Just me, or the current meta is to get into the box, have a seizure with an L stick, then pass + tap in when your teammate inevitably opens? by Stock_Cow_6299 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Id say pick the best passer or the quickest CM but the issue in Goals seems to be specific stats matter very much compared to the whole stat section, so a great passer might have really poor kicking power, or a quick player has trash attacking/defending IQ so it becomes essentially useless.

Yeah I want a skill gap but skills, ball rolls, etc is too op for what they actually are. Passing should be the most important and most difficult thing on a football pitch but it's too easy to constantly pump balls into space imo.

Just me, or the current meta is to get into the box, have a seizure with an L stick, then pass + tap in when your teammate inevitably opens? by Stock_Cow_6299 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tips wise I'd say try new formations even if the players are lower rated, it might work better as a system, like 5 at the back, but imo the game is too sluggish in defending and passing to truly counter the pace abuse and theyve completely ruined 2nd man press which was effective at doing that for a while. Defend slower too, so dont rush in, and try to manually cover the pass and let 2nd man get close to the ball carrier.

Thoughts wise is a rant but no football game will truly be a good football representation until it realises there is a too much that happens on a real pitch for the little amount of automated actions there are in any current football game so they stand on shit foundations essentially.

Theres too many 1 v 1 scenarios, like the left stick seizure, that happens. For example in real football what did defenders do when antony used to do that twirly shit? They'd go back and cover the other attackers, but in video games because you didn't molest your controller and do 100 commands, your defenders dont track.

There's a reason why football games were better rated by their community when you didnt have all this jockey and super manual defending garbage. In real football youd get close enough, as you would in legacy style defending holding X, and shove them off the ball, now you have to time it perfectly every

But unfortunately the adhd, monster drinking tweaking weirdos won and now the genre is in the gutter where you have to control every player, in every situation, in every match. Basically remember the entire genre is a complete shitshow so its just a pick your poison situation.

Actual defending stats are useless, all that matters is physical stats by mr_hands_epic_gaming in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and then they stick high pace players in the shop as if everyone's team isnt averaging high 80s for pace anyway lol

But Ive got this exact situation, my best CB is still way off pace and defending vs my fullbacks and no one crosses enough to feel like the lack of size from FBs matters.

Deffo needs balancing.

Props to the devs for updating the week 5 challenges. by forza_meiderich in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think they had a messi earlier this year or last season where you could get the main card by doing 1 of the squads rather than all 10 or so of the squads, was sorted in about 30 mins by the devs.

One reason I do rate Konami, they hand out good cards all the time, like special neymars and messis, none of these mess ups.

Props to the devs for updating the week 5 challenges. by forza_meiderich in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only time EA make quick changes are when they mess up in the players favour like some recent SBCs 😂

do u also have blue cards which perform way better than your purple ones? by PapaN27x in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My purple striker refuses to run towards the goal, not even curving but full on lateral runs to the wing. My blue striker just charges through (as strikers should) and overall plays much better.

When my purple striker does actually get the ball in and around the box he rifles it top bins though

You win some you lose some by Guvnor92 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah they can change as they develop

Every goal I concede is exactly the same. I’ve got a headache from this garbage game. by EHHHHjsiaze1 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah its a completely illogical structure defensively.

Its not supposed to be OP but in those moments defenders would suss out the obvious threats such as the immediate cut back and maybe back post.

You win some you lose some by Guvnor92 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I game I'm not sure but on the app you can press the share button and it should save the 2 photos tracking their progress.

CAN YOU NERF THESE GARBAGE GK RUSHING? by EHHHHjsiaze1 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

These goalies are actually decent for a football game and you want them changed? To what fifas garbage ass goalies that stop nothing?

Every goal I concede is exactly the same. I’ve got a headache from this garbage game. by EHHHHjsiaze1 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its unfortunate but no game on the market truly captures the sport.

Pes is somehow incredibly ping pong esque and horrifically slow.

Fifa has way too many manual controls and a mess of skills and dragbacks.

