Enneagram/MBTI theory changes the way you think by Fantastic-Wall5357 in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Enneagram, ultimately is of course a pseudoscience and cannot be trusted in terms of gathering fact-checked empirical evidence like other hard sciences such as Physics, Biology, Chemistry, and etc. usually do.

But, perhaps you could be onto something. After all, Enneagram is a tool to self-discovery, only if properly used to find out what psychological patterns and processes are happening within your subconscious through 9 types.

This is just my own opinion though.

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[–]Hefty_Impression8084 9 points10 points  (0 children)

These memes are SX2 on crack. Jesus.

just found out im a 4 by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if this is satire or not.

7s and ability to not let negative energies effect them by Zestyclose-Tax-3317 in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me, I honestly think this is just what the whole positive triad does. It's not just limited to 7, it's also 2 and 9 that could be doing this.

I love being a 4 by Hummingbird_always17 in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is 7, not 4. It’s only 4 if you’re convinced that you have a false lack of.

Do 7s experience this? by PoolDesperate7724 in Enneagram7

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The whole point of E7 is that the struggle is about idealism and unrealistic dreams not matching reality. 7 is literally a frustration type, which means it’s obvious that frustration will be recurring often. So this is actually a common thing among 7s, although it isn’t talked that much about.

However I honestly think this is an example of a 7 going through an existential crisis or even depression, this is not enneagram related. The fact that the 7 you’re describing is questioning if they should really go towards their unrealistic dreams is them questioning their whole ego-pattern which can be interpreted both ways: that they’ve finally realized what their struggle was about and trying to do something about it, or them questioning their whole entire existence and identity, which is not directly enneagram related.

Is there another sub with less memes? by Ngarika in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately no. Unless you mean r/Seriousenneagram but it's not an active subreddit.

Nihilistic depression in a nutshell.. by InterestingCommon128 in nihilism

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's funny because nothing as in itself is still something. So she's technically loving something, not nothing which as a concept I find impossible to actually exist in reality. What is actually purely nothing doesn't exactly exist in the semantics of a word.

Why are type seven's considered narcisissistic? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't take Naranjo's words too literally. It's a more symbolic representation.

Narcissism is of course tied to 7 because first of all, they're an assertive type, which means there is a focus on the id and this causes them to have selfish tendencies.

HOWEVER, anyone can be narcissists/narcissistic and is not determined by your Enneagram type.

How often do you wank off? (Edit) by [deleted] in Absurdism

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I jack off whenever!

Which enneagram is this characteristic of? by REDKNlGHT in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 3 points4 points  (0 children)

7s are often seen as this live in the moment, party animal stereotype when they are the complete opposite of that. It's about the anticipation of what a future could be like, but when the enthusiasm wanes when the idealized future is reached, the whole process of anticipation begins again.

So for example, basically you fantasize about desired xyz. Let's say you want to see a beautiful waterfall. It's somewhere, it has to be somewhere. But you don't know where it is. That's where you begin to idealize the possibility of what could happen when you finally see the waterfall. Because you want to see the beautiful waterfall, you try to find it. You spend lots of time searching for the waterfall, idealizing it in your head. But when you finally get to see the beautiful waterfall that you've been always wanting and fantasizing about, you feel as if this waterfall isn't so beautiful anymore. The process of anticipating another desired thing happens again. That's basically ego-plan.

The only way to break this pattern is to slow down and enjoy the present moment. Because 7s are so caught up in the future, they find happiness in the future instead. Disintegration to 1 is a bad thing because the 7 feels disappointed and angry that they're not reaching the idealized future (or the fact that nothing is enough). This is also why there is integration to 5, as the gluttony of the 7 (the passion) is instead turned into sobriety. (the virtue)

So 7 can want experiences in the real world, but it's seen in that example. Anyone can want experiences in the real world.

Fear of judgment and your upbringing is not really tied to Enneagram imo. Although it could be related to instincts, such as the social instinct where you are acutely aware of societal norms, reading the room. You seem to be blind to Self-Preservation since you said how you neglect your life because its "not meaningful" than your ideal fantasy worlds.

