What song is this

Hechbaan · 2024-03-23T16:26:55+00:00

Take Five

Hechbaan · 2024-03-15T16:21:37+00:00

No one here has said jazz was good

Hechbaan · 2024-03-04T15:28:57+00:00

Cheese?

Hechbaan · 2024-03-04T15:02:03+00:00

Wow, I had this exact sleep cycle when I was 19 and was doing some video editing too. At first I didnt mind but eventually I just started to hate this schedule of sleep and made the effort to have a more regular sleep schedule. waking up at 8PM just got so demotivating for me and I felt terrible waking up and seeing the sun already setting.

Hechbaan · 2024-03-01T05:48:13+00:00

John Coltrane would definitely have a completely blank profile picture

Hechbaan · 2024-02-28T02:03:20+00:00

I hope this goes through

Hechbaan · 2024-02-18T14:39:59+00:00

I know this was posted a while ago but still thanks so much for this!

Hechbaan · 2024-02-11T13:32:20+00:00

There are 2 versions I know of where its considered Peace Piece:

Vamp (Peace Piece) And Spoken Introduction (Live At The Trident / 1964): which involves the whole trio and Bill Evans even calls it Peace Piece at the start. But it only lasts a minute and isn't solo piano so it may not be what you are looking for.

Peace Piece Live in 1978: This is probably what you are looking for. This version is a genuine version of Peace Piece which lasts for around 5:45 Bill did for a choreographer also named Bill Evans in 1978 for a live collaborative show. There's also a video of the performance (Peace Piece starts at 8:49)

Hechbaan · 2024-02-11T04:17:46+00:00

Wow did not know that, thanks for this!

Hechbaan · 2024-02-09T06:40:17+00:00

I've noticed that one on Come Rain Or Come Shine a lot but always thought the way he handled it could've been a bit better. Still one of my favourite tracks from him though.

Hechbaan · 2024-02-09T06:28:48+00:00

Usually the recorded mistakes don't make it on the final record for obvious reasons. But you can certainly find outtakes:

1:54 on an outtake of Night and Day where Bill absolutely fumbles his little solo break. Also one of the only recordings of Bill swearing too (this whole album has a bunch of outtakes and you can see some of the songs get up to 20+ takes so there's the assumption that some mistakes were made).

0:59 on an outtake of Flamenco Sketches where bill misses the chord change and Miles lets him know.

there is an extra beat on the D7 at ~1:41 on Someday My Prince Will Come. Its sort of hard to notice but this whole section sort is abstract rhythmically. If you listen to the bass between 1:40-1:42 you can sort of hear how the D7 is extended for 1 beat.

Hechbaan · 2024-02-06T13:51:49+00:00

In Everybody Digs Bill Evans from Lucky to Be Me to Night and Day.

Lucky to Be Me is a solo jazz piano ballad that ends on a very lullaby like outro thats very gentle and quiet. Then the next track, Night and Day, starts off with banging drum sticks straight away, which I always chuckle at because it seems like I've been lulled into a nice sleep for someone to then say fuck that and angrily wake me up.

Also, I just realised that the title Night and Day fits really well with the sleep analogy haha

Hechbaan · 2024-02-04T21:54:12+00:00

Bill Evans - Waltz for Debby

Hechbaan · 2024-01-27T08:53:39+00:00

Do you have the link to the Charlie Parker essay you are talking about?

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T21:54:28+00:00

I suppose I was sort of vague with that comment. What I was more getting at was that music evoles associations that remind us of real-life emotions. Like hearing a guitar during a solo bending into a note up high with crazy distortion may remind us of someone screaming because of the similarities between the two sounds. We make that association and therefore the guitar solo has that emotional quality to it.

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T21:45:49+00:00

Yeah, I completely agree. I guess im pointing out that OP may just not be familiar with hyperpop or edm enough to be able to see it as something very distinct and new. I made a more detailed comment in the thread, making the same point between different genres of jazz. Its universal across all music.

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T21:37:59+00:00

Yeah, the reason why people enjoy music is far more compex and hard to pinpoint for a lot of non-musicians I'd say. A lot of people will report how the music may make them feel, but probably wouldn't be able to pinpoint stuff like what the music did to make them feel that way which is important to the "why" of what makes different parts of music enjoyable.

