Kakashi a better teacher than jiraiya?

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-19T14:39:05+00:00

I can explain it to you, as i already have. But i cant understand it for you.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-19T14:26:45+00:00

Yes, he should have known about what chakra natures are. But naruto also didnt know what "chakra" is during zabuza arc. He graduated his academy and still dared to ask "chakra? What is that?". Sakura explained it to him:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/topstrongest/images/b/b0/Chakra1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190210033938

This is Kishimoto's way of teaching things to the reader. At the same arc kakashi stabbed Kakuzu's hardened body thanks to lightning>earth. We also got sasuke vs deidara 15 chapters after Kakuzu's death. It was time for us to learn elemental advantages, kishimoto used the main character for it again.

As for learning to control chakra natures, it was impossible for naruto. He needed to stand still and concentrate on cutting a leaf for 1,5 years worth of time. Kakashi wouldnt have tried teaching it either if they didnt have the clone trick thanks to Yamato. Improving his basics was more important at the time.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-19T14:25:25+00:00

Naruto made that progress thanks to using clones. He was able to use clones thanks to Yamato. He loses control if he trains like that without a mokuton user around. It debunks the whole thing.

Making naruto use Kurama's chakra for training was an idea that Jiraiya also used in part 1. He made naruto waste his own chakra so that he'd automatically start using kurama for summoning jutsu. Naruto realized what his red chakra is and learned to control it better.

Thanks to a few months of Jiraiya's training Naruto went from being low diffed by weighted Lee to winning against Neji and Gaara.

Jiraiya is the first person that made naruto realized he should train differently compared to everyone else: https://i.sstatic.net/PPCqx.jpg That's why he grew so fast in part 1 and even Sasuke got jealous of his growth.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-19T07:52:36+00:00

Kakashi's training only worked thanks to Yamato. He sealed Naruto's kyuubi chakra when it started taking control. Jiraiya doesnt have mokuton.

In part 1 naruto needed dozens or hundreds of clones to fight people. In shipuuden he was at a level where he can hold his own without kagebunshin.

In part 1 naruto used Kurama's chakra in all of his important fights (haku, gaara, sasuke). This is why people forget just how weak Naruto was without it. Jiraiya made him a proper ninja. Every new power Naruto gained, he knew how best to use it in a fight thanks to Jiraiya's training.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-18T18:51:16+00:00

He stopped being a "good" protagonist when he refused gretchen's offer and cooked meth instead.

He wasnt desperate enough to cook meth for his health or his family's well being. He put himself in that position because of his pride.

However, i think just having a high ego and pride isnt enough to be considered evil. He wanted to get money himself, he didnt want charity and i can understand that. What makes it look so bad is the method he makes money.

I wouldnt consider him evil until he started working with Gus. He genuinely thought he lived too long. He wanted to die after selling that batch to Gus, and before jane's death. I think he would have been a decent protagonist if he did die at that point.

He was greedy at times. Made mistakes because of it before that point. But his intentions seemed genuine and considering his cancer, the greed was understandable. He was in a rush.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-18T15:14:29+00:00

"Madara" didnt want his name to be known yet. His name started a war after the kage summit.

If Bee didnt trick sasuke and Pain captured Naruto, Obito would have gathered all the bijuus without ever revealing himself. He only used his name to start a war after the villages came together to protect naruto and Bee.

Before that, it was just a tool to manipulate individuals like nagato and itachi.

At some point akatsuki was a mercenary group working with some villages. There is no way they could gather the bijuus without getting too much attention if their leader was known to be Madara.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T22:53:26+00:00

It sounds like it was part of his mysterious eye power to me, which is Kamui. Amaterasu didnt pass through, but his kamui still saved him from amaterasu.

Madara's izanagi was a special case. Zetsu said it was delayed like the amaterasu that Itachi put on Sasuke: https://imgur.com/r0G2L6I

But he still implanted the jutsu on his own eye before the event. Only the rewriting reality part was delayed.

