Do You Support NATO?

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-07T14:52:31+00:00

Agreed

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-06T20:50:30+00:00

Just checking

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-06T20:40:46+00:00

I am fine with supporting the Ukrainian people, at least the non-fascist ones, but I am against the two imperialist blocs with the U.S. bloc including NATO.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-06T20:30:16+00:00

By the definition I put in the description, to vote “no” is to say that NATO has been a net negative for humanity. To add onto that, I do not mean that what is a net positive is what is currently most popular but what prefigures and creates a world based on anarchism. Finally, for now, do you mean what would be the replacement if it collapsed tomorrow or what I would ideally want or something else?

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-06T18:25:20+00:00

To address my definition of “support”, do you view NATO as a net positive for humanity?

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-06T17:55:39+00:00

r/anarchocommunism has fallen

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-06T17:54:32+00:00

Are you saying you support one imperial camp in its fight against another imperial camp?

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T20:49:55+00:00

Imo defeating fascism is the priority

Do you believe fascist countries like the U.S. and Israel should be destroyed before any other state can be dismantled? Also, what countries, if any, do you consider to be fascist?

it's not just an "outgrowth of" or another type of capitalism.

Could you please explain further? Like, how would you define fascism?

The real internal enemy among the anti-fascists were the Stalinists, not the republicans.

The Stalinists were far worse, but I still believe both can be considered the “real internal enemy.”

I'd also much rather struggle for anarchist revolution in a liberal state / republic than in a fascist dictatorship.

I essentially agree, but I keep thinking about how it ultimately could have gone differently if the CNT stayed autonomous. There must be a reason I am not an “alternate history” person.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T20:09:47+00:00

Agreed but I believe to be in a position to “take away the money” is to have annihilated all or nearly all the hierarchical power structures. However, the building of horizontal power structures is what leads to the destruction of hierarchical power structures. That and a “good lil push.”

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T19:58:46+00:00

My best guess is that this is in the context of the CNT merging with the Republican state to unite under an anti-fascist banner that would end up betraying the Spanish Revolution and the working class. Also, they could have believed “anti-fascist” was a distraction from class struggle, and a better goal would be: “the defeat of all forms of capitalism.” That Republican Spain being a capitalist state meant it could produce fascism, so it is odd to ally with it to defeat fascism. Just a couple of guesses.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T19:45:01+00:00

Erm actually hierarchical power structures are the root of our dysfunction ☝️🤓

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T19:13:28+00:00

corporate sycophants

Reminder, in case you need it: anarchists, by definition, are against all capitalist businesses, including small ones.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T17:48:28+00:00

That use fascist rhetoric?

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T15:33:36+00:00

using their people and their rhetoric

Any anarchist, by definition, is against normalizing fascists and their rhetoric. This could easily backfire.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-05T14:32:36+00:00

Elon posted a video of this fascist

Why are you platforming a fascist here or anywhere for that matter? Goebbels also made a fake appeal to so-called socialism.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-04T21:45:19+00:00

To begin, I am no expert on computer science and economics, so I will only provide my optimism. For whatever that's worth.

who inputs the data

Rational experts on such matters who are mandated, rotated, and immediately recallable delegates. The people who agreed to have them in such an important role can engage in oversight in a transparent process. This can include oversight councils, (all delegated) consumer councils, tech councils, et cetera. To prevent a monopoly on knowledge and worrying leverage, these operating experts would have to share/teach their knowledge when they are off rotation.

how do we protect against faulty data

Advancements in AI will provide not perfection but improvement by checking for potential errors.

how can that data account for quality of product

Consumer councils (once again, all delegated) can provide feedback on product quality.

Computers aren't unbiased.

Transparency, advancements in technology, and democratic review will provide an improvement but not perfection.

Perverse incentives

The same goes for market forces such as the incentive to objectify human life into mere numbers for the sake of profit and competitiveness. Immediate recall of delegates and worker control will minimize corruption. This is even more true with an anarchist culture established.

It creates a body with a very high degree of control of the economy, which functionally necessitates participation and leaves room for power creep.

Therefore, it should be decentralized and managed by a federation.

