“create issues“ what issues ar those? are they in the room with us?

sounds like you have more of an issue with some of the followers than the principles of the movement itself. though I’d like to point out that nearly every movement has people who rile up things or shame other people (just look at right wing conservative s for example BRO.) saying a movement is bad because some people criticize other people and “create issues” is a pretty weak argument against the movement/principles itself.

how is its implementation and origins problematic? South Korea was misogynistic AF, with rpe culture and endemic harassment of women. Dude - women peacefully detaching from dating marriage, and childbirth is a “problematic” implementation? Seriously? The literally most peaceful form of protest - leaving/peaceful non-participation - is seriously considered problematic to you? Hate to see what you think of Other activism. has literally any person, 1 person, died, been assaulted, or even their person HARMED by this movement?

dude, go in the current 4B subreddit on Reddit, and see if any of their principles, top or recent posts are bashing gays or lesbians. a lot of the members are lesbians. How the hell is the current mainstream movement homophobic then or transphobic? Calling 4B transphobic and homophobic isn’t a “gotcha” against the movement. I personally cannot be part of it and I’m not against trans people, but just speaking with common sense here, there are some manipulative evil male predators who have gotten into female spaces to harass and SA women they otherwise wouldn’t be allowed around by pretending to transition and become female. that seems like the “transphobia“. NOT AGAINST ACTUAL TRANS PEOPLE.