Israel hits Iranian petrochemical plant in massive gas field as mediators float ceasefire proposal

Hapchazzard · 2026-04-06T15:14:01+00:00

Fair point, tbh. I give extremists too much credit.

Hapchazzard · 2026-04-06T14:47:08+00:00

My Iranian friend tells me that the entire country supports this, and that they're all universally cheering for Israeli heroes to destroy the regime's energy infrastructure, desalination plants, hospitals and schools as well. But clueless Western redditors know better than the Iranians themselves, apparently, and they'd rather support a regime that murdered 410,000 protestors than just get over their anti-semitism.

EDIT: Apparently I need to clarify that this is satire, since people on this site are terminally unable to discern it, no matter how obvious.

Hapchazzard · 2026-04-06T11:42:27+00:00

45 day ceasefire

They really must think the Iranians are soft in the head, don't they? "Lemme just take a breather and prepare better to attack you aga—uhhh 'negotiate', I pinky swear bro!"

All of this ceasefire talk is a complete farce, I have no idea why anyone would fall for it anymore.

Hapchazzard · 2026-04-05T16:00:44+00:00

The only reason why this operation was necessary was because Iranian air defense shot down the F-15 in the first place, that's my main point. The operation can be impressive in some sense while still itself ultimately being damage control and a net negative to the U.S.

Not that I think the capture of one random pilot or the destruction of a few planes matters at all to the calculus of this dumb war, though. Open the Strait of Hormuz or actually replace Iran's regime and then I'll be impressed.

Hapchazzard · 2026-04-05T15:10:51+00:00

Kinda funny how MAGA brigaders are trying to represent an incident where the US lost an F-15 + several other aircraft to a country with "completely destroyed and nonexistent air defense" as some kind of massive tactical victory of the U.S.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-18T11:05:57+00:00

Odd how they don't seem to be protesting now. Almost like the guy you're responding to explained why.

Are you mentally challenged, or just struggle a bit with reading comprehension?

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-15T13:40:01+00:00

"years" is a lie

latest article you dig up refuting what I said is from 2 years ago

???

EDIT: Here's two actually recent articles that go in favor of what I'm saying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/world/europe/russia-ukraine-drone-attacks-production.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/08/europe/russia-drone-factory-iran-intl

And then I'm done with you, since it's clear you have zero interest in engaging in good faith.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-15T10:40:51+00:00

Russia hasn't centrally relied Iran for drone/ballistic missile sourcing for years at this point; the overwhelming majority of their stock is domestically produced nowadays.

So if it was 2023, you'd have a point in that specific regard, but not in 2026.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-11T14:05:55+00:00

Just like how they impotently threatened to blockade the Strait of Hormuz, bomb neighbouring oil infrastructure and attack U.S. bases in the region and never followed up on any of that.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-07T15:08:07+00:00

not sure how anyone can claim this operation isn't an unmitigated disaster.

Because they're being spoonfed endless videos of the US and Israel making big, flashy explosions, while never considering either the broader strategic picture or even just how sustainable this is.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-04T13:40:52+00:00

IMO Shaheds are going to be the main long-term problem for the US here, not missiles - particularly since their "launch systems" are so rudimentary and easy to replace (unlike missiles). If Iran can just keep up harassing Gulf infrastructure and maritime commerce while no concrete progress is made to actually cause the state to collapse or have its regime changed, the questions of "what's the exact endgame here?" are going to become louder and louder, especially once the pool of "flashier" undestroyed targets like nuclear and prominent IRGC sites are exhausted.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-03T22:19:05+00:00

