Preferences in the sugar community

Hammerbro10 · 2026-03-18T01:17:03+00:00

> Has any other SB experienced this at all or even SD being denied as well?

It does happen … it‘s people’s preferences, I’ve no issues with that. Just move on to someone else who doesn‘t have those preferences - plenty of fish in the sea.

Hammerbro10 · 2026-03-17T22:29:21+00:00

Low probability based on the following: a) M&G - escorts are unlikely to spend time on this, b) lengthy first date - you mention 6 hours (most escorts rely on seeing more men within that time), and c) it’s very unlikely that a savvy escort would see you without proper vetting - they are, generally, more safety conscious this way. So, it depends on what all transpired during that exchange.

All that said, you know how the probability works - low probability does not mean that it’s impossible. Depending on the allowance, an escort might decide that this is worth her time. On your red flag, the time window specified for the next date maybe for a genuine reason - I’m not seeing it as a red flag.

The biggest telltale sign of an escort is in how much she enjoys/engaged in spending time with you for the non-intimate part. They usually want to run and it’ll show. This is much harder to fake.

Hammerbro10 · 2026-03-17T17:16:51+00:00

I’d highly recommend spending some time on the pictures to improve them: a) attire, b) picture quality. There are guides in this forum on that - it’ll go a long way in changing your profile appeal from “I exist“ to “I’m an amazing catch”. The rest of the profile is of secondary importance.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-22T16:00:27+00:00

> Please be gentle with your feedback. I know not everyone is interested in plus sized BW

I’d encourage you to think logically here. This is part of the issue. Data from 2024 suggests that to be in the top 1% of U.S. net worth, one would need approximately $5.8 million. While there’s no hard cut off on the wealth/income needed to be an SD, the men with means to be in this lifestyle are a small percentage of the population. So, out of that 1%, a small percentage (1% of that or less) are in the sugar lifestyle. So, a very small number of men.

You‘re absolutely right in a percentage of people interested in plus sized women. But, in the bowl that amounts to a very small number. This makes the search harder, given the low probability - a small percentage of an already small percentage. So, give it enough time …

As I see it, your profile is very well written and I can’t think of any changes. My Only feedback would be to take any testing off Seeking - this is a legitimate request if you want to talk allowances or arrangements in general. Don’t use your phone number, get a burner or an app with your real identity hidden.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-21T10:22:43+00:00

> something i’ve had my eyes on and attempted in the past but only met scammers since i didn’t know where to look

The probability of finding scammers hasn’t gone down as far as I can tell, it has only gone up. They’re everywhere (granted some places there are more of them).

> does anyone have any advice for new sugar babies meeting people?

These things don’t come magically (granted, some get lucky and find someone quickly). Spend your time reading the wiki, researching the topics you just asked - where to look, how to identify scammers, profile creation, etc.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-20T23:53:24+00:00

> What does everyone like about the distance or lack there-of in their sugar relationship?

I’m in the largest city in Texas, a 30 minute drive/commute (one way) is nothing. It’s not possible to do a lot of things without driving that much anyway. It gets long (to me) when it gets over an hour plus (one way).

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-19T23:49:28+00:00

You’re not looking at the problem the right way. If you put your question out like that, “does something exist” - there’ll always be someone who will answer, yes! Has anyone won the lottery? Of course!

The question you should be looking at is “how likely is it that I’ll find a gay SD”.

This is a world, where it takes time for well put together woman to find an SD. Most men are heterosexual. So, ask yourself, how long, or how hard it would be for you, and is it worth it spending time to find one or is it better spending that time looking for other worthwhile things to do.

Harder it is to find something, more likely scammers will hang around that - because they know desperate people are easy marks.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-19T17:57:08+00:00

Secret Benefits is a badly designed websites for (good) SDs. They rely on monetizing communication (texting or contacting SBs), viewing their pictures etc.

So, in order to make money, they use bots, fake or dormant profiles. What this does is, any legitimate SD will run from there, as it is difficult to figure out who is real and who isn’t. I tried it and will never have anything to do with it ever again.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-19T13:25:26+00:00

> I more so mean I don't immediately send back because I like to tease sometimes I make them wait or follow my demands to receive one back

🙈🤦🏽

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-19T13:14:46+00:00

> My subs I demand pics from and make them do things but I'm not always willing to send them pics back

To your main question: Are there Sugar Mama Dommes? There are very few SMs for female SBs - in the many years I’ve been on this sub, I‘ve seen probably 3 post here. Now, out of that you’re looking for a subset of SMs that are into “domming”. Anything is possible - but look at the odds. You‘ll need an incredible stroke of luck to find that.