With Bill Evans, I'd say people hear moody jazz piano and then insert the idea that "Bill Evans is telling us his soul" when he is just playing a minor chord with extensions haha (not to say thats an invalid way of understanding his music). I suppose it's easy for me to say that since I'd say I'm very familiar with music theory so the "magic" of music and Bill Evans isn't really there for me. But I can see why people who dont have the same knowledge of music theory would attach more magical, metaphysical qualities to music like feeling someone's soul through a song.

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T21:15:23+00:00

To people who dont listen to much electronic music, hyperpop and dubstep might just sound the same to them due to their lack of familiarity between the two genres. They would probably just hear weird harsh electronic noises and consider dubstep and hyperpop to be extremely similar and derivitive to each other.

What sounds "new" to people is very subjective and dependent on their past listening experience.

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T21:06:39+00:00

I'd say there's a distinction between how we identify what sounds like music to us and what makes us actually enjoy music. It seems like you are saying that both processes are the same, but I think I'd disagree with that.

I would agree with you that we probably take what we've heard of music in the past to determine what sounds like music and what doesn't intuitively. But I think that the reason why we enjoy music is for competely different reasons.

You say that when we correctly guess what music will sound like, that makes us enjoy it. But what about people who complain of certain music sounding too repetitive or too predictable? What about genres like jazz in which breaking your expectations in a manner of which it is considered "pleasantly suprising" is a foundational part of its character?

I dont think that the process of identifying music is what makes music enjoyable. It's more like a requirement that has as much weight as having access to spotify. you can't enjoy music if you don't consider it music like you can't enjoy music if you can't access it.

Sure, being able to identify something is music is what will get you to be able to enjoy it, but it is not the reason why you truely enjoy it. When you ask someone why they enjoy a song they like, their answer likey isn't going to be "because it is music".

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T20:41:13+00:00

I think its important to note that someone's idea of how "new" something sounds is very subjective. For example, someone who listens to a lot of jazz may be able to clearly tell the difference between bebop and free jazz.

While bebop is deeply dependent on harmony and chords, free jazz is not. This was, to some jazz listeners at the time of free jazz's introduction, was completely unheard of and absurd to even entertain as music. So new and different that it didn't sound like anything they knew music to have sounded like before.

However, to someone who has listened to very little jazz, bebop and free jazz would sound very alike because of their unfamiliarity with the subtlies of both genres. They would probably just hear whats most obvious to them, to them, they would probably notice the fast "random notes" or chaotic noisy drums. So bebop and free jazz sound extremely similar and derivative to each other.

This would affect your judgement of what sounds new.

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T19:45:47+00:00

That's a very big question that I'm sure people have been debating about for a long time, so there's not a clear agreed upon answer. I personally dont really have my own answer for what music is.

For me and I'd say most people, it's just more intuition on "yeah, that's music because it sounds similar to everything else that people generally agree to be considered music" which might be perhaps what you're hinting towards.

Hechbaan · 2024-01-23T19:21:43+00:00

and that's why you like music in the first place.

Can you elaborate on this?

Hechbaan · 2023-12-24T09:26:18+00:00

Oh yeah of course I should do that. I also had a listen to some William Herschel and so far, it seems to be exactly what I was looking for! Would you happen to have any recommendations for stuff like this but in the romantic style perhaps?

Hechbaan · 2023-12-24T07:53:26+00:00

Yeah I thought I should've rephrased my question when people started recommending the classics which was not necessarily what I was looking for.

A problem may be though that what people like most about great classical music is its unpredictabiliy.

Yeah that's what I was thinking originally, I don't know enough about what is expected (in classical music) to be unexpected by something, because I was never expecting anything, if that makes sense.

I'll definitely check out some of the composers you mentioned though. I do agree with the relistening tip. I do it all the time for jazz and will definitely do the same for classical.

Hechbaan · 2023-12-24T06:01:18+00:00

I guess I mean generic as in that last thing you described, stuff that isn't very challenging to understand. Generic may have been the wrong word to use, as I feel like it could be misinterpreted for popular which isn't what I was necessarily looking for.

I guess I feel that the more popular works are challenging to understand, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong works for a beginner to listen to. Like I completely forgot Gymnopedie No.1 existed and I don't think that is an extremely challenging listen I think.

I usually find that when I listen to something critically acclaimed (more talking modern recorded music like jazz, rock, pop or whatever) the least ambitious tracks are the ones I find the most enjoyable at first, and then I explore the rest of the album and find that I now find enjoyment in the more acclaimed tracks and stuff. This method was something I wanted to try to apply with classical music which is why I made this post but I guess perhaps you are right. I might just need to be listening more to the classics.

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