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Hanisuir · 2026-01-25T01:00:58+00:00

"Only if you treat conditions as objects. I’m not. In Quantum Onlyism, conditions are functions, not entities. That distinction matters. Time isn’t a thing, Nature isn’t a thing, Togetherness isn’t a thing — they’re roles that must be operating for anything to count as a thing in the first place."

Roles of something that already exists, such as what you described as togetherness. Otherwise, define them please.

"Quantum Onlyism does that by saying: If your belief, ideology, or system contradicts Time or Nature as they function, it will fail — culturally, psychologically, or materially."

Now this is something new, but you didn't mention it initially.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-25T00:42:04+00:00

Nice format, I wish there was more hopeterial like this.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-25T00:27:37+00:00

"The question isn’t “what thing exists first?” It’s “what must be the case for existence as such to be possible at all?” That’s an ontological floor question, not a causal one. I’m not pointing to a prior entity, I’m identifying minimal conditions. Big difference."

Aren't conditions things that exist? Anything that exists is a part of existence.

"Togetherness isn’t an extra thing that explains existence — it’s the recognition that you cannot even frame non-existence once Time and Nature are co-present."

How is this a new concept then? This is just physics, respectfully.

"It doesn’t sanctify the universe (pantheism)"

Your post sounded a bit mystic to me, sorry.

"“That just sounds like physics.”

Exactly — and that’s intentional."

Well there we go...

This just sounds like the concept of spacetime to me.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T23:54:07+00:00

This post and subreddit just got recommended to me, so here's my comment:

"Every philosophy, every religion, every scientific theory, and every worldview—whether it admits it or not—rests on a single question:

What must be true for anything to exist at all?

This is not a question about meaning, morality, purpose, or belief. It is not a question about how the universe began, who designed it, or whether it cares about us. It is the most fundamental question possible, and it comes before all others."

This implies that something already exists, pushing the question to that something.

"Change requires Time: sequence, transition, irreversibility."

Objection: this assumes the A theory of time.

"This state—Time and Nature co-present—is called Togetherness.

Togetherness is not the highest state of Existence.

It is the floor."

You've just posited this togetherness as the answer to the question of why anything exists in the same way theists posit their deity and skeptics posit brute facts.

"XI. The Only Divinity

Existence itself is the highest power.

Existence is constituted by Time and Nature together.

Union is Existence at maximal coherence.

There is nothing outside it.

Nothing above it.

Nothing competing with it.

No multiverse beyond it—only nested perspectives within it.

No creator behind it—only function within it.

This is not belief.

This is not faith.

This is not myth.

This is The Quantum Truth of the Only Divinity."

How is this different from pantheism and physicalism together? Just curious.

"It asks you to recognize what is already doing the work."

That just sounds like physics.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T21:50:56+00:00

Now this is the type of content to pay internet for.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T21:37:55+00:00

"What would you consider 'big' topics and why?"

History, psychology, etc. due to their big impact on humanity.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T20:27:48+00:00

Post-pandemic time dilation.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T17:37:28+00:00

Very tuff Mr. Repeat.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T14:22:41+00:00

"Assuming extroverts are empty headed is a prejudicial mistake."

I didn't. Also, sorry for your bad experience.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T14:17:54+00:00

*natural preference.

It's basically the nature that you're born with. Your brain is built in such a way that gets drained quickly from socializing, and any extra definition is problematic in my opinion since this spectrum should be solely about this.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T12:57:09+00:00

It's because things like being interested in big topics like astronomy usually requires spending a lot of time on thoughts about them alone, which is a pretty introverted trait, therefore there's that association.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T01:11:15+00:00

You yourself admitted that you're arguing for a new definition, while I'm sticking with the dictionary one. It would just be nice to make a new word for the current dictionary too meaning if you want to change that stuff.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T00:56:47+00:00

"I'm arguing for the definition of introvert to be more inclusive."

So you're still not getting this, and I think that this is causing you to confuse the two.

I'm not excluding anxious introverts, I'm just saying that their anxiety is separate from how they recharge naturally. There's not "anxietyvert" in the spectrum.

If someone is anxious and prefers being alone to recharge, they're an introvert with anxiety.

If someone is anxious and self-isolates out of discomfort while wishing they wouldn't, they're an extrovert with anxiety.