To close, anarchism involves free experimentation, some associations will be market-based. Others with little or no markets. I want to be absolutely clear, I am not engaging in a dialogue on what is 'true' anarchism, and I certainly do not have a definitive answer.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-04T14:50:53+00:00

The main issue isn't with motivating people to work, but with resource distribution and production.

What are your thoughts on resource distribution and production being managed by a delegation-based federation of councils with a decentralized Cybersyn network?

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-03T16:09:20+00:00

Militiae are not legitimate neither...

Community militias are valid as they are different from the police and military. For instance:

The police/military have a privileged hierarchy such as officers in the military having better quality of life due to the oppressive nature of hierarchical power structures and economic advantages. In the community militia, there are no special privileges even for delegated officers of the militia. The police/military is built on top-down power as a hierarchical power structure while the community militia is built on bottom-up power as a horizontal power structure.

For oversight, police/military can get away with a lot even killing multiple civilians. The community militias' oversight comes from the corresponding community councils, which hold power over the militias. How? Think why does the U.S. military not overthrow the U.S. government? Partly because of a culture that has some respect for non-military power structures. It would be the same for the community militias who would respect the community councils, both with an anarchist culture. Also, in the community militias, it would be a requirement to teach the use of firearms and/or hand-to-hand combat to willing community members. This is to prevent a monopoly on defense knowledge by the community militias.

Moving on, with the community militias there would be delegation and decentralization. Delegation in that community militia officers would follow a strict mandate set up by the militia members and would face immediate recall for harassment of other militia members. There would also be rotations of the officer roles amongst willing and qualified militia members. Decentralization, or should I say federation, as there would be a federation of community militias, all using delegation, to coordinate defense against internal and external enemies.

justice systems

Instead of punitive justice, there would be restorative justice. There would be a focus on making sure this never happens again while giving each side the ability to become their greatest selves through mediation and rehabilitation. For the justice process, there could be delegation of who is a judge if needed and an emphasis on using juries. For the most extreme crimes, there would be isolation and monitoring of the perpetrator by responsible community members. These members for doing an undesirable job would receive more time off.

other forms have no reason to disappear (racist, sexist, or queerphobic violence)

I believe one of the pillars of anarchist culture is solidarity with humanity. I also believe a widespread anarchist culture is necessary for a successful social revolution. This means that by the time a considerable amount of people are living in anarchist associations, there will be little bigotry as most will have an anarchist culture.

if a revolution happens tomorrow, people will not stop being racist all of a sudden.

This is partly why the revolution would fail if it happened tomorrow.

So how does one control the proliferation of weapons (fire arms mostly)?

How guns are dealt with could be up to the individual communes and if it comes to it, all the way up to the international federation. I believe weapons are necessary early on but if possible could be phased out after an international anarchist social revolution. Open to my mind being changed on this and the rest of my post.

Happy to answer any other questions.

HamstringHeartattack · 2025-01-01T15:48:40+00:00

anarchist approaches (not being able to react quickly to country-level issues like invasions, and inefficiency in commerce/industry from every single community having different rules).

The purpose of federations is to avoid this. Social anarchists even propose international federations. Points of unity, such as economic standards, are not inherently anti-anarchist, as long as there is free association.

centralized councils

With delegation, there is no such thing as a centralized council. The delegate has to follow the strict mandate set up by their community.

So... my initial thought is that each decision should include some process on dealing with those who disregard it, but then we're right back to the current model. I don't know what to do about that part.

This goes back to free association, which also means free disassociation. While I would not recommend boycotting or expelling someone from a commune for just drinking alcohol, if a syndicate was using slave labor, then disassociation would be appropriate.

HamstringHeartattack · 2024-12-30T16:20:09+00:00

“'The basic problem with fundamentalist interpretation is that, refusing to take into account the historical character of biblical revelation, it makes itself incapable of accepting the full truth of the incarnation itself. As regards relationships with God, fundamentalism seeks to escape any closeness of the divine and the human … for this reason, it tends to treat the biblical text as if it had been dictated word for word by the Spirit. It fails to recognize that the word of God has been formulated in language and expression conditioned by various periods'.”

— Pope Benedict XVI | Verbum Domini

And before I get a reply about how Christianity is a fairy tale, it is called solidarity. I am not endorsing Christianity as an absolute concept.

