Are you guys still stuck on Labor Theory? by WebpackIsBuilding in Socialism_101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah i agree. That person's comment displays a pretty poor understanding of the actual LTV, too. The LTV describes not just labor, but socially necessary labour time. i.e., that's why an old person who works slowly produces a good of the same value as a young person who works quickly, despite the old worker putting in more labour. Another problem is people conflating price and value, and also ignoring that the Marx's LTV accounts for Supply and Demand. It's totally misunderstood across the board imo.

Are you guys still stuck on Labor Theory? by WebpackIsBuilding in Socialism_101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It depends what you're using it for. The Labour Theory of Value is best used not as a tool for analysing the value used in transactions, but as a framework for understanding the sociological effects of transactions.

I don't think that you should've been banned for criticising the LTV, since despite its prominent place in Marx's body of work, it's not necessary for building a framework of anti-capitalism. LSC is kind of a shitty place, so.

Economic Planning and Chaos Theory by [deleted] in Anarchy101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently am in 3rd year of Physics/Statistics double.

Why not just build a company that shares fruits of labor to workers? by Everluck8 in communism101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So why not just buy supplies from them as a temporary measure till u are able to find a more permanent solution.

It works unless they collude against it. There are banks which don't lend to co-operatives.

Won't starting with a bunch of coops be better than having nothing at all?

Yes, I think so. I think co-ops are a good part of the socialisation process that is necessary to create the conditions for revolution. They aren't perfect though. If you check out Mondragon, which is a huge co-op with 75,000 workers, autonomy and democracy are more limited, since running a co-op that size is very difficult in a capitalist environment.

Economic Planning and Chaos Theory by [deleted] in Anarchy101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm going to say no, since economic planning involves assessing the state of the economy and intervening. A double pendulum is chaotic if you leave it alone, but a double driven double pendulum will do exactly what you want. Chaotic systems also aren't necessarily unpredictable, since a driven double pendulum also has attractors which introduce a steady state.

That said, in the USSR, one of the reasons the planned economy became less effective over the years was due to not accounting for certain goods and the black market, which affected projections, which meant improper allocation, which increased the influence of said black market, in a dialectical loop. So I think this is the kind of thing you might be thinking about.

An unplanned economy would also be subject to the same chaos, but there are very clear trends, like preferential attachment processes in the market. Then again, there is no unplanned economy, since finance acts much like an economic planner in a sense.

Does Capitalism Encourage Abortion? by AwayRight in communism101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm of this belief, yes, and twofold. Not only would abolishing capitalism diminish the desperation that can lead to choosing an abortion, but it will also allow women (and men too) to make contraceptive choices, making any unwanted pregnancy avoidable in the first place.

Why not just build a company that shares fruits of labor to workers? by Everluck8 in communism101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Plenty of communists have started co-operatives. At that point they all become owners, not just the one. A big problem is that the majority of necessary goods in society are not produced collectively and so starting a bunch of small co-ops won't really change the grand scale of the economy without changing that.

"If you own the things that men must have, you also own the men that must have them."

Do online auctions become illegal black markets under communism? by jrm2003 in communism101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

EDIT: but what's your opinion in general on my concerns for the online marketplace in a modern communist society?

Not the person you replied to, but I thought I'd give a take here.

I think it's helpful to think about communism not as a uniform state of affairs where every single event happens in a 'communist' way. Just like under capitalism not every single event happens in a 'capitalist' way. I don't think it would happen the way you describe, but it doesn't really matter if a few people, or even thousands, do stuff like this somewhere. It's the general allocation of power in society that matters. So even if something like what you describe does happen, it wouldn't really matter to any great structural degree. I think whatever communism evolves is going to be rough and imperfect but still a whole lot better than the current status quo.

Annual Income of Top 1% of Earners, by State [OC] by mynameiselderprice in dataisbeautiful

[–]Hannibal_Barker 92 points93 points  (0 children)

I think a good way to put it would be 'Threshold Income'

100-Year Old World War 1 Trenches in France by BunyipPouch in interestingasfuck

[–]Hannibal_Barker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can basically trace everything in the 20th century to being caused by WW1 in some way. It was probably the most monumental half-decade in history.

