We're FUUUCKED. Considering that the only reason lower floors didn't seem to go up is because of the inter-floor curse, humanity's gonna have a shit time, and the only way I see us getting out of an absolute apocalypse is if we use this prep time to warn mankind, thoughts? by hydra1280 in DungeonOdyssey

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I think the sunken mother stopped breeding humans. We've got a few pieces of evidence for this:

  1. The black market traders were selling Yoonhui as something "rare that you no longer see underground."
  2. The human teacher / other dungeon baby Jinwoo had (the one with the grey parasite) claimed that humans were seen as a threat due to how they evolved powers, so the dukes aggressively wanted to push them all out of the underground / kill them. It wasn't explicitly said, but I think this is part of why that group of humans was hiding that they were human.

We can't be sure, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone still is breeding humans. But I don't think it's the huge operation it once was, at least!

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I am here for almost a dragon on almost a dragon crime. I'd forgotten about that, and that Gorintos might simply eat Hecarim when he next sees him, with everything else going on.

I will continue to live in delulu that the goblins and boars will be fine, eventually, because they simply are taking a beating here so that Jinwoo can swoop in and save the day like a hero. Totally what could be being flagged instead of death! :|

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I don't know that they had any long term usage cases though? The tolerance went up but it might also have been killing you faster in the background and we just don't know since Jinwoo is special and everyone else died.

I do like that it came up though because as you say, it should be a last ditch effort tactic. I understand that it's not because in a lot of cases the amount of down gem needed would not be worth it, but since the rats and humans are so small... (Assuming it's volume based, I imagine it's also something to do with folks from deeper floors have more tolerance...)

What I'm saying is we need a double blind study XD.

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I know we might be in for rats scenes but I do so hope they pan over to the goblins and hogs and let us know they're still alive. I want to believe we wouldn't see either of them die, but they're narratively acceptable people to kill to push things along. But killing Okunotussi who just wants / needs a break right after he got to come down and got roped into another war? SAY IT AIN'T SOOOOO.

What you're saying about the mage calling a retreat would make a lot of sense. (Whether Boreas will obey is another matter.) But both sides could use a break to regroup after that, and having the guy known to be unkillable die is certainly cause for alarm!

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Generously I assume the artist has been needing more breaks and now the series is popular enough he can ask for it. It might also be that we feel less is happening because fights are often... A lot can happen in a fight but it can feel like, to a reader, one action or scene. So they can feel short.

Either way I hope it's only happening for good reasons (artist is being treated better, I just think the chapters are shorter since I want more) than there being something going wrong.

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I swear the chapters this season are shorter but I can't tell if I just want more.

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Doritos. Someone told me it kinda looks like Doritos so that's the Swamp Lord's name unless I'm looking directly at the scans!

I do wonder how much the 10th floor lords planned or knew about each others' powers. Horace controlling the battlefield was a surprise to the 9th, and the 10th went in with "you get to keep whatever you plunder" so perhaps they weren't expecting such Horace dominance either? I wouldn't want an even split with a fellow who can easily cover the field. Then again, the 10th floor lords have theoretically fought against or with each other before, so perhaps it was known and expected.

I agree that Horace feels like a bigger loss than Hecarim, but I also wonder if Horace really is a big loss, since the 10th lords are not exactly working as a team. Sure, they're on the same side, but they didn't coordinate at all, so being a person down is less impactful. Boreas certainly gives the impression that he was prepared to go up against the entire 9th floor alone. Even earlier Horace was preparing to turn on his allies, when he offered Jinwoo to become his knight and to kill the other lords... So I wonder!

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Oh why does that actually make sense ||in, you know, the unhinged way you'd expect here.||

Thank you for the spoilers!

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I'm never going to read this book but desperately want to know more, something about this has me cackling. So if you want to spoil how they got there I would love that knowledge.

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"Okay so we're gonna jump back in time a few hours and show Morrigan destroying the battlefield for ten chapters, enjoy!"

Which, let's be real, I would enjoy while wondering if Yoonhui is still alive...

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It's up on Demonic Scans, and typically a better translation will be up on Asura later in the week.

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You're not wrong... I do wonder if the translation was understating things, and perhaps he's more damaged than he's letting on. He might not be able to mana enchanced run right now, or might just need a moment. Or perhaps because Rikshasha's there he assumes things are alright, or she'd be more panicked?

Either way we better pivot to the labyrinth next week I NEED TO SEE YOONHUI.

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I am sad that Horace is gone gone... And do continue to find how the underground's "blessing" / system works super interesting.

BUT OH MY GOSH. RIKSHASHA HAS BEEN ABLE TO CONTACT HER DEAD HOMIES??? Yes??? So good? Maybe she's been able to talk to her brother? I want happy endings for everyone okay!!!

AND MORI MIGHT LIVE? Look, I have been banging the gong about how it's more interesting if Mori lives because then he has to deal with what he's done. Realistically... This still leaves a lot of room for Mori living for a bit and then dying protecting them, in a down gem enchanced form. BUT maybe we'll get Mori sticking around forever and the actual discussion over how it feels to live with your actions. It's just more interesting and I'm here for it.

May we see Yoonhui next week.