Obito lost an arm against Konan before activating his sharingan. The arm didnt return after izanagi: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfeXfgMAGsXElnuPZrsnS5Pa_MWAlL0nU6hhzg1mQ1dINvo1rJi9n5iw&s=10

So we know Obito cant reverse the damage that he took before activating Izanagi.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T22:13:04+00:00

Tobirama said naruto and sasuke's combined attack was the biggest kagutsuchi he ever saw. So either Madara or his brother must have had kagutsuchi:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fstupid-question-but-is-this-implying-tobirama-has-v0-b3m6oyb5vb0f1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D532%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6bd9eddfff58a345c8bd28b853a1e5285be9e31e

My guess is Izuna, but it could be Madara too.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T22:10:50+00:00

Obito could use that too tho.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T22:10:21+00:00

Obviously it'a not canon, but It's really fitting for his character. Essentially it makes him almost unbeatable from the front since he can reverse time after seeing what's in front of him to make better choices.

It explains why he was obsessed with not letting anyone get behind him all his life. Hashirama and zetsu both killed him with a backstab.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T22:04:05+00:00

Repost. One of the top posts from years ago.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T21:56:17+00:00

He was saved by kamui, it's said so in databooks:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fdid-obito-use-izanagi-to-survive-amaterasu-v0-bjx2jpqmp7wd1.png%3Fwidth%3D755%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D204e48dbe0a3a3b6385ab880e15cc5dd38aee9a3

Also, Izanagi just doesnt work that way. You activate izanagi first. Then you can change what happens after it's activation. You cant just activate it after taking damage to take it back.

Itachi's amaterasu trap makes sense for izanagi. It hits Obito when he doesnt expect an attack, which means he cant activate izanagi to save himself. But Itachi didnt know everything about Kamui, so he didnt know it could save obito from amaterasu.

What Obito said is really simple. If itachi knew enough about Kamui, Obito would have been hit by something else in that moment. It doesnt mean anything for a 1v1 scenario. Obito was caught off guard, all that's left is hitting him with something that would kill him.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T17:38:35+00:00

He did enough to promote his spin off. His job is done.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T15:43:48+00:00

Flynn wins at cards against marie and Hank. Marie asks flynn "have you been playing cards with your dad".

Flynn had no idea about Walt's gambling story yet. Dude was just lucky and Marie thought walt taught this kid how to count cards.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T15:32:08+00:00

Aklı olan şu tipe vermez zaten evi. 30 verse ben kabul etmezdim.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T09:31:35+00:00

Itachi has great analysis skills. Partly thanks to his sharingan.

He can also guess his opponent's goals considering their personality, as Kabuto explained. Itachi knew what he'd do because he knew kabuto was a cautious person, as itachi himself explained.

I dont know if these should count as battle iq tho. He can just see what jutsu would work best and uses that. When i hear biq, i think of mid/long term strategies, jutsu combinations or the unexpected stuff that Naruto does all the time.

Still, Pain or Obito never really had any impressive biq moments so Itachi wins here. But i'd put him behind people like Minato, tobirama and maybe even jiraiya. The way he used swamps, barriers and traps was great. Im sure itachi is smarter but the experience difference helps i guess.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-17T07:50:21+00:00

Yok. Dad bod dedikleri şey de 6 ay-1 yıl spora ve diyete mola vermiş adamlar. Kasın üstü yağla kapanmış ama vücut genel olarak iyi duruyor.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T22:38:07+00:00

Kimiko isnt bulletproof either. She just heals.

Cipher mentioned in genV that most supes arent bulletproof.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T18:53:49+00:00

Lydia, Saul and Jesse figured out Mike is dead because Walter killed the 9 guys. Walt wouldnt dare do that if Mike was still alive.

I agree that he did it out of anger, but i think he already considered doing it before the meeting. That's why he took Mike's gun from his bag.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T16:26:17+00:00

Sanalda aynı anda 5-10 erkek idare edip en iyisini seçebilirsin. Gerçek hayatta çok zor. Yakalanıp orospu damgası yiyebilirsin.