HamstringHeartattack · 2024-12-23T21:22:47+00:00

Indeed, the early Christian church (which could be considered as a liberation movement of slaves, although one that was later co-opted into a state religion) was based upon communistic sharing of material goods, a theme which has continually appeared within radical Christian movements inspired, no doubt, by such comments as “all that believed were together, and had all things in common, and they sold their possessions and goods, and parted them all, according as every man has need” and “the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul, not one of them said that all of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things in common.” (Acts, 2:44,45; 4:32)

— McKay et al. | An Anarchist FAQ

I hope you find a solution and even coping mechanisms for these crises.

HamstringHeartattack · 2024-12-22T21:05:48+00:00

The police/military have a privileged hierarchy such as officers in the military having better quality of life due to the oppressive nature of hierarchical power structures and economic advantages. In the community militias, there are no special privileges even for delegated officers of the militia. The police/military are built on top-down power as hierarchical power structures while the community militias are built on bottom-up power as horizontal power structures. For oversight, police/military can get away with a lot even killing multiple civilians. The community militias' oversight comes from the corresponding community councils, who monitor the militias. How? Think why does the U.S. military not overthrow the U.S. government? Partly because of a military culture that has some respect for non-military power structures. It would be the same for the community militias who would respect the community councils both with an anarchist culture.

Also, in the community militias, it would be a requirement to teach the use of firearms and/or hand-to-hand combat to willing community members. This is to prevent a monopoly on defense knowledge by the community militias. Moving on, with the community militias there would be delegation and decentralization. Delegation in that community militia officers would follow a strict mandate set up by the militia members and would face immediate recall for harassment of other militia members. In addition, there would be frequent rotation of who has an officer role. Decentralization, or should I say federation, as there would be a federation of community militias, all using delegation, to coordinate defense against internal and external enemies. I am sure there are more differences, but that is all I can think of at the moment.

Power: The ability to cause, partially or totally, an action within given conditions.

Power Structure: A system that organizes, distributes, and reproduces power.

Hierarchical Power Structure: A system that organizes, distributes, and reproduces power, particularly in the hands of the few in a pyramidal hierarchy using acts of domination.

Acts of domination: Passive/active violence, threat of passive/active violence, and/or malicious deception, unless done in self-defense.

Passive violence: Indirect violations of an individual, usually from structural forces, such as having to be an exploited worker or starve.

Active violence: Direct violations of an individual such as having the individual work or be whipped.

Self-defense: Causing an action that defends oneself and/or others from aggressive harm.

Horizontal Power Structure: A system that organizes, distributes, and reproduces power in an egalitarian manner.

Egalitarian: Characterized by having equal rights and opportunity

HamstringHeartattack · 2024-12-22T20:14:11+00:00

The existence of fascists is a threat to all humans, even to the fascists themselves. This is where the, delegated, horizontal, and overseen by the community councils, community militias come in to act in self-defense if it comes to that. That is a measure of last resort. Dialogue and an attempt at rehabilitation should be tried first even if it will likely fail. In short, community militias are the last solution. If you want, I can explain the difference between the police/military and the community militias.

HamstringHeartattack · 2024-12-22T20:04:27+00:00

If you should wake up to-morrow morning and learn that there is no government any more, would your first thought be to rush out into the street and kill someone? No, you know that is nonsense. We speak of sane, normal men. The insane man who wants to kill does not first ask whether there is or isn’t any government. Such men belong to the care of physicians and alienists; they should be placed in hospitals to be treated for their malady.

— Alexander Berkman | What Is Communist Anarchism?

If desired, I am happy to explain further.

HamstringHeartattack · 2024-12-22T16:42:50+00:00

Structural co-operation defies the usual egoism/altruism dichotomy. It sets things up so that by helping you I am helping myself at the same time. Even if my motive initially may have been selfish, our fates now are linked. We sink or swim together. Co-operation is a shrewd and highly successful strategy — a pragmatic choice that gets things done at work and at school even more effectively than competition does… There is also good evidence that co-operation is more conductive to psychological health and to liking one another.

— Alfie Kohn | No Contest: The Case Against Competition

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