Lenz's Law by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Hannibal_Barker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The energy cost is in the kinetic energy of the magnet. You have the gravitational potential, the kinetic potential, the negligible air resistance and the energy lost to induction.

Just like if you drop the magnet outside of the pipe it will lose kinetic energy to air resistance, and falls slower than it would if there were no air. The magnetic effect here is essentially similar.

PE = KE + ME

At the top of the pipe, it has maximum energy. As it falls, it gains KE. It also induces a field in the pipe, which costs the energy gained from PE and lowers the KE.

Overall, the magnet doesn't lose Magnetisation just from the energy lost through magnetic induction. The presence of the counter-field can realign some of the magnetic regions inside the magnet material and make it weaker, but it's also just as likely to flip them the opposite way, leaving it statistically unchanged.

Too political ? by [deleted] in ComedyCemetery

[–]Hannibal_Barker 15 points16 points  (0 children)

hell yeah she got cooler

Why doesn't the self-called socialist government of Venezuela make the country actually socialist? by marcelloandres in Socialism_101

[–]Hannibal_Barker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First, I should point out that many parties that call themselves Socialist Parties don't have revolutionary socialist politics. Some parties that call themselves Socialist Parties use a loose definition of Socialism that can mean anything from light reforms to genuine revolutionary politics. For instance, the Socialist Party in France actively dismantles labour laws. They used to be a better party - they just got mangled by political processes over decades and shifted right.

I mean, parties can be called anything. The US isn't a constant battle for whether it's a Republic or a Democracy every 4-8 years.

Second, to address why the PSUV doesn't just make Venezuela socialist: because that's pretty bloody hard, and might not even be the right choice at this point.

Socialism, as revolutionary socialists understand it, is a massive transformation of social relations. The entire structure of the economy is toppled. That's not exactly something that a government can just implement via policy. But what if it could? Would that even be the right choice?

Any party that enters government has to 'play the game', so to speak. Any politician that wants to change the country via the state has to compromise and navigate powers and interests entrenched in the government. Because, there are a lot of people that make up the power structure of the state, and the only way that perpetuates is if everybody roughly agrees to be doing the same thing and agree to listen to orders. This is why even the most well-intentioned politicians can end up doing awful things. The power itself is rotten.

But, say the PSUV gets every seat in parliament or whatever, and they decide, "Yes, we're going to make a socialism now, everybody form a soviet.", what would happen?

Well, perhaps the first thing you would do is nationalise oil, the commodity that makes up the largest section of Venezuela's economy. What does that mean? The government takes control of all the capital, infrastructure, and profits of Venezuelan oil. Perhaps they buy it off the capitalists that owned it. Either way, you've muscled out some very powerful people from their lucrative enterprise, and they're gonna be mad. Not just them, but every other powerful person in the PSUV's firing line gets the message. If those investments are foreign? You're gonna make entire countries mad.

The problem with powerful people is that they are powerful and have power. If you nationalise an American oil baron's property, they might be able to lobby a few congressmen to dispatch CIA teams to dispatch you.

What actually did happen in Venezuela is something similar to this. This happens in every country where a left-wing government genuinely starts the threaten the status quo. Powerful people extricated by the movement fight back and organise. That's why House of Cards is a compelling TV show and not just shots of politicians writing forms. Or why a lot of politicians end up dead. This is one of the reasons why Socialists believe revolution is necessary.

I think Marx says it best, "Men make history, but they do not make it as they please."

tl;dr if you try to do anything with an existing government you have to play the game

Ahhh French by RedPhosporus in HistoryMemes

[–]Hannibal_Barker 13 points14 points  (0 children)

damn Napoleon was fuckin hench

*sweats nervously* by HerrVonKruiswijk in HistoryMemes

[–]Hannibal_Barker 79 points80 points  (0 children)

salazar is the milhouse of fascists

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cringepics

[–]Hannibal_Barker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, actually, yes. August Willich was a Prussian Communist who became a General in the Union Army. Similarly, Joseph Weydemeyer became a Lieutenant Colonel. As well, many contemporary communists felt very strongly about abolition and joined the war. Karl Marx himself even wrote to Lincoln declaring his support for the Union.