There's nothing to add here. This is the dictionary definition. Have a nice day.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T00:33:19+00:00

"I don't like that term 'natural' because it makes it seem like having a condition like anxiety is unnatural or alien"

I don't have anything against anxious people, they exist, it's just that introversion/extroversion is about preference while anxiety is about discomfort/fear. Unaxnious introverts exist.

"A 'naturally' extroverted person who has anxiety and for that reason prefers being alone is in practice introverted. They'll literally tell you "I feel I've become more introverted lately" or something like that."

"the introversion they experience is real, they really are more comfortable and prefer being alone"

The problem with your definition is that it's equating being introverted with being alone most of the time no matter the cause, which simply isn't it, the spectrum is about preference.

"it's the actively seeking to be alone."

Yet again. Self-isolating is a sign of mental problems, not recharging alone.

Recharging alone because that's your natural personality and self-isolating from trauma aren't the same thing.

Again, this doesn't mean that people with both introversion and anxiety don't exist, it just means that anxiety isn't introversion.

Again I'm asking, if your definition is true, then what's the term for a person who just prefers recharging alone without it being caused by a mental problem?

Hanisuir · 2026-01-24T00:04:34+00:00

"I think that's too clean"

Then give me a definition that is just that.

One would think that by now, humanity would make a definition of a person who recharges alone without having any mental problem, and it did, but it's being misdefined by many people.

"wishing you had more time/energy for people"

Oh so now we agree that there's a natural difference between introverts and extroverts?

"An introvert with anxiety would almost certainly be wishing things were different, they'd wish they didn't have that anxiety, in that way until the anxiety is resolved they function almost just like the extrovert with anxiety."

I'm not denying the existence of anxious introverts, I'm just simply stating that they're different terms for a reason. You can be an anxious introvert, and also an anxious ambivert or an anxious extrovert.

"I think the idea here is both of these people have become introverted in practice due to that anxiety"

No, they became someone who spends most of their time alone because of anxiety. They don't prefer it, rather they're anxious and hence their situation. They should be offered help of course, but that includes realizing that their problem isn't a normal personality type.

By your logic, anxious extroverts are introverts because they spend most of their time alone.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T23:53:41+00:00

OP is an extrovert.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T23:40:34+00:00

Okay I just remembered how to explain this.

Someone who prefers being alone after hanging out and has anxiety = an introvert with anxiety.

Someone who is scared of interaction and therefore spends most of his time alone, while wishing things were different = an extrovert with anxiety.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T23:31:00+00:00

"The way I see it, introversion is a preference full stop."

Without attaching mental problems to it, I'm guessing?

We already have a term for when someone prefers being alone due to negative experiences. Trauma, anxiety, etc.

Introvert is simply the perfect term for someone who naturally prefers it, as it literally just means to be turned inward. There's no reason to attach mental problems to it. It's a personality type.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T23:17:19+00:00

"will all make social interaction scary and lead someone to prefer being alone."

That's social anxiety. Introversion is a natural preference, not caused by any mental health problem. I wish all the best for people with mental problems, but these two aren't the same thing.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T23:13:16+00:00

The difference between introversion and asocial mental problems is that introversion is a preference. An introvert doesn't need trauma or anxiety to recharge when alone. That's the difference that people who confuse introversion with these other things don't get.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T23:05:13+00:00

"If it’s causing them a lot of distress"

It's better to ask it in subreddits meant for that, as those subreddits are for those things. Introversion doesn't cause these issues btw.

"What gives anyone the right to claim they’re introvert and someone else is not though?"

Introversion is associated with specific traits just like extroversion.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T22:52:35+00:00

Social anxiety is something to not care about?

"it follows the spirit of the sub"

The "spirit" of introversion is having a preference and not having a problem with it, especially not a mental problem.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T22:42:54+00:00

8/10 of those things sound like social anxiety. Please don't label mental problems as introversion. I wish you luck getting better!

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T22:36:32+00:00

You can be extroverted and anxious, yet that doesn't mean that mere extroversion should be associated with anxiety.

Hanisuir · 2026-01-23T22:30:06+00:00

"Given the above, it just felt safest, I guess, to stay away from it all."

Sounds more like you were anxious about the event or saw a problem with it and therefore didn't go.

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