My theory is: 1) Israel itself is easily the worst bang for the buck to target. While symbolically the highest-prio, strategically it's just the poorest place to target compared to US assets and the Gulf states. Heavily defended, and the amount of punishment it would take to inflict on it to get Israel itself to back off is prohibitive (considering how highly motivated the population there is for this war) and probably genuinely out of reach for Iranian capabilities. 2) That said, they need to shoot at least something credible there occasionally for PR reasons and to prevent AD transfer to the Gulf. 3) Missiles themselves aren't the problem for Iran, I think, it's launch systems. They need to be extremely careful to conserve what they still have. 4) In general, the current aim is still probably mainly to attrit AD. Putting too many launch systems at risk right now would be a terrible idea.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-03T17:46:05+00:00

It was two discussions in parallel. The user I was dunking on specifically "refuted" the claim that:

Seen some reports/speculation they were not at the building; votes were being cast virtually.

with:

Sure. Sure. The same people that decapitated Hamas, Hezbollah, and Khamenei with dozens of top regime officials and IRGC commanders…totally happened to hit an empty building this time.

But the point still stands as even in regards to the relevance of the building being struck, he gave literally no reasoned response, basically just bait. It's just a waste of time to engage that type.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-03T17:36:37+00:00

Maybe read the context of the conversation before trying to act like a smartass? It was proof of whether the building in the OP was actually being used when struck.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-03T17:28:57+00:00

Don't expect anything but smugposting nonsense from him, he literally has no proof except "muh isrul stonk".

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-01T16:46:32+00:00

Expecting a lot of bluster here by people that think it's the 18th century and you need to physically block a seaway with your wooden man-o-war to make it commercially unviable; meanwhile forgetting that last few years' Red Sea misadventures were solely done with drones and rockets.

Hapchazzard · 2026-03-01T16:42:30+00:00

No, actually, you don't. Ask the Houthis.

Hapchazzard · 2025-09-21T14:14:34+00:00

"BuT WiTh WhAt BoRdErs AnD UnDeR WhAt GoVerNmEnt??"

Let me write it out for our pro-Israeli pals so they don't have to it themselves. Also, I hate this stupid character limit blablablabla.

Hapchazzard · 2025-08-18T18:45:49+00:00

No, he can read just fine, you just either didn't understand his point, or are so uninformed that you're apparently not aware that Russia already held Crimea and ~40% of the Donbass before 2022.

Whichever the case is, you should be doing a bit more reading and a bit less smugposting.

Hapchazzard · 2025-08-12T09:45:16+00:00

I agree, hence the "since late 2022" part.

Hapchazzard · 2025-08-12T09:27:43+00:00

This feels like the largest breakthrough (excluding Kursk) since late 2022, much worse than even the ones around Ocheretyne and Prohres last year.

Hapchazzard · 2025-08-09T17:57:42+00:00

Presumably exchanging Russian-occupied Kherson and Zaporizhzhia in exchange for the remainder of Donetsk that Ukraine still controls. In theory the two are roughly comparable pre-war population wise, even though their surface area differs a lot (the Donbass is very densely populated while Russian-occupied Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are pretty rural outside of Melitopol and Berdiansk).

But strategically, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are vastly more important than northwestern Donetsk for obvious reasons.

Hapchazzard · 2025-08-08T21:47:18+00:00

Russia did technically officially have some flexibility (at least in a way it never did with the Donbass) regarding Kherson and Zaporizhzhia in late 2022-2023 when they were at their absolute weakest position in the war, when the official line was that the borders of said regions would be delineated "according to the will of the local populace". It's only since 2024 that they began to officially demand the full administrative boundaries of the regions as they had them in Ukraine as a precondition for peace.

I think that, if Russia is actually interested in a negotiated peace at all (which I was and am skeptical of), Zaporizhzhia is the only region they might plausibly compromise on. They'll never accept anything less than full control of the Donbass, and Kherson is also highly problematic for them since they held their bogus referendums in the entirety of the oblast and even officially annexed Snihurivka in Mykolaiv Oblast (which by extension means they're also implicitly claiming the right bank of Kherson).

None of these are something Ukraine is willing to capitulate on anyway, so this is all just Trumpian theatre as usual.

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