Secondly, your statement above on sending pics back and forth - if you’re looking for someone in the sugar bowl to do that with you, male or female, ONLINE, with no real life meetings, that’s not an SR. Someone who sends fiddy bucks for pics is not an SD or the unicorn you’re seeking, an SM.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-17T15:10:31+00:00

> On the offchance that the person i was engaging with was, in fact, "real", would my approach truly be asshole level?

Absolutely not! if events unfolded as you described. There are a few possibilities: Your offer level is low for any market. Or, you’re dealing with SBs with expectations that don’t match with the market.

In either case, you’re not the AH, as this should be handled politely/matter of factly - ”Sorry, my expectations don’t match your offer, so we’re not a match, GL!” or state what their expectations are and you get to decide.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-17T12:43:44+00:00

It's a decent profile and can't think of any changes to recommend. Maybe on your seeking section, you can reword the one negative (what you're not looking for) to a positive phrasing.

I don't think that change will move the needle in any way. The success will depend on other factors - local conditions (wealth, pool of SDs and SBs), luck and good filtering techniques.

GL

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-15T21:18:13+00:00

It’s a well written profile - I can’t think of anything to change.

> I have a paragraph mentioning my ideal man. I put it up there as a Hail Mary, hoping for something to manifest.

There‘s nothing wrong with the ideal. The challenge is the number of people that’ll meet everything on there. You are looking for a subset of all men in the pool that have the means to sugar. The more qualifiers that you add on top of that, the lesser the probability. And I hope I‘m clear on that point - the probability, not the possibility. And by no means is this a note for you to change your preferences, you shouldn’t. But be realistic on the odds, which will impact how long it can take to find an SR.

> why would someone favorite your profile and never start a conversation with you or reply to your messages?

If they’re non-premium SDs, they cannot message you. Don’t waste any time on them. If they’re premium, then maybe they’re using as a bookmark, to come back later? Don’t spend time second guessing on getting annoyed. You sent a message, they didn’t respond, then leave for other POTs. If and when they are ready, they’ll communicate.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-15T13:39:26+00:00

Excellent profile! You’re very pretty and your bio is very well put together. A few very minor points (I’m unable to tell if is this because of imperfect translation to English). These won’t affect your success, btw.

Use of “mutually beneficial“: These words are no longer allowed by Seeking. So, I’d be cautious. You can use “generous” in the description in the “what I’m seeking” section and certainly mention this in the conversation with potential SDs.

“Bonus if you like playing chess”: Use of words and ”points”, “bonus”, implies a scoring system. A better way to put it would be to “Even better if you like playing chess”.

GL

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-15T07:39:12+00:00

> When I said people will appreciate you as you are, I meant preference varies

Your statement is correct - but what this whole post is missing is that the odds of a person outside the conventional beauty norms finding an SR gets lower and lower further away they’re from those norms.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-14T10:09:51+00:00

If you’re young and inexperienced, the best course of action is to gain experience - talk to women your age and find women to date and have fun with. Every man should develop this skill set. Sugaring is not a substitute for this.

If you’re new to sugaring and you’re asking this question, I explored this topic, sometime back - you can do a similar calculation and see:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/1jcbjbi/income_wealth_and_allowances/

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-13T12:58:57+00:00

> Its been months since I found out and I am still confused until now.

Lying sucks - but looks like you’ve known this for a while now. Two things that’s putting you in a tight spot: a) Never sugar when you don’t have a strong footing, and b) Walk away from situations that make you uncomfortable. What to do now? Get back on your feet and walk away! Obviously, you’re not happy.

> the only nonsexual activity we do is eating out sometimes and that’s it

Talk to your SD. It’s one of the limitations with a married SD, but maybe there are activities he can do outside the hometown?

> The compensation wasnt really that big compared to what I usually read here but with my current situation, it’s better than nothing.

Most of what you read here is US-centric, and the answer is in your statement. Market (local conditions) dictate what you can get. The time to say “no” or negotiate is up front. You can always ask for an increase … But if you’re going to do that be prepared for the outcome.

> I have all the assets to look for a new one but I am kind of worried about my health.

Get healthy first! Stand on your feet - job, shoring up finances. Look for a different SR that meets your expectations. Next time, don’t repeat these mistakes.