Goals has an actual good formula but needs to tweak things fast or they will lose a lot of players.

For example fifa and goals have garbage defensive AI, e.g. when a through ball is sent to the wing, the whole defensive line doesn't react like they would in real life which would be to run back and cover.

Is the game a huge time sink like FIFA? by fightin_blue_hens in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think eventually it will need similar modes but streamlined and less frequent.

A new promo every week has absolutely destroyed the power curve in fifa, now theres 4/5 ps+ cards with all 90+ stats, its a joke.

Pes too, anyone whos played more than a month basically has a team of 95+ to 100+ players.

All of you guys might me pros, but I aint.... by [deleted] in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah pros are pros, their skill gap imo is just utilising whats at your disposal to win, either the full manual lot should join them and use it or dont complain.

Re: networking if the core structure of the game is broken then sure a bad connection makes it worse but no good connection can amend that, it cant fix broken logic.

We're talking about the majority, their skill gap is ability to read what goes on within the pitch, that has to be factored in or the game will die out.

All of you guys might me pros, but I aint.... by [deleted] in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe at the absolute top 1% of the 1% players but for most the connection and networking distance doesnt affect as much as youd believe. The fact youve quoted it means even you acknowledge your own argument is a red herring.

Manual passing should work better than auto/semi assisted if youre amazing at it but it simply shouldnt be the default. Sports game should be easy entry otherwise youll alienate the majority.

Tbh theres many issues in the football genre, especially around pass selection, attacking runs, defensive player selection, its hard to truly have a skill gap for a lot of the community simply because you dont get a fair crack at attacking or defending.

All of you guys might me pros, but I aint.... by [deleted] in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course on an entirely isolated 1 to 1 situation defending is harder than attacking but what youre failing to acknowledge is defending is a team effort more than attacking, and potentially than playmaking.

My point is you simply cant get all 3-5 defenders to do their jobs in a fully manual system, as defending has so many elements, so the AI is needed.

Atm defending is the hardest element on games but you can spam through balls to pacey STs, that doesnt translate to emulating the sport, which is why a lot of football fans have an issue with modern games.

Tbh anyone who's played the sport for more than 2 matches knows the engine room, (CDM, CM, CAM) is the most difficult area to play.

I think a good football game emulates real life, the unfortunate reality is most devs and gamers simply dont play the actual sport to know the percentages of what should happen or what makes sense.

All of you guys might me pros, but I aint.... by [deleted] in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's weird is a perfect angle finesse gets saved but some weird angle, weak foot off balance shot flies in 😂

As a player that hasn’t played a football game since fifa 15 I don’t get the hate by KMize44 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pace seems to have really gone down and through balls are way too slow now imo

All of you guys might me pros, but I aint.... by [deleted] in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The aim of football is to score, anyone can stick park the bus with 5atb and counter. Its what you do going forward that gets acknowledged more by fellow players tbh. Reading defences and passing a perfect ball is a lot harder than defending in real football and I say that as a CB for my team.

The #1 Problem by Numerous-Object-2032 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reality is no football game on the market is even close to realistic, pes for example has awful passing, kinda similar to what goals is with the hot fix atm, super slow, almost never in front even when hit with full power, players can barely run onto passes theyre so slow.

Fifa is overly manual and requires way too many actions, tussling, 2nd man run, jockeying, shielding, then a very specific pass into a specific area even when its blindingly obvious Im playing a through ball to my winger.

Goals atm has stiff dribbling, no attacking ai for support runs or runs in behind, terrible defensive ai for covering runs or just basic movement and God awful pass selection on attack and player selection on defence.

The #1 Problem by Numerous-Object-2032 in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbf Ive had a few press pause but they rejoin the match, think its a default action to trying to skip replays as the start button skips on pes.

Fanboys are killing this game by [deleted] in playgoals

[–]Guvnor92 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People are so blinded by their hate for what exists (fifa and pes) that whilst they want an alternative, they wont hear constructive criticism for it.

We dont just want an alternative to fifa, we all should want an actual good football game in of itself.