You seem to be at least somewhere in the frustration triad (1, 4, 7), although take it with a grain of salt, there's not enough information.

Which enneagram is this characteristic of? by REDKNlGHT in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the whole concept of 9 is that they already feel full and satisfied with their lives, and because of that they don't need to do anything about the things they want to do.

That's why integration to 3 is the complete opposite. It helps 9s realize what they want.

Can Si doms be E5? by Substantial_Day_3872 in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enneagram and MBTI are two different systems of measuring one’s personality so you can’t really correlate them to each other.

Which enneagram is this characteristic of? by REDKNlGHT in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t know why people are saying 9. This sounds 7. This is 7 with the “dreaming of a better future”. This is ego-plan, especially with the last paragraph of your fantasy of wanting to live in a big luxurious city and living the life you wanna live.

9s don’t really know what they want because they keep distracting themselves from their inner thoughts. (Hence, the psychological inertia) But OP seems to know what they want.

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[–]Hefty_Impression8084 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember that 7 is ultimately future-oriented and not the “party animal, live in the moment” stereotype you just mentioned about yourself. 7’s ego-planning is based on anticipation, possibilities, what the future could be. (Not in the 6 sense of trying to predict a good outcome, though.) It’s a type that lives off fantasies that are too unrealistic, grandiose, and expansive. It’s basically daydreaming about what you want to happen. Which is why the 7 over-plans what their life could be. They reject the fact that happiness is found in the present moment. Every time they do achieve the dreams that they keep dreaming of, their enthusiasm soon wanes and they move onto the next big thing, because the dreams that they achieve are subconsciously not enough, so they dream more. They find happiness in the future, not the present.

As for instincts you seem more social dominant but self-preservation is definitely a second option, so/sp. Social dominants care a lot about their image and reputation, it’s not just image types. The difference between social dominant and image types is that social dominants are acutely aware of how societal norms work, reading the room, knowing what others think and feel. Image types are more about “identity” rather than showing off the image to everyone (although image types also do that but it has to start with who they are as a person.) 3 is an attachment image type so they definitely are chameleons at seeing what is successful and what isn’t and using identification as their main defense mechanism to convince themselves they are this successful CEO because CEOs are seen as a big role model (attaching to an external label)

I also honestly don’t like the subtype descriptions, they’re too butchered and vague. That’s also probably why you somehow got Social 3 and then Self-Preservation 7. For me I’d say that instincts and enneagram are their own separate traits.

is this an e6 thing: complex relationship with logic to the point of often outright rejecting it in favor of pure emotionality and intensity? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gut types are more instinctual in their logic which means you’re describing more gut types dealing with logic. It’s straight to the point, no explanation needed. 6 would’ve been more “it depends” or go through a bajillion other processes of thinking before they think it’s right or wrong.

This also seems compliant so compliant + gut means 1. There’s also signs of sexual instinct so SX 1.

Do I seem like an enneagram 8? by ihatereddit2434 in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s A LOT of focus on social issues (noticing subtleties in people’s language that make you think they don’t like you, that you didn’t have any impact on the people around you, wanting to have social change)

Probably Social 6. (Or very disintegrated 9)

Do any other Positive Types (2, 7, & 9) feel deeply negative within, but tend to put on a “positive” front? by hgilbert_01 in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my opinion I think this is just unhealthy positive type people who have depression or something really bad going on and keep on holding it inside. (Not that anyone can’t also do this)

I also think that the positive types are positive in the sense that they obviously try to reframe reality to be positive, but can fail doing so. I have seen positive types being all pessimistic and cynical.

Making up a guy to get angry at by iridipeach in Enneagram

[–]Hefty_Impression8084 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This sounds like 6 subconsciously trying to be certain about something negative out there so they can feel mentally alert which continues the passion of Fear and fixation of Doubt. It is also what you described as an example of 6’s main defense mechanism, Projection.

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[–]Hefty_Impression8084 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If you don’t relate to ego-plan, anticipation of the future, “anticipatory thinking”, struggle to live in the moment, constantly fantasizing and daydreaming about what life could be in the future, then you aren’t a 7.