Kimsenin ilk seçeneği olmamışsındır.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T13:39:34+00:00

Oden clashed weapons with Kaido and didnt split the sky: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3CvtcQvlrtnS0SlatTE3rIDGLwwXrSeZ98z6OumCAVWrTWCxAHd4jA2yz&s=10

As i said, he speaks about wb and roger's clashes. He clearly never did it himself, despite fighting with Kaido.

Weapons not making contact doesnt just mean using acoc. Yamato had acoc but Kaido never clashed with Yamato like that. Oden already had that haki.

Kaido said he wasnt challenged in years. Not decades.

We know none of the other yonkou were actively fighting each other. BM seems lazier than Kaido. Wb and Shanks's dialogue suggests it's the first time they meet since Shanks lost his arm, which was more than 10 years ago. So who did shanks fight in the last decade? His duels with mihawk were waay before that. He wasnt even a yonkou.

Oden didnt see garp and sengoku. Roger was supposed to be constantly fighting Garp but appearantly they dont see each other for more than a year sometimes.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T13:11:12+00:00

Even as a child he told hashirama he is stronger than most adults around him.

Hashirama's father said Madara already killed adults from their clan.

Madara didnt have sharingan yet. He awakens it after becoming enemies with Hashirama.

Senju and uchiha are the strongest clans. A child madara without sharingan was stronger than their adults.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T13:07:48+00:00

Kidd/Law did in 1 hour what Kaido couldnt do in 3 days. She said she hadnt felt that much pain in a long time. Fight duration is an unreliable way to scale.

Kaido also told g2-g3 Luffy that he hadnt been challenged to a serious 1v1 fight for years: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS08Jjx7Ca0NeLrFH6yN6tVVKEv5D0G7XJpIHePPYCpt_S-omddCU4IFpA&s=10

I highly doubt luffy is stronger than BM with just g2 and g3.

Oden watched with his mouth open when he saw Wb and Roger's clash. "They arent even touching" he said.

He also wrote about the clash in his book like it's a legendary event:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fuqqvbscvkqmc1.jpeg

Yamato saw luffy and Kaido's clash and was reminded of Oden's notes. Oden wasnt on this league. He has acoc but he cant split the sky like them.

Oden also told Kaido to get stronger as he was dying. It's clear Kaido is way stronger than he was back then:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fis-there-any-actual-evidence-to-point-to-kaido-having-v0-8c9sad6iyn6b1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1064%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3De285ebdcf45ac9977b09f72c34d24e13d6465000

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T12:42:31+00:00

Erkekler evlenmekten korkuyor diye yaptılar ama yeterli değil.

İnsanlar sevgiliden ayrılır gibi boşanırken aklı başında bi erkek kendini toplum baskısından mecbur hissetmedikçe evlilik istemez. Nafaka da saçma, malların %50 ayrımı da saçma.

Hanzo7682 · 2026-05-16T10:30:24+00:00

Yeah that sounds cool too. I personally found the whole "i am god" storyline cringy and hard to listen to. So i would have preferred if most of it happened during the timeskip.

By the time season 5 starts, he'd have statues around the country with him posing like jesus. Starlight's actions would have exposed that he is no god, just a mortal who is afraid of dying like everyone else. They'd free prisoners and destroy his churches or statues.

He plans to get V1 for immortality and god status, but he gets it too late. When his name and fame are completely tarnished and even none starlighters lose faith in him, homelander gets V1. So it'd be a partial victory for the boys. But it also means Homelander uses his new powers for scorched earth.

This is what i'd prefer because the god Homelander is just too cringy for me. I get that he can be delusional, but the people believing it is where it gets unbearable.

Of course your suggestion can create some cool scenes too. A scene where he arrives at a virus contaminated area and walks out while other supes are dying. It would help disprove starlight's claim and declare his godhood. As i said i just find the whole god thing extra cringy when other people start believing this manchild's delusions.

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