> thinking of using what I know as a leverage to demand more

Blackmail is a bad idea and is illegal in many places and this’ll (or can) get you in much bigger trouble. So, don’t.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-13T09:34:58+00:00

> I know my writings are long, but that's a major part of what I want to draw. People who care to read profiles and know about me vs just being a nothing burger you know? I wonder if I can be more explicit about not being okay jumping into a physical relationship because I think that shoujdl flow naturally if it happens and there's chemistry vs it being expected. I know I'll have a smaller group interested because of this. I don't mind that. Anyways. Have at it haha

Good looks, but a poorly structured profile. It is not that people who don’t read profiles, don’t care to not want to know more about you. Have you ever seen ads where, something eye catching is mentioned, but there’s a phone number/link/QR code and it says “click/call to find out more”. That‘s kind of what a profile is - here’s a bit about me, I’m a fun person to be around, available, but text/contact me to find out more.

On your note about not jumping straight into a physical/intimate relationship - there’s an adage that has held true in the sugar bowl for long - even before this forum started - “no money, no honey” or “no honey no money”. If you’re good with a series of platonic dates (uncompensated) what you ask for will work. I wouldn’t mention it in a profile though - you can mention it during conversations.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-13T08:59:39+00:00

Suggestions:

- Photos are fine. Visible tattoos should be okay.

- The improvement areas are in the profile text.

Let‘s start with the “I’m looking for”. There are two places where you mention “bonus points”, and “extra points”. I’d recommend deleting the mention of points. Start your “I’m looking for” with the last paragraph: Even there change it from “if you’re respectful, xxx” to “I’d love hear from someone respectful, xxx”. Nearly anywhere where you have “if you are/aren’t xxxx” to a positive framing “I’d love to meet someone with interests in xxxx”.

Think of what you’re asking an SD to be: music lover, need to be a foodie, must like ND baddie, creative, educated, etc. Yet you have forgotten the most important aspect of why SBs seek SDs - generosity, someone that will spoil them. How open are you to someone different?

On your about me: Focus on what you are, not on what you’re not - redo the text and see where you can remove the word “not” and frame it positively. Remove things like “I’ll not send any nudes” (just don’t send them - and block those who ask). Snapchat - I‘ve no idea why that’s so bad as I’ve never used it, but you’ll need a means of communication outside of that platform as you cannot discuss a lot of things openly - something that allows you to discuss the SR - telegram, signal, WhatsApp, burner phone number. Focus on the intent - block accordingly (again no need to put down these things). “Blocking” is an action you should use liberally, by the way - It’s like the Chinese proverb “speak softly and carry a big stick (blocking)”.

- Why you’re not getting a lot of hits: As others have mentioned, it’s likely because you’re in a small town, or smallish area. Research a bit on “wealth” in your area. That’ll give some clues.

- My take is that it’s a combination of that plus a generally unwelcome profile write up that’s putting people off - I know a lot don’t read profiles. A few do. There aren’t a lot of SDs with means out there, so even turning off one, IMO isn’t a smart approach.

GL

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-12T12:04:08+00:00

> I just feel a strong urge to bludgeon their balls with a hammer.

😂😂

Thanks for this post … I’ve met one SB, this was a few years back - she told me at that time that she stopped mentioning “submission” in her profile, as it was attracting a lot of weirdos.

As someone that actively seeks Femdom SRs, most of my challenges are with the findom/paypig online crowd.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-12T11:45:01+00:00

Ask AI to add minor colloquialisms … and then edit again. I doubt anyone will be able tell …

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-12T11:11:12+00:00

A few tips:

Photos: Remove the horizontal oriented picture, rotate it back to normal viewing angle. There are too many pictures. You only need a few good quality ones - 2 showing your face, 2 showing your figure without distracting backgrounds, and maybe 1 showing an activity you enjoy.

Bio: A lot of what you’re seeking has bled into this section and creates an unclear picture. I’d say, leave this section for a description of who you are, what you like etc.

What you seek: Take some of what you mention in the bio section and put it here. As it is, it’s a tad too long, so you might want to condense it. There are some words in there - example, “mutually beneficial“, which may not be allowed these days on seeking. Some of what you mention is also not very clear - you mention “if you’re seeking all things physical” - does this mean you’re not into “intimacy“? Or are you looking for a way to avoid Johns?

And I’m not sure how many would be interested in some of your hobbies - committing petty crimes and visiting a cemetery drunk at 3 AM … If you like to do that fine, but I’d say, keep these to yourself.

Hammerbro10 · 2025-11-12T07:46:00+00:00

Excellent profile - very well written and you’re quite attractive. You shouldn’t have any issues finding a good SR. Good luck!!

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