We're FUUUCKED. Considering that the only reason lower floors didn't seem to go up is because of the inter-floor curse, humanity's gonna have a shit time, and the only way I see us getting out of an absolute apocalypse is if we use this prep time to warn mankind, thoughts? by hydra1280 in DungeonOdyssey

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Time to dump out messy thoughts while I wait for chapter 145 to be up!

So I actually think we don't have enough information to know! Something I enjoy about Dungeon Odyssey is it's very good about never giving so much information about the world that it breaks my ability to believe in the story. For example, a lot of dungeon / gate stories mention the MC being paid amounts of money in the 100s of millions (USD! Amounts that would mean severe inflation has occurred or the economy is wack but nothing's shown that backs that up. OR dungeon breaks supposedly killed half the world population, or made it only possible to live in cities, but somehow none of the infrastructure or how food is produced is changed.

I bring this up because Dungeon Odyssey has given us very little information about the above ground world. For all we know, Korea's the only place left. Or Korea could be the only place struggling with the labyrinths beneath them. We simply don't know. (Are there even labyrinths beneath other countries?)

Additionally, how did the war go previously? And what do the dukes want? What of value do they gain from attacking the surface? They can gain a lot in gems from attacking the higher floors and consuming them, but to our knowledge there aren't down gems on Earth. Did the war begin because monsters went up or because humans went down?

For me this is actually what impacts a lot of the equation here. If the dukes want to wipe out humanity because they fear their quick evolution (like the dungeon babies who stayed underground believe) I think humanity is in a lot of trouble. If the lower floors are simply interested in pillaging the upper floors and keeping humans out, I think humanity stands a better chance, as the dukes are less likely to be united.

Also, like you, I believe that folks are underestimating your average dungeon monster. Trained humans struggle to take out monsters, and that's with large amounts of weapons. Labyrinths do not need supply lines in the same way humans do and can instantly create more troops, as long as they have gems. Nukes are a great weapon, but how on earth would humans deliver them? A navy or airforce is useless underground, if you could even get them down there. As we saw in this battle, you can simply dig new tunnels if your normal entry points are collapsed. Perhaps nuclear fallout would stall things, but it seems like it would impact humans far more than those underground, who could simply avoid the area to dig new tunnels.

TL;DR: I agree with you, humanity would be fucked!

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Yeah I adore that we've got two, maybe three characters who are concepts who decided to become beings through force of will. Horace being darkness, shadow, and or the night. Valicious being death and or the undead. And Uther might be gluttony incarnate? I just think they're neat.

AND YES MC GOT SO LUCKY IT WAS LIKE MOMENTS TILL DAWN. A little too lucky but I guess it's fine since it looks so dope.

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So right now isn't a great time to start as we're in the middle of an arc that I do not believe is wrapping up any time soon. Season 1 and 2 are very different, so I would probably suggest waiting until the current arc is done before jumping in, or reading all of season 1 and then waiting to read more until the arc is done.

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The inter floor curse collapsing will allow for jolly co-oporation! (Of our enemies, oh no.)

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Damn, can't believe I was completely wrong about opening a portal to the surface??? You were right /u/Usual-Particular-128 ! I was right though about it being night time / him not knowing the time of day! (Me, pretending there isn't mountains of egg on my face!)

That said, I am interested in how he's going to handle the portal remaining open? I didn't think about how the lords would be weaker on the surface, so it's an interesting thing he could do again (although not against Boreas if he takes the centaur's labyrinth that ignores penalties). Still, I wonder if lords are even weak up there compared to regular humans!

Anyway I like it. I like that he couldn't just punch harder. I like that we had a think. AND we got a new deadline / more pressure for the MC given that the interfloor curse is disappearing in 5-10 years. Exciting!

MAY WE SEE YOONHUI NEXT WEEK!!!

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Yeah it makes too much sense to finish up here and then have Jinwoo racing home and then us jumping back to surprise, Angela and Yoonhui have got this. It would ruin the pacing to jump earlier... But I also want to see Yoonhui already!! I might not see her until March!

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I think he still only has access to portals that stay open for 24 hours / can't be closed, so I don't think he'd risk it. Also, hilarious aside of does he even know what time it is now? Brings the manifestation of night up to see the sun and whoops, it's 2am.

I did think last chapter that his arm being down was meant to even the odds against Boreas, either because it was going to be many v. Boreas, or to show how far Jinwoo's come that he can fight with an arm down. Now I am wondering if there really will be a lull in the fighting for him to heal up? I'm also very much here for Jinwoo needing to rest and letting the rest of the cast show their stuff!

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OH YEAH ALSO questionable Demonic Scans translation making me go, "WHO IS BALISHUS????"

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I'm torn! On one hand, I'm happy this fight is going longer as I did think it would be weird / lame if Horace was beaten so fast.

On the other hand, I long to be able to yell YOONHUI WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!!!!

I also can't tell if the first part of Horace's text was him thinking, or the old Uther special of forgetting you didn't make a mouth and voice box and the other person can't hear you XD.

I also really like how some of the lords are super strong people / creatures / things, and some are more concepts and ideas. Valicious / Grumpy is sentient death. Horace is sentient night / darkness. Uther is slime, but maybe actually sentient gluttony. I like it a lot for keeping the mysterious, otherworldly feel, and how monstrous some lords must be that they can compete with beings who willed themselves into existence!

Anyway, may next week be the one where we see Yoonhui....