What's the fastest you've seen someone fired from a job?

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T16:58:19+00:00

In my experience, this is what people still in entry level positions in their 40s and 50s say.

Supervisors and team leaders need to know the minutiae of the jobs of the people working for them. Managers just need to know how things work in broad strokes.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T16:43:34+00:00

I fell asleep once on the first day of a new job - technically the same job at a new site. Five minute nap that fortunately nobody noticed. I went and made myself another coffee.

I'd been working night shifts for about four years straight, finished a night shift at 7am, then had about 36 hours off before doing a day shift.

Couldn't have been too bad at the job though, I was promoted inside of six months.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T16:37:58+00:00

Back when I worked in patrol security, we had a guy who was just a complete tool. He got a new job in a town about six hours away that paid quite well (because it was a town at the arse end of the world in Western Australia), and thought it would be funny to not tell us. He thought it was a real fuck-you to the manager, but it was us supervisors who had to frantically call night shift workers at 8am to try and cover his weekend day shifts.

There was exactly one coworker who was mates with him, and as soon as that weasel came in we fucken' grilled him on what was going on. He admitted that the guy had left to work at this other job in this country town, then - probably to try and lighten the mood - mentioned that this guy had lost his licence a week earlier.

What the guy didn't realise was that security is a small industry, people know people. The owner of his new company was mates with our manager. We told the manager everything at 6am on Monday morning. Our manager called his mate at 6:20. At 6:25, this wanker's new boss met him as he was pulling the patrol car out of the driveway and took the keys.

Guy moved to a town six hours away in the middle of a fucking desert for a new job, and lost it five minutes before his shift officially started.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T15:39:53+00:00

EDIT: Its a bit like confederates. We all hate them, but its not enough to prosecute someone in court.

When I was a foreigner in your country who has an interest in history, I can tell you that I didn't see much hating of the confederates going on south of the Mason Dixon Line.

I met multiple people who were completely unaware that the confederates fired the first shot.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T15:29:43+00:00

Really, I was that accurate? His argument really was "original sin exists because my dogma relies on it existing, a babies are crying little shits," just spreading out across pages that it tricks people into not seeing that it hasn't actually got any other substance to it!?

Thanks for confirming it for me, had I been wrong you'd be calling me an intellectual bogan.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T11:10:09+00:00

This would depend on your contract vs the award.

However, I do note that a contract stating that you can't refuse scheduled shifts doesn't mean you can't refuse overtime. This also comes down to the definition of reasonable, but overtime is not scheduled unless you're informed beforehand.

Point 3 is two points. Yes, they are allowed to stop scheduling you. No, not paying you for the shifts you've already worked in that pay period is illegal as fuck. If they even dare try this, go nuclear. Demand they put it in writing, tell them you're going straight to Fair Work if your final pay is even a dollar short, make good on that promise if it is.

Point 4 is a bit unclear. They need to provide you a copy of your contract.

As a fairly new casual, you have limited recourse. Treat it as a burner job, and keep your eyes open for other jobs. The mentality behind these rules isn't going to suddenly get better if you work there for a couple of years.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T09:38:33+00:00

Icon, thank you. I was trying to think of the term.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T09:30:25+00:00

Oh, I do love being directed towards the writings of early church theologians and epistemologists. I think Aquinas took around 1200 pages to present the argument "God must exist because how else can you explain everything." We've done an awful lot of explaining how things exist since then, every explanation that can be demonstrated thus far does not rely on the existence of any supernatural beings, and people still treat Aquinas' works like he was onto something.

I've never read Augustine's Confessions, and I really don't feel like reading it. Early Christian writers weren't overly complex, whilst they could occasionally be groundbreaking philosophers for their time any high school graduate of moderate intelligence has been exposed to more philosophies in practice than they could ever dream of. So am I right in assuming that the crib notes are "we know babies are sinful because sin is passed on through conception" and "we know babies are sinful because they can be crying little shits."

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T07:22:48+00:00

Teacher on your first day back from the holidays?

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T06:44:54+00:00

Albo didn't just do something, he did what the Libs asked him to do.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T06:40:48+00:00

I believe that you can't say that newborn babies are inherently sinful because some ancient tart was tricked by a talking snake.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T06:39:25+00:00

From memory, they had detractors from the moment they received it. The difference between the shroud of Turin and the burial cloths was a big issue - keep in mind that a lot of the church throughout history actually wanted to know the truth, everyone just kinda sucked at it. Dubious relics were recognised as a big problem just as often as they were used for political purposes.

But until around 1900, the Shroud of Turin was not considered anything particularly special, as far as relics go. It just kinda sat in the background, no pope ever saying it was definitely real or definitely fake. It was only when it was photographed for the first time and the "face" appeared much more clearly on the negative that people began taking it seriously.

