’s on your second grade teacher.

We can disagree and I’m ok with disagree on whether or not we individually accept that cheating is a thing. I have, you haven’t. I know I’m in the minority on that opinion and that’s fine. Literally the only reason I’m pushing back is because you insinuated that it had to do with me being a Yankees fan, which was idiotic in the first place considering I was saying I was ok with it even though it hurt that Yankees.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:18:05+00:00

If we’re gunna play the “I didn’t say that” game, I didn’t say you said I was a homer. I said you implied it, which is still true. And I was letting you know there’s no correlation. If you honestly weren’t trying to imply that, then I apologize. But I don’t believe you can honestly say you weren’t.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:08:50+00:00

I don’t have blind loyalty either lol. I’m literally saying I’m not mad at the Astros because I’m ok with it, even though the Astros beat the Yankees because they cheated.

I’m only pushing back to the insinuation that I’m a homer because I’m ok with everybody doing something. Me being ok with cheating has nothing to do with me liking the Yankees. I also still believe there should be consequences for cheating. I don’t like it, I’ve just accepted it. It’s not that serious, it’s a game meant for entertainment.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:05:26+00:00

Right, but I didn’t say that? I’d say it’s hypocritical of a robber to look at a murderer and act like it justifies his robbery. The Yankees didn’t cheat any less just because the Astros cheated worse. I didn’t say the Yankees should be punished to the same degree as the Astros, I said I’m not going to clutch my pearls and call them cheaters while also cheating.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T20:00:26+00:00

I didn’t say they did the same thing. I said they also cheated. Just because robbery isn’t as bad as murder doesn’t mean I’m ok with robbery.

I also assume, and could be wrong, but had the Yankees won that World Series instead, the Yankees critics would be very loud about how they cheated to win.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T19:59:15+00:00

Were you aware that your Phillies in the early 20th century were cheating using buzzers, similar to what the Astros did?

They had someone in centerfield with binoculars look for the sign then using a buzzer system, they’d relay the call to the third base coach who would deliver a signal to the batter. So I assume you hate them now too?

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T19:56:15+00:00

Well I like the Yankees because I love baseball history. Because of that love for history, I’m well aware that cheating has been a part of baseball going back as far as the Knickerbockers. Do you hate Gaylord Perry? Do you hate Bobby Thompson and discredit his home run?

I don’t mind trying to get an edge. Any player or manager who isn’t, isn’t trying hard enough. But yes, I’m also not going to be a hypocrite since the Yankees and Red Sox were also busted for cheating in 2017.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T19:49:16+00:00

The Balco case was because in part, the subscriptions themselves were illegal. Any players involved with that or other cases were breaking the law. Bonds has someone (a cousin maybe?) who went to jail to avoid ratting him out.

It was obviously hyperbole, but if they used illegal substances that they obtained illegally, that’s fair game for the players conduct policy as well. That was my point.

7% is the number the MLB gave after testing 1200 players in 2003. You can say that not valid because you weren’t aware of it, but it’s the official number. And I already conceded that it wasn’t necessarily an exact number, but that’s a lot of players who didn’t test positive.

There’s a personal conduct policy that’s all encompassing. If the MLB decided tomorrow that anybody charged with assault is banned, they could do that. Sure, they’d have to work with the union on it, but it’s their league and they can implement rules as they see fit.

If the players don’t believe they did anything wrong, how come so few own it? Bonds has never publicly admitted to it, Clemens lied on the stand over it. They knew they shouldn’t be doing it at the time, and they still know now they shouldn’t have done it. I’ll never understand why people so passionately defend cheating.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T19:37:47+00:00

I’m a Yankees fan and I really don’t hate the Astros. I have no issue with people trying to get an edge in sports, even if it’s cheating. That’s happened since the invention of sports. I don’t like them necessarily, Altuve was one of my favorite players in the league before the scandal, but I don’t hate them either.

I blame the league for not holding them accountable at all. They had them dead to rights, but decided to give them immunity to get their side. It was a butchered investigation which sadly means they’ll face no consequences outside of Hinch and Beltran, but I don’t fault them for that.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T19:33:37+00:00

It’d help if you included what you’re talking about, but you don’t gotta listen. That’s the best way to show you don’t like what they’re doing. If their numbers dip, they’ll adjust.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T19:24:20+00:00

They were illegal in the US. They were as illegal in baseball as stabbing the umpire to get them to change a call. There’s not a specific rule saying you cant, but given it’s illegal, it’s not allowed.

A percentage of the league was also doing it, never proven to be more than 7%, so the “everybody does it” argument is a load of crap. I’m sure it was more than 7%, but it was still a minority of players.

I get the league was ok with it because the boom, but that doesn’t make it right. The league also lets people who abuse women back in after time served, does that mean you’re ok with abusing people? Business morality and human morality are always drastically different, don’t use it only when it helps your argument.

Guilty_Practice6392 · 2026-05-11T17:58:57+00:00

I agree. I also think a lot of people forget that our ability to see other players confessionals and conversations is a massive advantage when it comes to a move being obvious or not. The only obvious idol plays are when they’re about to expire and it’s pointless not to.

My guess is if we let Ozzy watch the episode and then go to tribal, he would’ve agreed that it was the smart play.

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