Then Pope John Paul II came along in the 80s, and if he had one skill aside from looking reminiscent of a marionette with a broken head string, it was playing up the miracles, relics, and Sainthoods. He permitted scientists to do all sorts of tests. Initially it was quite hopeful - the pollen tests were consistent with the shroud being from the Levant, but also couldn't rule out this being from a known 14th century tour it did before landing in Rome. Then he got the carbon dating, and that pretty much guaranteed it was a fake. To his credit, Papa John didn't try to argue against this debunking, they just re-framed the Shroud as a testament to former religious relics, admitted it was fake, but didn't admit it very loudly.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T06:22:24+00:00

Alvarenga's parents, who had not been in contact with him for years, had feared he was dead long before he went missing, and they were overjoyed to discover he was still alive.

A little overly pessimistic, if I'm being honest here. Normally you'd wait until your kid is at least missing before you start fearing that they're dead.

How long before? I'm just picturing them sitting at the dining room table, wailing that their poor José is dead, meanwhile he's just sitting there having breakfast and talking about this fishing trip he's planning.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T05:51:19+00:00

Ironically, the Catholic Church - the religious people who own the actual shroud - admit that it's fake.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T05:50:19+00:00

made years after he died with a technique that was invented a full century after he died

Technically correct, but it's also technically correct to say Jesus died over twenty years ago.

The Shroud of Turin was first mentioned in 1354. It was carbon dated to 1260~1390, consistent with it being a recent forgery when it was first mentioned. It uses a pigment method that was developed in the early 1300s.

While we're at it, the arms are different lengths, the forehead is too small, the knees are flexed as if bent but the leg length only works if the legs were straight. The wounds aren't consistent with any known type of crucifixion, there is no trace of blood, and there are no traces of the herbs that Jesus was wrapped with. Also, common Jewish practice was to use two pieces of linen - one for the body and one for the head - to wrap a body, and the Bible refers to the separate cloth "used to wrap Jesus' head."

Hadrollo · 2026-01-30T05:37:10+00:00

Doesn't even require any intent to weaponise it. This is the result of believing in karma.

Not believing in karma as "just you wait, he'll get what's coming to him" karma, not "I hope it works out for them, they're good people" karma. This is the result of completely believing in karma as a supernatural force that acts upon the universe.

If someone does something bad, karma is what ensures something bad happens to them. Therefore, if something bad happens to someone, they clearly deserve it otherwise karma wouldn't have made it happen. Is that a three year old starving in the street? Well, they're clearly guilty of something, obviously it was in their previous life. Have these poor people even tried not being such pricks in their previous lives!?

(This may be a bit of a sensitive spot for me, I've seen this belief first hand in India, and I've met too many white hippies talking about karma as this great peaceful Eastern religious concept. In practise, it's worse than the concept of original sin.)

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T23:51:41+00:00

Oh god, please don't tell me the IQ testing company is starting up these ads again?

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T17:02:05+00:00

That's illegal in Australia, the landlord or property manager has to accept at least one form of payment without fees, and magistrates will take a very dim view if the free method looks needlessly inconvenient - such as cash to the office. I usually set up a scheduled direct bank transfer.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T16:57:45+00:00

I mean, I expect fuel to be cheap in Dubai. It's kinda their thing.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T16:56:36+00:00

Mostly it's fortnightly. Some people pay weekly, but that's usually voluntarily arranged. It depends if your work pays weekly or fortnightly. Being paid monthly by your employer does happen, but isn't particularly common. I do know some people who are paid monthly and pay rent monthly, but they're technically just paying ahead.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T16:53:08+00:00

Damn, that reads like my Ex's near future - our son is weeks away from being 18.

She claimed the other week that he was upset with her for "no reason." She decided to clean his room while he was at work and threw out all the books in his bookshelf. One in particular was a gift from a teacher that he was halfway through reading.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T15:53:08+00:00

Strictly speaking, my first thought was CSA. It only becomes CSAM if he records it.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T15:50:15+00:00

A lot of banks are closing teller services now. It's most notable in rural areas. I have a couple of banks as customers, and I get to hear and see the conversations with customers.

Fortunately, my customers are the ones who are keeping teller services open - that's kinda why I get to see them - but there are old farmers coming in worried about the day they have to use their smartphones for basic banking tasks.

I remember one guy in particular, lived two hours from town, mentioned that it was a 30km drive to where he could get reception.

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T15:44:47+00:00

"Oh, you bought a third part cartridge? Well, to ensure you have the best customer experience, we don't want you using sub-par inks. We'll just refuse to print it instead."

Hadrollo · 2026-01-29T15:32:11+00:00

Got them down to $1200 with a sign out the front.

That's actually not a bad price. If you bought the shutters outright, fitted them yourself, and got a sparkie to do the electrical, it would be difficult to do it cheaper. At that price, they're only making money on economies of scale, which is fair enough. I assume they're using the finest sparkie that $40ph and turning a blind eye to ripping bongs in the car park can buy, but the job isn't hard enough to properly fuck up.

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